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N4T Investigators: Rogue Mexican Army troops crossing the line
NBC4 Tuscon ^ | 4/30/2014 | Lupita Murillo and Michel Marizco

Posted on 05/01/2014 12:34:32 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan

SASABE, SONORA - Has a unit of Mexican Army soldiers who patrol right on the Arizona border gone rogue?

This small group has attacked U.S. citizens, and even challenged U.S. federal agents within the U.S. A News 4 Tucson investigation into the dangerous world of rogue soldiers in mexico's military.

In January, soldiers from this lonely outpost of the Mexican Army drew their guns on U.S. Border Patrol agents just 50 yards into the United States. Then in March, they opened fire on Javier Jose Rodriguez, a young Tucson man visiting family in Sásabe when he was driving around the town early on a Saturday morning after drinking beers with friends. Rodriguez was shot in the arm and in the side, he spent three weeks at University of Arizona Medical Center.

The United States' reaction has been tepid, angering people who live and patrol along the Arizona border. U.S. Senator Tom Coburn (R-OK) revealed details of the January encounter between soldiers from this base and the Border Patrol. In a letter to U.S. Customs and Border Protection, Coburn said a lone agent encountered two Mexican soldiers 50 yards inside the U.S. The agent and the soldiers drew their weapons; the soldiers carried G-3 rifles.

"From what I understand, this has happened hundreds of times before," says Sylvia Longmire, a border security analyst whose recent book, Border Insecurity, details the challenges and failings of some Homeland Security operations along the Arizona-Sonora border. The soldiers told the agent they'd gotten lost while pursuing a drug smuggler.

"However, I believe there was some confusion as to whether that's what the Mexican Army was doing because there was no evidence found by the Border Patrol of any drug smugglers in the area," Longmire said.

(Excerpt) Read more at kvoa.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: California
KEYWORDS: border; invasion; spitwads

1 posted on 05/01/2014 12:34:32 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan
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Send the BLM. They have experience rustling cattle.


2 posted on 05/01/2014 12:36:08 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
“Rogue” soldiers? Is that another way of saying Mexican soldiers who are the payroll of the cartels?
3 posted on 05/01/2014 12:36:16 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Stalin Blamed The Kulaks,Obama Blames The Tea Party)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
Who cares about the Mexican army invading the US? What's more important is what's going on over in Ukraine! /sarc
4 posted on 05/01/2014 12:37:27 PM PDT by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

This looks like a job for da-da-da-dum! The BLM!!


5 posted on 05/01/2014 12:42:17 PM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
Then in March, they opened fire on Javier Jose Rodriguez, a young Tucson man visiting family in Sásabe when he was driving around the town early on a Saturday morning after drinking beers with friends. Rodriguez was shot in the arm and in the side, he spent three weeks at University of Arizona Medical Center.

People who enter Mexico should *always* expect the worst.I'm far more concerned by US citizens of any sort,Border Patrol or common citizen,being fired upon while in the US.I occasionally visit a town in northern Vermont that borders on Quebec.In fact when there I go to a place *right* on the border (you can easily see the signs posted by the Canadian Immigration Patrol) and yet the Canadians have never fired on me.

6 posted on 05/01/2014 12:42:23 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Stalin Blamed The Kulaks,Obama Blames The Tea Party)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

It’s the Russians!!!!


7 posted on 05/01/2014 12:43:20 PM PDT by McGruff (I'ts not the crime it's the coverup they said.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Could use a Blackjack Pershing, but he would have been run out of this Army.


8 posted on 05/01/2014 12:51:28 PM PDT by AU72
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To: McGruff
It’s the Russians!!!!

No wonder Obama won't touch 'em.

9 posted on 05/01/2014 12:52:12 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

When I travel from DFW to Phoenix to visit GrannyBuckeye, I take the northern route through New Mexico instead of the southern route through El Paso.

The last time I did take the southern route, I stopped at a McDonalds just this side of the U.S. border for a break. From my truck in the parking lot, I watched a very large transfer of drugs between two 18-wheelers. Armed men were watching from a stand of Mesquite nearby. They weren’t trying very hard to hide.


10 posted on 05/01/2014 12:57:10 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Yes.


11 posted on 05/01/2014 12:59:55 PM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Exterminate them. Exterminate all the brutes.


12 posted on 05/01/2014 1:00:15 PM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

There’s nothing rogue about the unit.

They’re doing what the Mexican government (i.e., the smugglers) want them to do: push as far into the U.S. as they can to establish just how far they can go without being challenged.

That will tell them what they and their masters control. If it involves a little softening up - like shooting some of the locals - then fine. If the Gringos don’t respond, all is good.

For them.


13 posted on 05/01/2014 1:00:31 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: Regulator

A fence will stop that. /s


14 posted on 05/01/2014 1:02:15 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
Armed men were watching from a stand of Mesquite nearby. They weren’t trying very hard to hide

Naw. They own the local police chief and sheriff typically. Another fine by product of Affirmative Action. Usually some guy whose last name ends in "-ez".

Was driving down I-8 between Casa Grande and Gila Bend last year. Saw a party of about 8 dressed in black walking along the highway, backpacks with water. Maybe armed, maybe not.

Clearly had just crossed, waiting for their ride. No concerns, out in the open.

Ho hum. Just another day on the "border".

15 posted on 05/01/2014 1:04:18 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: Gay State Conservative
People who enter Mexico should *always* expect the worst.

Sásabe is in Arizona.

16 posted on 05/01/2014 1:06:55 PM PDT by no-s (when democracy is displaced by tyranny, the armed citizen still gets to vote)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

This is what happens when you have a weak leader. Soon Mexico will be demanding the whole Southwest be returned to them and Obammer will be happy to comply. The rogue army is just a test to see what happens.


17 posted on 05/01/2014 1:06:57 PM PDT by Vinylly (?%)
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To: Regulator
"They’re doing what the Mexican government (i.e., the smugglers) want them to do: push as far into the U.S. as they can to establish just how far they can go without being challenged."

They also might be doing what Obama's open borders agents want and further enable the invaders.

18 posted on 05/01/2014 1:08:59 PM PDT by Truth29
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To: no-s
Sásabe is in Arizona

Well, it used to be....

19 posted on 05/01/2014 1:17:03 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: no-s
Sásabe is in Arizona.

This story's byline is "SASABE, SONORA".I always thought that "Sonora" was one Mexico's provinces.Or am I missing something here?

20 posted on 05/01/2014 1:27:56 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Stalin Blamed The Kulaks,Obama Blames The Tea Party)
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To: Cowboy Bob

“Who cares about the Mexican army invading the US?”

As long as they wear their seat belts...


21 posted on 05/01/2014 1:30:20 PM PDT by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept? Vive Deco et Vives)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Where’s Harry Reid? Doesn’t Harry Reid condemn this act of aggression??? Aren’t we a nation of laws that must be enforced??? Isn’t a Mexican invasion a violation of our laws??? Certainly Reid is planning something to address this.


22 posted on 05/01/2014 1:31:24 PM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: BuckeyeTexan

transfer of drugs between two 18-wheelers.

Call the state patrol or stop at a scale and inform the guys there. They’ll chase them down and enjoy doing it.


23 posted on 05/01/2014 1:40:23 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: no-s
Sásabe is in Arizona.

For now.

24 posted on 05/01/2014 1:43:45 PM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: Vinylly

We paid 50 million in gold to Mexico for most of west, then more for Gadsen purchase. Return it? Why?


25 posted on 05/01/2014 1:55:03 PM PDT by amihow
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To: Gay State Conservative
Sásabe is in Arizona. This story's byline is "SASABE, SONORA"

Oops! It's called "El Sásabe" in Sonara, I assumed they meant the border town on the Arizona side...a follow up reveals Slightly more detail: "After Rodrigues Amaya was shot, he opened the driver’s door of the truck and fell down. He asked his friends to find his father, who then took him to the Sasabe Port of Entry. There, Customs and Border Protection officers performed first aid until the helicopter arrived."

From which we may infer the guy is a US Citizen, but he must have been in Mexico just a short distance from the US, in El Sásabe, which of course is typically shortened to just "Sásabe", which is also the name of the Arizona town just a short distance over the border (few 100 yards). Technically the same town as far as the locals are concerned...except for the annoying border crossing.

As for visiting Mexico, it's off the list indefinitely. Maybe if they offer reciprocity for US State CHL?

26 posted on 05/01/2014 1:56:33 PM PDT by no-s (when democracy is displaced by tyranny, the armed citizen still gets to vote)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
The reality is Mexico is retaking the South West.
Im not trying to be provictict it the reality..What was the USA is crumbling ..

its best to grasp this truth so we control and create what comes after..

Because ...while the power in DC that be that seem to be facilitating the USA crumbling “change”...it does not necessarily have to change as they assume..

Them leaving the door open for Mexico also leave it open for locals to step up..

The USA was built on a decentralized concept DC types forget that..they think if the Federal or Top leaders defers that country falls.This is typical of leftest that have a overblown idea of how necessary the are and we are all children..we can't survive with out them vs the truth is that we will step up one they get out of the way

But truth is the fed defer the states step up..if the States defer the counties step up..if the counties defer the local people step up... The USA was build by an association of self responsible free men..not the silly children that left wants people to be so then can play big mommy

27 posted on 05/01/2014 1:59:02 PM PDT by tophat9000 (An Eye for an Eye, a Word for a Word...nothing more.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Seems this has been happening on a semi-regular basis for years.


28 posted on 05/01/2014 2:02:35 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Gay State Conservative

Sasabe is on both sides of the border.

It’s a Port of Entry with a US Post Office, but the bulk of the Sasabe residents live in Sonora, MX.

Google maps -

https://goo.gl/maps/PGOhp


29 posted on 05/01/2014 2:02:45 PM PDT by az_gila
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To: B4Ranch

Yeah, I reported it. They were in no particular hurry to get there and didn’t seem all that interested in the details.

Me and my three hand guns were no match so I didn’t try it.


30 posted on 05/01/2014 2:03:36 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: tophat9000

Yes, that’s the spirit that sent people West across the pond and farther West to the Pacific. The problem is that the Left has created an entire class who are dependent on government handouts and who know nothing of hardship or self-reliance. Those people don’t have the slightest clue how to defend themselves, let alone a nation.


31 posted on 05/01/2014 2:26:18 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
From my truck in the parking lot, I watched a very large transfer of drugs between two 18-wheelers. Armed men were watching from a stand of Mesquite nearby. They weren’t trying very hard to hide.

Reason #287 why I've never been within 300 miles of the Mexican border and never will *go* within that distance of it for the rest of my life.Although I *have* been to Long Beach and Dallas...don't know how far they are from the border.

32 posted on 05/01/2014 3:03:54 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Stalin Blamed The Kulaks,Obama Blames The Tea Party)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Great. All while the border patrol targets Americans.


33 posted on 05/01/2014 3:04:55 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Folks, the electoral fix is in.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Dallas is about eight hours from the border, unless you drive like I do. In that case, it’s about six. ;p


34 posted on 05/01/2014 3:08:52 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: az_gila

Sounds kind of like Laredo & Nuevo Laredo on the Texas-Mexico border.


35 posted on 05/01/2014 3:14:53 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: Navy Patriot

lol


36 posted on 05/01/2014 3:32:27 PM PDT by apocalypto
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To: Regulator

Send a couple of Navy SEAL teams down there to have a little prayer meeting with them. :-)


37 posted on 05/01/2014 7:05:41 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Cowboy Bob

These moves by the Mexican troops (unlikely “rogue”) may be inspired by Putin’s moves and of course Obama’s weakness in the face thereof.


38 posted on 05/03/2014 12:27:56 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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