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Common Sense Calls for Repeal of Second Amendment
Seattle Times ^ | 1 May 2014 | Jerry Large

Posted on 05/01/2014 4:49:26 PM PDT by Publius

I don’t believe the Second Amendment was ever intended to support the kind of gun craziness we contend with today, but since it’s always used to ward off any common-sense gun reforms, maybe we ought to just fix the Constitution and be done with it.

Yes, I know the odds against that are immense, but maybe we could start by nibbling away at the idea that the Constitution is infallible or that the founders had the answers to everything. They were smart men but neither perfect nor prescient.

One of the ways they showed how smart they were, was that they made a document that could be updated when it needed to be, and today it needs to be on this issue.

We’ve had another of those disturbing clusters of shootings in Seattle the past week, and gun violence continues to injure and kill across the country in public, and frequently private, ways. Most gun deaths are suicides.

But some Americans embrace their guns even more tightly even as the headlines call out for sanity. You know what I’m talking about.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; guncontrol; molonlabe; rkba
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Good red meat for FReepers. Have at it.
1 posted on 05/01/2014 4:49:26 PM PDT by Publius
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To: Publius

Second Amendment protections were put in place so that citizens could shoot operatives of an oppressive government, not deer.


2 posted on 05/01/2014 4:51:34 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: Publius

Come and take them Jerry, just try, please.


3 posted on 05/01/2014 4:51:37 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Publius
Passing both houses of Congress might be tough.Getting three quarters of state legislatures to go along will *surely* be tough.
4 posted on 05/01/2014 4:51:55 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Stalin Blamed The Kulaks,Obama Blames The Tea Party)
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To: Publius

5 posted on 05/01/2014 4:52:14 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: Publius

Good luck!


6 posted on 05/01/2014 4:52:36 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: Publius

Go ahead and repeal it.

I’ll still have a God-given right to effectively defend myself against those more-numerous, more-powerful and less-principled then myself.


7 posted on 05/01/2014 4:52:53 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Publius

He should just move to Mexico where gun ownership is illegal for just about everyone, that way he can avoid all the gun violence.


8 posted on 05/01/2014 4:53:48 PM PDT by Malsua
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To: HiJinx

Freeper Red Meat.


9 posted on 05/01/2014 4:54:10 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: tet68

“Ah, I love the smell of napalm in the air.”


10 posted on 05/01/2014 4:54:46 PM PDT by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
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To: Publius

LOL Detroit Firearms instructor and blogger Rick Ector spoke to a state senator representing Detroit the other day and the senator wants to do something about Detroit’s Justified Homicide “Problem”.


11 posted on 05/01/2014 4:55:08 PM PDT by cripplecreek
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To: Publius
Yes, I know the odds against that are immense, but maybe we could start by nibbling away at the idea that the Constitution is infallible or that the founders had the answers to everything.

Could the author possibly give more evidence for his ignorance?

12 posted on 05/01/2014 4:55:34 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Publius

Repeal the second amendment: HAR! HAR! HAR!


13 posted on 05/01/2014 4:55:43 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Publius

Jerry Large
Seattle Times staff columnist
Jerry Large’s column appears Monday and Thursday.
You can reach him at 206-464-3346 or jlarge@seattletimes.com.
14 posted on 05/01/2014 4:55:55 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: Publius

As if my rights come from parchment. Repeal and arm yourself for the war of enforcement candyass.


15 posted on 05/01/2014 4:56:15 PM PDT by The Toll (e)
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To: Publius
Most gun deaths are suicides.

If so, then I'm more than happy to lend him my gun.

16 posted on 05/01/2014 4:56:25 PM PDT by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: Publius

OK, cops, criminals, villains, tyrants, and feral gumming alphabet agencies disarm FIRST!

Can’t do that?

Impractical yous say?

Then, forget about disarming us.

As long as cops, criminals, villains, tyrants and feral gummint alphabet agencies have as much as a knife, we RESERVE the right to defend ourselves against them with firepower!


17 posted on 05/01/2014 4:56:33 PM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: Publius

Someone have a “My home is gun-free” sign for this guy?


18 posted on 05/01/2014 4:56:58 PM PDT by jughandle ( "We have the right to debate and disagree with any administration!" -HRC)
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To: Publius
Jerry, The 2nd amendment was put in place to protect every one else from people like you.
19 posted on 05/01/2014 4:57:10 PM PDT by mongo141 (Revolution ver. 2.0, just a matter of when, not a matter of if!)
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To: Malsua

Or Chicago. He’s definitely be safe there.


20 posted on 05/01/2014 4:58:22 PM PDT by abishai (Hello Jane!!! I miss you.)
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To: Publius

Give it your best, suckah.


21 posted on 05/01/2014 4:58:58 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Publius

bfl


22 posted on 05/01/2014 5:01:24 PM PDT by Doomonyou (Let them eat Lead.)
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To: Publius
1. The 2nd Amendment does not grant any rights.

2. Come and get em. I dare you.

23 posted on 05/01/2014 5:02:08 PM PDT by dware (3 prohibited topics in mixed company: politics, religion and operating systems...)
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To: Publius

This is one of those douches that want the US to send arms to Syria, Egypt, Libya, Ukraine, etc. and all the other third world countries that DON’T have a second amendment right or any bill of rights for that matter. I suspect that in the near future we will get requests for arms for the third world countries of the EU when their financial systems finally collapse.


24 posted on 05/01/2014 5:02:11 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Watching MSM news readers pimping His Arrogance is like watching a dog eat its own vomit!)
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To: tet68

Common sense calls for the repeal of the rights of black males. Just last weekend we had multiple people murdered by young black males. Something must be done to curb the violence that is committed by this group of people. Maybe we should take their freedom away and make this country a safer place for our children.


25 posted on 05/01/2014 5:02:18 PM PDT by peeps36 (Save The Tortoise And Kill The People)
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To: Publius
Let me be the first to say:

MOLON LABE!


26 posted on 05/01/2014 5:02:35 PM PDT by Perseverando (Obamanation: It's ALL about PEOPLE CONTROL!)
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To: Publius

It would be far easier to just make murder illegal.

seriously


27 posted on 05/01/2014 5:02:57 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Moonman62

Ok lets start nibbling at the consitution.....

1) repeal the 15th

2) repeal the 16 th

3) repeal the 17th

4) repeal the 19th

5) repeal the 24th

6) repeal the 26th

How do you lik them apples ???

you put one in play, they all come into play...what a dope Mr Large is.


28 posted on 05/01/2014 5:03:17 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: peeps36

There is no need to take their rights away,
just allow everyone else to shoot back.


29 posted on 05/01/2014 5:04:30 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: The Toll

He’d rely on other people with guns to try and take our guns.


30 posted on 05/01/2014 5:05:45 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Publius

Institute more gun free zones, asshats.


31 posted on 05/01/2014 5:06:08 PM PDT by TheZMan (Buy more ammo.)
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To: Publius

“Repeal of Second Amendment”

Wow, I never heard of that suggestion before. What an original thinker. What would the Seattle Times do without this brilliant affirmative action hire?


32 posted on 05/01/2014 5:06:27 PM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (Things are only going to get worse.)
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To: Publius
...the founders had the answers to everything. They were smart men but neither perfect nor prescient.

If the Founders were perfect and prescient, Obama and his mother would never been allowed back in the country, and Jerry Large would be in a Federal prison.

33 posted on 05/01/2014 5:06:50 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Publius

The Second Amendment is the guarantor of the First Amendment.


34 posted on 05/01/2014 5:07:38 PM PDT by kaehurowing (FIGHT BULLYING, UNINSTALL FIREFOX)
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To: Malsua

Mexico? Heck just go to Chicago.


35 posted on 05/01/2014 5:07:40 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Publius

Before we ATTACK this guy, we should, first, RESPECT him.

For he is saying that the CONSTITUTION does have (at least some) meaning, which puts him at odds with just about EVERY elected Democrat.

As to changing the Constitution to get rid of the Second Amendment, that is EXACTLY what supporters of gun control should do. They should work to get 2/3’s of the House and 2/3’s of the Senate, and then 3/4’s of the states to support his plan.

If he’s able to do all that, which I don’t see happening in my lifetime, so I’m not worried about it (unless Amnesty passes and we have 30 million new Democrat voters).

But if he does manage to change the Constitution, then we conservatives should ACCEPT that, for he played by the rules, and defeated us.


36 posted on 05/01/2014 5:07:47 PM PDT by BobL
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To: Publius

Just as soon as they relinquish their First Amendment rights, then they can come talk to me................


37 posted on 05/01/2014 5:08:59 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Publius
But some Americans embrace their guns even more tightly even as the headlines call out for sanity

Are these headlines being written by the same media that refuse to cover any of the government abuses of power which are going on constantly? Sorry Jerry but you people lie constantly, distort facts and are not worthy of a second of our consideration when it comes to just about anything.

38 posted on 05/01/2014 5:10:02 PM PDT by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: Publius

“Common Sense.” ROTFL! The meaning of that sure has changed big time since I was a kid. It once meant common sense. Now it means, surrender your rights and freedoms to the government. This clown should know better. Hey Mr. “Common Sense”! KMA!!! Too many Americans, BETTER THAN YOU, died for us to have that Second Amendment right.


39 posted on 05/01/2014 5:10:06 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Obama's smidgens are coming home to roost.)
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To: Ouderkirk

Yep. 300 million people murdered by governments, 100 million in the last century alone. What could possibly go wrong if we banned guns.


40 posted on 05/01/2014 5:10:53 PM PDT by Hardastarboard (Please excuse the potholes in this tagline. Social programs have to take priority in our funding.)
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To: Publius
"I don’t believe the Second Amendment was ever intended to support the kind of gun craziness we contend with today"

We don't care what you believe Jerry. We have guns and we're going to keep them.

41 posted on 05/01/2014 5:10:56 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Publius
A perusal of The Federalist Papers convinces me that the Founders were a lot gun crazier than anybody these days. Just read NUMBER XXVIII. Here Hamilton contemplates with equanimity a Federation of States constantly wracked with "seditions and insurrections", perpetrated and opposed by every manner of armed body. It's almost comical.

Also, I think the second amendment was written with a view towards organized militia, but personal ownership of firearms was simply never in question. In fact this attitude persisted until very recent times. I read the fascinating picture book, ASSASSINATION! THE BRICK CHRONICLE OF ATTEMPTS ON THE LIVES OF TWELVE US PRESIDENTS by Brendan Powell Smith. "BRICK" refers to the illustrations which are photos of LEGO models.

Anyway, many of these assassins and would be assassins easily bought handguns in e.g. a hardware store. Sarah Jane Moore had a gun confiscated from her by the Secret Service a few days before her attempt on President Ford, and simply went out and bought another one!

42 posted on 05/01/2014 5:12:13 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: driftdiver

I won’t be there when they come for me, I’ll be waiting for his lights to go out for the night at his house.


43 posted on 05/01/2014 5:13:13 PM PDT by The Toll (e)
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To: BobL
then we conservatives should ACCEPT that

No.

God gave me my rights. The Constitution just enumerates some of them.

/johnny

44 posted on 05/01/2014 5:18:20 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Publius
Scratch a progressive, find a sawed off runt tyrant.

I see a lot of similarities between smug elitists like this guy and fellows like Pol Pot.

I wonder how many realize what people like this are capable of given total power?

45 posted on 05/01/2014 5:22:31 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Publius

I completely support the 30 IQ liberal ape, Jerry Large, showing up at my front porch and trying to confiscate my armory.


46 posted on 05/01/2014 5:22:46 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: BobL
But if he does manage to change the Constitution, then we conservatives should ACCEPT that, for he played by the rules, and defeated us.

No, not even then. The Constitution is intended to limit the power and authority of the government. Using it to limit the rights of the people is turning it upside down. Just because a majority vote enables tyranny is not sufficient reason to go along with it quietly....

47 posted on 05/01/2014 5:25:41 PM PDT by no-s (when democracy is displaced by tyranny, the armed citizen still gets to vote)
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To: basil; txhurl

See my tagline and 2nd Amendment ping.


48 posted on 05/01/2014 5:27:00 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (The Second Amendment is NOT about the right to hunt. It IS a right to shoot tyrants.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

My only point, JRP, is that this person is playing by the rules. Needless to say, I will fight like hell against him...and he won’t get anywhere.

But it sure beats what the liberals usually do...which is simply IGNORE the Constitution and pass laws that directly violate it.


49 posted on 05/01/2014 5:30:39 PM PDT by BobL
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To: no-s
The Constitution is intended to limit the power and authority of the government. Using it to limit the rights of the people is turning it upside down.

Absolutely correct, and AMEN!

It's a shame more conservatives don't get that.

/johnny

50 posted on 05/01/2014 5:30:46 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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