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Judge says sexually assaulted 14-year-old 'wasn't the victim she claimed to be'
Dallas Morning News ^ | May 01, 2014

Posted on 05/02/2014 5:06:16 AM PDT by Wolfie

Judge says sexually assaulted 14-year-old 'wasn't the victim she claimed to be'

A man sentenced to five years probation by a Dallas County judge after admitting he raped a 14-year-old girl won’t have to follow many of the restrictions typically given to sex offenders.

And the judge who issued the light sentence said Thursday that she did so in part because the girl wasn’t a virgin and “wasn’t the victim she claimed to be.”

State District Judge Jeanine Howard, who gave 20-year-old Sir Young deferred probation last week, also altered Young’s probation requirements. As a result, Young does not have to stay away from children, attend sex offender treatment, undergo a sex offender evaluation or refrain from watching pornography.

While not required by law, these are typical probation requirements for rapists that are intended to prevent future victims and rehabilitate offenders.

District Attorney Craig Watkins said Thursday that his prosecutors would “always fight for our most vulnerable victims” like the one in this case. It is rare for prosecutors to critique a judge’s actions, but Watkins said he was “alarmed” by Howard’s decision.

“This young lady was 14 at the time she was sexually assaulted at school, and we cannot send the wrong message to rape victims who have the courage to seek justice,” Watkins said. “I am disappointed the judge would choose to give the defendant probation after he admitted guilt, but even more alarmed the judge failed to impose standard sex offender conditions of probation designed to protect society.”

Howard, a Democrat who will be unopposed in November as she seeks a third term, said in an interview late Thursday with The Dallas Morning News that she planned to recuse herself from the case so she could speak about her decision.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: rape
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To: Wolfie

So raping non-virgins is ok? That’s what this judge is saying?


21 posted on 05/02/2014 5:26:41 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: momtothree

She can laugh but if she is underage, a crime has been committed.
The exploitation of minors has become epidemic. If we are going to allow minors to have sex, we should also allow them to obtain credit cards under their name. What could possibly go wrong?


22 posted on 05/02/2014 5:29:47 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: grania
Once a student is 18 at the beginning of an academic year, they should not be allowed to have any contact with the younger students, if they're allowed in the school during normal hours at all.

That would be impossible to do; however, many states have so called Romeo laws, which acknowledge that there is a big difference between a 17 year old having sexual relations and with someone who is 18 vs 40. These laws generally put a 2 year window on age that overrides statutory rape laws.

There is a lot of difference in maturity between kids 14-18. Some 18 year olds look like children and some 14 year olds look like adults (especially with makeup).

IMHO, any adult that is over 20 shouldn't be dating someone in HS, although the level of maturity is overlapping.

23 posted on 05/02/2014 5:31:52 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: AppyPappy

This is the next sexual behavior boundary that the left will seek to destroy.


24 posted on 05/02/2014 5:34:06 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Wolfie

“If Young complies with the terms of his five-year probation, he will not have a criminal conviction on his record.”


25 posted on 05/02/2014 5:34:27 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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To: grania

IMHO.. it made more sense to have middle school from grades 7-9 and high school grades 10-12. They use to have that type of arrangement in our county years ago. When you look at the incoming Freshman class vs the Senior class.. the age/maturity disparity is quite noticeable.


26 posted on 05/02/2014 5:36:40 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: Wolfie

First the Ethan Couch case . . . now this. We know the Couches had plenty of money. What did “Sir” Young’s family offer?


27 posted on 05/02/2014 5:38:02 AM PDT by madprof98
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To: SampleMan
I agree with you about the difficulty of defining actions as always being rape in today's excuse of a civilization. I disagree that it would be "impossible to do".

Some of the urban high schools have done that around here. A few of them have totally separate academies for the 9th graders, in different buildings. Two of them that have their 9th graders keep the boys and girls segregated, and the directions are if an upperclass boy even looked inside those grade 9 girls' classrooms, call security.

The most impressive thing is that when rules are strict, no exceptions, no favoritism, the kids, both young girls and older guys, accept them with grace and humor (I'm not being sarcastic)

28 posted on 05/02/2014 5:40:41 AM PDT by grania
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To: Wolfie
I see where this is going . . . a fourteen year-old girl virgin gets drunk at a party and has sex with three guys.

The first guy gets 20 years, because the girl was a virgin and too young to give legal consent.

The second guy gets 10 years, because he, too, committed statutory rape, but the girl was no longer a virgin even though she was still too young to give legal consent.

The third guy gets probation, because by his turn, the girl was a slut who was too young to give legal consent.

29 posted on 05/02/2014 5:40:59 AM PDT by Scoutmaster (I'd rather be at Philmont)
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To: momtothree

Assuming your facts about the case are accurate, I agree with your contention the Judge may have been correct.

Often laws are written with too broad a brush.


30 posted on 05/02/2014 5:41:21 AM PDT by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: AppyPappy

Those under 18 can sign a real estate contract, it just isn’t enforceable until they turn 18.

I bought my first home at the ripe old age of 16.


31 posted on 05/02/2014 5:42:24 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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To: Beagle8U

Actually, you didn’t because it didn’t go into effect until you were 18.

I passed EMT certification when I was 17. It didn’t go into effect until I turned 18 so I wasn’t an EMT until I was 18.


32 posted on 05/02/2014 5:44:45 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: AppyPappy

I had a legal contract.


33 posted on 05/02/2014 5:47:59 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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To: AppyPappy

“She can laugh but if she is underage, a crime has been committed.
The exploitation of minors has become epidemic. If we are going to allow minors to have sex, we should also allow them to obtain credit cards under their name. What could possibly go wrong?”

Well the law as far as I can tell doesn’t treat classical rape any different from consensual sex. Both were minors at the time, just that the guy was 17 and old enough to be prosecuted.

Now should this guy be listed on some sex offender registry that treats him the same as child molesters or guys who rape women against their will? I think not: The crimes are just not the same as what he did. He was stupid, but it sounds like this young girl offered herself on a platter to be used.


34 posted on 05/02/2014 5:49:29 AM PDT by BJ1
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To: AppyPappy

That is because the age requirement for an EMT is 18.


35 posted on 05/02/2014 5:50:03 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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To: momtothree

36 posted on 05/02/2014 5:51:01 AM PDT by Bratch
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To: Bratch

If you would have asked me four years ago.. my opinion may have been different. However, I’ve seen and heard (and even read some of the texts shown to me). Granted, there were always “loose” girls. My parents told me stories of the “loose girls” in high school back in their days. However, today.. all bets are off. Yes.. there are the good girls still but a lot and I mean A LOT of the high school girls are using sex like you and I would chew gum. They like a boy and offer themselves. I don’t know.. maybe Sex in the City and our modern day culture of do whatever feels good plays into all of this. However, it still takes two to tango. If a high school girl offers and a high school boy accepts.. is it really justice to punish just the boy? If punishment was used.. both parties should be punished. ***As for that picture.. if she was my daughter... well, call Social Services now. :)


37 posted on 05/02/2014 5:58:50 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: AppyPappy
If we are going to allow minors to have sex ...

As post 23 points out, we do allow minors legally to have sex. The 14-year-old child, boy or girl, who is incapable of consenting to sex at 11:45 p.m., because the potential partner is 20, miraculously becomes capable of consenting at 11:47, because the other party is 15.

38 posted on 05/02/2014 6:09:43 AM PDT by Tax-chick (I'd forgotten how much fun it is having a dog.)
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To: Wolfie

She was a minor - the guy needs removed from society


39 posted on 05/02/2014 6:15:00 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Wolfie

Vladimir Nabokov would agree with the judge.


40 posted on 05/02/2014 6:20:29 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (This is known as "bad luck". - Robert A. Heinlein)
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