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New NSA Chief Michael Rogers: Agency Has Lost Americans' Trust
Politico ^ | 4-30-14 | Shaun Waterman

Posted on 05/01/2014 6:55:43 AM PDT by Flame Retardant

The NSA has lost the trust of the American people as a result of the Edward Snowden leaks, and needs to be more transparent to gain it back, the NSA's new director said Wednesday in his first public comments since taking control of the embattled spy agency.

"I tell the [NSA] workforce out there as the new guy, let’s be honest with each other, the nation has lost a measure of trust in us," Admiral Michael Rogers told a conference of the Women in Aerospace conference in Crystal City, Va....

Rogers didn't lay complete responsibility at the doorstep of the NSA: He blamed public mistrust on the way the newsmedia had framed the issues raised in the Snowden revelations.

"From my perspective the debate and the dialogue to date have been very uneven," he said....

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bigbrother; nsa; surveillance; tyranny
The NSA has lost the trust of the American people

How many warrantless wiretaps did you need to figure that out, Sherlock?

He blamed public mistrust on the way the newsmedia had framed the issues raised in the Snowden revelations.

"Kill the messenger!"

1 posted on 05/01/2014 6:55:43 AM PDT by Flame Retardant
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To: Flame Retardant

No shi...er...no Obama, Sherlock.


2 posted on 05/01/2014 6:56:21 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Flame Retardant

Ya think??


3 posted on 05/01/2014 6:57:05 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Flame Retardant
The NSA has lost the trust of the American people as a result of the Edward Snowden leaks

What a marroon. The NSA lost our trust as a result of their SPYING on us.

4 posted on 05/01/2014 6:58:00 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Flame Retardant

Duh.

The NSA monitored Americans more than the Enemy;
and egregiously let the ENEMY kill in Boston
and elsewhere, over and over.


5 posted on 05/01/2014 6:59:02 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: Flame Retardant

Transparency is BS. It is passive and does nothing.
Reduce the size by 50% and rename it.
State what it may do and NOT do.
Give it no enforcement power.


6 posted on 05/01/2014 7:01:51 AM PDT by Rapscallion (Obama stands for the corruption of America in all aspects.)
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To: Flame Retardant

What trust?


7 posted on 05/01/2014 7:06:28 AM PDT by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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To: Flame Retardant

8 posted on 05/01/2014 7:11:29 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Only Liberals can look at an amendment that says “shall not be infringed" and see blank parchment.)
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To: Flame Retardant

The ONLY legitimate intelligence service is military intelligence.

The CIA should be gone.

The military should have its own intelligence sections.

They should report up to SecDef.

NOT directly to el Presidente.

Otherwise, the way things have ALWAYS been with CIA, we have an organization that is run amok.

CIA, to put it simply, has unfettered capability to create wars and revolutions.

It has NO accountability, ZERO oversight, because NO ONE can EVER get an honest answer from them about what they have going on.

It’s impossible because no one has independent access to anything inside CIA, everyone has to go through CIA to ask for internal CIA information, which allows CIA to filter what it provides access to.

Combine that with the fact that the leadership has always been hand-picked minions of elite finance, and you have corruption on the largest scale ever. The CIA is simply a tool for elite finance, masquerading as a legitimate agency.


9 posted on 05/01/2014 7:13:22 AM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: Flame Retardant

Well, duh.


10 posted on 05/01/2014 7:15:48 AM PDT by caligatrux (...some animals are more equal than others.)
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To: Flame Retardant

It’s not just the NSA that Americans have lost faith in,
It’s this whole damned federal gub mint.
Great job obammy ya Marxist mooselimb piece of crap


11 posted on 05/01/2014 7:16:12 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) obammy lied and lied and lied)
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To: Flame Retardant
“A little government and a little luck are necessary in life, but only a fool trusts either of them” P.J. O'Rourke
12 posted on 05/01/2014 7:16:25 AM PDT by CrazyIvan (Obama phones= Bread and circuits.)
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To: Flame Retardant

Look Dipsh8 Michael Rogers

NSA is the enemy


13 posted on 05/01/2014 7:24:16 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Flame Retardant

I think the entire Federal government has lost the trust of the American people. It simply exists to exist; it consumes our money, produces nothing, and represses anyone who dares point this out.


14 posted on 05/01/2014 7:30:15 AM PDT by henkster (Do I really need a sarcasm tag?)
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To: PieterCasparzen
The ONLY legitimate intelligence service is military intelligence. The CIA should be gone.

Let's go a step further. The Department of State should become a much smaller agency within the Department of Defense. Perhaps one Ambassador per country (some nations have an ambassador represent them in more than one country), just enough staff to handle visas and related issues, and enough armed military personnel to secure the embassies and consulates.

 If we're going to have an embassy or consulate in a place like Libya or Venezuela, there better be enough military stationed there to successfully launch a coup on a hostile government if attacked. Preferably, we have no diplomatic presence in regimes that are hostile to us. They're our enemies. Let them deal with our military if they decide to pick a fight.

The civil service aspect needs to be gone. If there isn't military experience, they should be disqualified from working for the State Department.

Let's also require every damn Ambassador to (a) have at least a B-2 proficiency in the language spoken in the country and (b) have extensive on-the-ground experience in that country before becoming ambassador.

The Ivy League sh#theads that infest the State Department work around the clock to undermine U.S. national security interests, spurning our allies, and performing Lewinskys on our enemies. It's time for that to end.

15 posted on 05/01/2014 7:32:48 AM PDT by peyton randolph (Show me the man and I will find the crime. - Lavrenti Beria)
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To: Flame Retardant

“lost” Americans’ trust?

No. The violated the hell out of it.


16 posted on 05/01/2014 7:33:34 AM PDT by MortMan (With friends like these, who is needing enemas?)
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To: Rapscallion

I agree with your fantastic solution, but it is fantastic.

Government will not lay off its own, only contractors. It is not in the business of going out of business. It is entrenched. Only incredible, almost unspeakable violence will change this.


17 posted on 05/01/2014 7:37:57 AM PDT by Blue Collar Christian (Vote Democrat. Once you're OK with killing babies the rest is easy. <BCC><)
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To: Flame Retardant
The NSA has lost the trust of the American people as a result of the Edward Snowden leaks

Don't blame the messenger, blame the game. You lost the trust because of what you did, Snowden only helped people learn about it. And, if you really want to fix it, start getting rid of these programs, and get the hell off of Americans without a warrant.
Also, I'd like to know what part of your job description isn't already covered by the FBI (internal), CIA (external), as well as military intel/Secret Service.
18 posted on 05/01/2014 7:40:37 AM PDT by Svartalfiar
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To: Diogenesis

Add the spying that private companies are doing on us to the mix. After a while its easy to get cynical about their real motives.


19 posted on 05/01/2014 7:44:20 AM PDT by crusher2013
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To: Flame Retardant

hmmm....let’s see, he’s going to blame the news media, when they in fact are likely the ones in possession of all the other juicy tidbits Snowden took which have not been released yet?

And this guy was deemed smart enough to be confirmed for the job?


20 posted on 05/01/2014 7:45:05 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Flame Retardant

A good way to regain trust is to prosecute those who spied on america. All of them. Put them in camps to be re-educated on the fundamentals of liberty and democracy. Only let them out when they pledge to be loyal to the Constitution and not ever participate in rogue bureaucracies that violate the law. That would include tens of thousands of employees at least. But they need to be held to account. They must never be trusted again.


21 posted on 05/01/2014 7:56:01 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: Flame Retardant

Oh, one more thing. Open all the files so Americans can see what their government is collecting on them. This is perhaps the most essential step in regaining trust.


22 posted on 05/01/2014 7:58:45 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: peyton randolph

Diplomacy and military are two different things.

If a government operates on a sem-legitimate basis at least, there’s problem. Those two things should naturally be separate.

But...

the government picks which nations get a full embassy, which get a diplomatic “outpost”, and which get no diplomats.

In order to have trade relations, cultural relations, etc., nations need to have diplomatic ties established.

Having a military-only presence is reserved for nations that are trouble spots, countries that are basically hostile. They don’t get no diplomatic mission.

Trouble is with Libya, all the stuff that was not reported by the news media.

So we think that Libya and Qadaffi was always a virulent anti-American hater.

Turns out, he was an old CIA employee, and he was well-accepted by the American old-money, elite finance, “eastern establishment”, etc., those Yale/Wall Street types, whose employers decide if and when there will be wars.

Turns out, when, let’s call him Q, decided that he wanted Libya out from under the central banking/dollar system, when it kept pushing the point, he had decided to make his own currency - actually - horrors - a regional African currency/banking regime... that’s when the financial elites ordered his rubout. Former employee needed to be wacked. And this was to include a message to all national leaders: this is what happens to our local bosses when they go against the family. When they start thinking they’re gonna make their own money. Everybody better get it: your using dollars ONLY, and you’re BUYING US government bonds, or other US government backed securities. You’re all part of the syndicate, you’re all gonna work with OUR money and OUR debt.

Anyone gets any ideas, they’re gettin’ what Q got. Got it ?


23 posted on 05/01/2014 8:00:38 AM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: Flame Retardant
The NSA has lost the trust of the American people as a result of the Edward Snowden leaks

In the year before Snowden only 0.003% of the one trillion phone calls made per year in the U.S. mentioned the NSA in a negative manner. After Snowden that number jumped to 0.2%.

24 posted on 05/01/2014 8:30:53 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Republican amnesty supporters don't care whether their own homes are called mansions or haciendas.)
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To: Flame Retardant
Some of us have never trusted these folks. We know better.
25 posted on 05/01/2014 9:48:40 AM PDT by zeugma (Don't cry because it's over, smile because it happened - Dr. Seuss (I'll see you again someday Hope))
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To: Flame Retardant

It’s like someone overdid the mind control bit with the guy...


26 posted on 05/01/2014 11:18:25 AM PDT by GOPJ
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To: Rapscallion
Reduce the size by 50% and rename it.

Not enough.
Indict all current agents with Conspiracy Against Rights & Deprivation of Rights Under Color of Law — then disband the agency… also look into indicting the judges in the FICA court and the Congress that authorized the operations / passed the law under which the NSA operated.

IOW, make them pay in blood for violating the Supreme Law of the Land.

27 posted on 05/01/2014 4:06:27 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Flame Retardant
Not to mention that it possibly killed the American IT cloud providers market.

Who wants to host their business data on servers that are compromised by the NSA when they can go to a European cloud server instead?

-PJ

28 posted on 05/01/2014 4:10:15 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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