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Guardsman sues over Army's new tattoo rules
Stars and Stripes ^ | May 1, 2014 | Brett Barrouquere

Posted on 05/01/2014 9:45:30 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar

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1 posted on 05/01/2014 9:45:30 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: blueyon; KitJ; T Minus Four; xzins; CMS; The Sailor; ab01; txradioguy; Jet Jaguar; Defender2; ...

Active Duty ping.


2 posted on 05/01/2014 9:46:01 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Resist in place.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

All tattoos are a crime against decorum and civilization.


3 posted on 05/01/2014 9:49:10 PM PDT by eddie willers
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Gangbangers love tattoos — and have no place in our military.


4 posted on 05/01/2014 9:50:32 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Jet Jaguar
Queequeg no savvy.


5 posted on 05/01/2014 9:51:45 PM PDT by mylife
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To: mylife

Yep.
Facial tattos a nogo for many years now.


6 posted on 05/01/2014 9:56:22 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Resist in place.)
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I have a good buddy that is a warrant officer in the reserves and an Apache pilot.

It is a damn shame the way they are being treated (and he has no tattoos)


7 posted on 05/01/2014 9:57:10 PM PDT by mylife
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Just more excuses for thinning the forces.

Unfortunatly.


8 posted on 05/01/2014 9:59:01 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Resist in place.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Actions have consequences


9 posted on 05/01/2014 10:01:43 PM PDT by easternsky
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To: Jet Jaguar

Guess we should just do away with rules altogether.

Juveniles hate ‘em.


10 posted on 05/01/2014 10:11:22 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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Don’t you kinda give up a few rights when you enlist, agree to follow certain military codes and rules?


11 posted on 05/01/2014 10:21:25 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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You do.

This guy was already serving.

They changed the rules without a grandfather clause.


12 posted on 05/01/2014 10:23:39 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Resist in place.)
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No tats but its ok for queers to openly serve. This military is run by screws.


13 posted on 05/01/2014 10:35:33 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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Don’t you kinda give up a few rights when you enlist, agree to follow certain military codes and rules?

May I direct your attention to two pieces of information in the article?

You don't get to staff sergeant in three years, so the terms he agreed to were different.
The constitution places this regulation on Congress:
No Bill of Attainder or ex post facto Law shall be passed.
While the Supreme Court did carve out an exception for civil law, the possibility of retroactive rule-changes impacting punishments was their main argument — so if these revisions are applied to the staff sergeant then he has a pretty valid case. (Incidentally this shows why things likke military regulations, and 'normal' civil law should, at that high a level, be relatively stable.)
14 posted on 05/01/2014 10:46:09 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: eddie willers

Really? I was thinking of encouraging my son to enlist as a way to learn a trade. School is not his thing, but cooking is. He has a couple of tats so he should not be allowed?

And, mine are a crime against civilization? You do not know me.


15 posted on 05/01/2014 11:02:53 PM PDT by ozaukeemom (Is there even a republic left?)
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To: Jet Jaguar
The regulation is old--not new. No visible tattoos allowed. Tattoos can also spread AIDS, because equipment is sometimes not adequately sterilized.






16 posted on 05/01/2014 11:05:48 PM PDT by familyop
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17 posted on 05/01/2014 11:08:29 PM PDT by familyop
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To: Jet Jaguar

The lack of a “grandfather” clause is questionable, but my understanding has been that military tattoos are supposed to be done in a way that they are not visible while in uniform (at least in the Army), and that the various Special Forces groups (SOCOM, Green Berets, Rangers, and the like) discouraged them in general because as “identifying marks” they made individual soldiers more readily recognizable. The article says this guy’s tattoos are down to his elbow, which would mean they’d be exposed in a sleeves-up situation.

Too, the military *is* trying to downsize, and when they get into that mode, they pull all kinds of chicken-s#it regulation rules-lawyering to find any excuse to drop people.


18 posted on 05/01/2014 11:29:58 PM PDT by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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Yeah, cuz once he gets into training, they will make sure he gets a “fair” shot. This is so funny.

Roll Dow n your sleeve and move on son.


19 posted on 05/01/2014 11:31:17 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Nobody is allowed to have any standards at all these days


20 posted on 05/01/2014 11:37:45 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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