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Obamacare beneficiary: ‘You wouldn’t have caught me dead watching MSNBC’
washington post ^ | april 29, 2014 | erik wemple

Posted on 05/01/2014 4:56:20 PM PDT by lowbridge

In an interview with the Erik Wemple Blog today, Angstadt reported having watched that MSNBC segment online today. It was an introduction of sorts: “You wouldn’t have caught me dead watching MSNBC,” said Angstadt. “That’s probably the longest I’d ever sat and watched MSNBC in my life.”

Angstadt was in bad condition prior to his March 31 valve-replacement surgery. “I was going to die,” he told this blog. “I was preparing myself. I knew I was pretty sick since last October.” Yet he still resisted the attempts of friend Bob Leinhauser to get him enrolled in Obamacare. “I had to back him into a corner,” says Leinhauser, who worked for 27 years for Montgomery County’s fire and rescue department. He told Angstadt, “You’re what we call a cardiac cripple.”

After signing up for insurance via the Obamacare exchange, Angstadt pays $26.11 for the Highmark Blue Cross silver PPO plan, as reported by the Inquirer. The policy took effect just before Angstadt’s surgery.

But what accounts for Angstadt’s resistance to Obamacare in the first place? He says that he “leans” Republican and essentially listened to what the GOP had to say about Obamacare, and not so much to what the Democrats had to say. As for his media diet, Anstadt says he goes online for some of his news, but when it comes to television, “Fox News, of course, and that’s basically what I watch on TV,” in addition to local news, he says. “I like some of those radicals” on Fox News, he says. “I like O’Reilly.”

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: obamacare
Referred article: Once opposed to ACA, now a convert
1 posted on 05/01/2014 4:56:20 PM PDT by lowbridge
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To: lowbridge

re: “I like some of those radicals” on Fox News, he says.”

They’re trying to pass this guy off as some sort of converted conservative. A conservative would not use the term “radicals” to describe someone they thought was truly conservative.

This story sounds bogus to me.


2 posted on 05/01/2014 4:59:10 PM PDT by rusty schucklefurd
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To: lowbridge

$26.11 for a silver plan? Pull the other one, it has bells on it!


3 posted on 05/01/2014 4:59:30 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: lowbridge

Pure manure.


4 posted on 05/01/2014 5:03:16 PM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: lowbridge

I don’t believe a word of this agitprop.


5 posted on 05/01/2014 5:03:21 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Wait til he gets the bill for his deductible. As if he has the $6000.


6 posted on 05/01/2014 5:03:52 PM PDT by griswold3 (I was born here in America. I will die here in a third world country. Obama succeeded.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So I am 56 and the silver plan through the california site would cost me about 650.00 a month why does he get to pay
26.11 a month. I have never been sick nor do I need surgery.
Also the deductible was almost 12 K a year.


7 posted on 05/01/2014 5:03:59 PM PDT by funfan
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To: lowbridge

Didn’t this guy belong to a union? He should have lavish health care benefits.


8 posted on 05/01/2014 5:05:12 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: lowbridge

Twice bypassed myself and without insurance since retiring early by choice last year. Still, I wont become part of that misengination of health and government named the ACA. I may die early but it wont be at the mercy of some bureaucrat who may or may not allow me to have another intervention of cardiac care if needed.

Don’t count me in as one of those converts and I am definitely not a Bill O’Reilly devotee. Mush mouth.


9 posted on 05/01/2014 5:05:25 PM PDT by CARTOUCHE (I'm an Obamacare truant.)
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To: lowbridge

Yes. I know there is a handout waiting for me if I will just climb on the wagon.

But at what cost?


10 posted on 05/01/2014 5:06:26 PM PDT by Chuckster (The longer I live the less I care about what you think.)
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To: funfan

Subsidies FRiend, that’s how. Here’s what you need to do (other than be deathly sick with no income): quit your job, get on welfare, have a few kids you can never afford (preferably out of wedlock) and then you’ll be golden too.

It’s FREE maan, get with the times. What are you some kind of redneck racist with a work ethic?


11 posted on 05/01/2014 5:09:13 PM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: CARTOUCHE

Well if you could get insurance for 26.11 a month and get operations it sounds like at no charge the way the article is written you should sign up for it.


12 posted on 05/01/2014 5:11:04 PM PDT by funfan
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To: lowbridge

The states set up high risks pools for people that could not obtain commercial insurance or insurance through an employer. But 0-care eliminated the state plans. Secondly, as a retired fireman in PA, why didn’t he have a big fat juicy taxpayer supported healthcare plan?
This is BS propaganda from the state media as usual.


13 posted on 05/01/2014 5:11:19 PM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est. New US economy: Fascism on top, Socialism on the bottom.)
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To: Chuckster

Right. Let’s all get in the Wagon and scream for someone to pull. Hell. Why is he even paying $26 per month. Why isn’t it free? We should all have free health care.

It’s a pathetic life on the dole but a lot of Americans are willing to give up freedom and self sufficiency to live a lazy life off someone else’s dime.


14 posted on 05/01/2014 5:13:06 PM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: griswold3

Those dang little details the liberal media leaves out of their stories


15 posted on 05/01/2014 5:14:03 PM PDT by lowbridge
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To: rusty schucklefurd

Im thinking democrat plant.


16 posted on 05/01/2014 5:14:28 PM PDT by lowbridge
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To: lowbridge

Phony premise.

Republicans haven’t opposed people buying health insurance.


17 posted on 05/01/2014 5:15:07 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (Hoaxey Dopey Changey)
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To: funfan
I pay absolutely nothing. No deductible, monthly payment, copay, prescription costs, etc. I even get paid mileage when I have to travel to see a doctor, nurse practitioner or other medical professional.
18 posted on 05/01/2014 5:15:38 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: lowbridge

GGoddess
3:42 PM CDT
So glad Mr. Adgstad got his surgery and one good story of Obamacare. But for every success story there are those that paid for it. Here it is....my friend after 10 years with his company was laid off Tuesday along with others. In addition all employees pay was reduced by 25%. Reason given Obamacare.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2014/04/29/obamacare-beneficiary-you-wouldnt-have-caught-me-dead-watching-msnbc/


19 posted on 05/01/2014 5:19:45 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: FourtySeven

If my house were paid off maybe I would although I do not think I would make enough to pay for my property tax.

What are they gonna do when everyone says FUBO and quits working who will pay then Janet Yellen?


20 posted on 05/01/2014 5:21:05 PM PDT by funfan
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To: skeeter

It’s says he’s a retired “logger”
not sure if they are unionized or not


21 posted on 05/01/2014 5:21:37 PM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: lowbridge
Obamacare beneficiary: ‘You wouldn’t have caught me dead watching MSNBC’

But now that he's been on the gov't gravy train, he's a fellow traveler.

22 posted on 05/01/2014 5:21:38 PM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: lowbridge

Dean Angstadt, a self-employed logger with a bad heart,

Angstadt, who lives in a town north of Philadelphia and works in the woods, had a bum ticker that was dangerously ticking down. He could barely walk 50 feet without gasping for breath. This winter, his doctor told him he needed valve-replacement surgery. Problem was, Angstadt didn’t have health insurance.

********

Who do you think is subsidizing his healthcare insurance now?

Who do you think will pay for it in the future when he decides it’s too expensive?


23 posted on 05/01/2014 5:24:10 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: kcvl

What about the people who are losing cancer treatment because of O care.


24 posted on 05/01/2014 5:24:28 PM PDT by funfan
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To: griswold3

Not sure where you got the $6000 deductible number.
I looked the plan up and it says $1500 deductible in-network.

https://www.highmarkbcbs.com/sbc/pdf/bcbs/I_1898018940_20140101_SBC.pdf


25 posted on 05/01/2014 5:24:56 PM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: nascarnation

It also says he was a 27 year county employee.


26 posted on 05/01/2014 5:25:38 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: lowbridge

::SNIIIIIFFF:: Oh the lucky lucky guy...saved by zerocare and for only $26 per month out of his pocket.
$700 per month out of the taxpayers pocket

but hey...what do they care...greedy selfish taxpayer bastids...a LIFE was saved.

Bite me.


27 posted on 05/01/2014 5:27:07 PM PDT by Adder (No, Mr. Franklin, we could NOT keep it.)
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To: kcvl
Who do you think is subsidizing his healthcare insurance now?

60% - directly by taxpayer

40% - everybody who is affected by the fake money created to fund the 40% of the yearly federal budget that is borrowed.

28 posted on 05/01/2014 5:27:35 PM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: skeeter
No go back and read it again. Leinhauser his buddy who talked him into getting Obamacare is the 27 year county employee.

Yet he still resisted the attempts of friend Bob Leinhauser to get him enrolled in Obamacare. “I had to back him into a corner,” says Leinhauser, who worked for 27 years for Montgomery County’s fire and rescue department. He told Angstadt, “You’re what we call a cardiac cripple.”

29 posted on 05/01/2014 5:29:44 PM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: lowbridge

a self-employed, self-sufficient logger who has cleared his own path for most of his 57 years, never expecting help from anyone. And even though he’d been uninsured since 2009

“But then I considered his monthly premium — $22.11 — and worked backward via ValuePenguin, which is still posting prices with a subsidy calculation for the just-finished 2014 open enrollment season. That premium for Angstadt’s plan in his home county of Berks County, PA bespeaks an annual income in the neighborhood of $16,000. At that income level, he qualifies for the ACA’s highest level of cost sharing reduction (CSR), calculated to give the plan an actuarial value of 94%, comparable to the best employer-sponsored plans. For this particular plan, the Highmark Blue Cross Silver PPO, that translates to a deductible of $100 and an out-of-pocket maximum of $500, as ValuePenguin shows and a Highmark rep verified for me.”

http://xpostfactoid.blogspot.com/2014/04/the-aca-saved-his-life-its-subsidies.html

It looks like he is actually on Medicaid (welfare)


30 posted on 05/01/2014 5:29:48 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: lowbridge

Dean Angstadt Logging
953 Manatawny Rd, Boyertown, PA 19512
(610) 689-8273

31 posted on 05/01/2014 5:32:03 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: kcvl; nascarnation
So he owned his own company.

Thats rich.

32 posted on 05/01/2014 5:33:23 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: lowbridge

Leinhauser, 55, a retired firefighter and nurse


33 posted on 05/01/2014 5:36:47 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: kcvl
It looks like he is actually on Medicaid (welfare)

Medicaid generally has no premiums, deductible, copays, or coinsurance. You must be thinking of something else.

34 posted on 05/01/2014 5:37:40 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture)
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To: skeeter

IRS might want to see his tax returns (if there are any)


35 posted on 05/01/2014 5:39:30 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: skeeter

Company Name: Dean Angstadt Logging
Trade Name:
Year Founded: 1996
Location Type: Single

Revenue (estimate): $ 160,000
Employees: (estimate): 2
Facility Size (sqft): N/A
Sector: Heavy Construction, Except Building Construction, Contractor
Category: Heavy construction, nec
Industry: Land clearing contractor
SIC Code: 1629


36 posted on 05/01/2014 5:41:41 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: kcvl

And he probably reaps some under the table revenue by selling fill dirt, logging and stone — things he’s paid to clear away.


37 posted on 05/01/2014 5:45:13 PM PDT by Usagi_yo
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To: Usagi_yo

I wonder if he paid workers comp insurance on his 2 employees?

Or did he pay them in cash?

I bet there is pay dirt in examining whether he paid business insurance & taxes if he wasn’t responsible enough to buy his own healthcare insurance.


38 posted on 05/01/2014 5:54:09 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Usagi_yo

Almost all those kinds of jobs are cash under the table unless it’s government work.


39 posted on 05/01/2014 5:57:41 PM PDT by VRWCarea51
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To: kcvl

When I had my business WC was mandatory. It was something like 5.6% total of wages paid and either the state collected it all or the state collected a portion and the Federal government collected the rest, so 5.6% was de-facto mandatory. PErhaps I’m confusing it with FUTA and SUTA? I know I paid SDI — state disability insurance, it’s unavoidable if you’re doing your payroll right.


40 posted on 05/01/2014 6:00:40 PM PDT by Usagi_yo
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think he meant $26.11 PER DAY.


41 posted on 05/01/2014 6:02:46 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Want to keep your doctor? Remove your Democrat Senator.)
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To: kcvl

As long as he’s shilling for obamacare, the IRS isnt interested in looking at his tax returns.


42 posted on 05/01/2014 6:04:24 PM PDT by lowbridge
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To: Balding_Eagle

Is that how one normally pays for medical insurance?


43 posted on 05/01/2014 6:14:07 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: kcvl
It doesn't matter how many of these bums the media trots out, people aren't going to warm to the ACA scam.

Wait until the employer mandate kicks in. They can delay it for only so long.

44 posted on 05/01/2014 6:15:12 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: lowbridge

government break your leg then give you a crunch, then tell you see “without me, you couldn’t walk”


45 posted on 05/01/2014 7:17:58 PM PDT by 4rcane
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To: kcvl

Some people were subsidized and did not have to pay big premiums for pre existing conditions, it’s part of the deal.
Unequal distribution.


46 posted on 05/01/2014 7:25:03 PM PDT by Kackikat
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To: lowbridge
In order to insure the uninsured, we first have to un-insure the insured.

Next we require the newly un-insured to be re-insured.

To re-insure the newly un-insured, they are required to pay extra charges to be re-insured.

The extra charges are required so that the original insured, who became un-insured, and then became re-insured, can pay enough extra so that the original un-insured can be insured for free.

There, I hope that this clarifies this issue once & for all.

47 posted on 05/01/2014 7:40:31 PM PDT by SkyDancer (I Believe In The Law Until It Intereferes With Justice. And Pay Your Liberty Tax Citizen.)
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To: lowbridge

Wow - they finally found somebody who’s benefiting from Obamacare (until he gets the bill for his co-pay and deductible - which you’ll never hear about)......


48 posted on 05/01/2014 9:12:54 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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