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Seattle is probably going to enact a $15/hour minimum wage
Hotair ^ | 05/02/2014 | Erika Johnsen

Posted on 05/02/2014 7:26:32 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Last November, Seattle elected a straight-up socialist to their City Council who, among other economic/social-justice aspirations, included the already popular idea of a minimum wage hike to $15/hour in her campaign platform. Evidently, the fact that that is now very likely going to happen in a gradual phase-in over the next few years isn’t quite good enough for her, via the NYT:

Mayor Ed Murray presented on Thursday what he described as an imperfect but workable plan to increase the city’s minimum wage to $15 an hour, more than twice the federal minimum wage and one of the highest anywhere in the nation, through a series of complex and phased-in stages. Just as crucially, he said, the plan has broad political support, with a coalition of labor and business groups ready to push hard for it at the City Council, starting with the first hearings next week.

But the plan, which in many other cities might be seen as a liberal Democratic agenda at the frontier of social and economic engineering, was immediately attacked not from the mayor’s right, but from his left.

Kshama Sawant, a Socialist Alternative Party member who was elected to the Seattle City Council last year on a single-minded drive to raise wages, said the plan had been “watered down” by business interests on the mayor’s 24-member committee on income inequality, of which she was also a member. In a packed news conference at City Hall right after Mr. Murray’s, she called on her supporters to continue their effort to gather signatures for a possible ballot initiative on wages this fall. The campaign might also put pressure on the Council to make the mayor’s plan better for workers, she suggested. “Every year of a phase-in means yet another year in poverty for a worker,” Ms. Sawant said. “Our work is far from done.”

A handy 21 of the city’s 24 council members are on board with the plan, which designates that large Seattle-based employers (with 500+ employees, no matter where those employees are in the country) start paying the $15/hour rate as soon as 2017 with smaller businesses phasing in by 2021 — and all this despite the fact that Washington already has the highest minimum wage in the country:

Washington is home to the nation’s highest state minimum wage, at $9.32 an hour. As of April 8, 38 states had considered minimum wage bills in 2014, with 34 of them considering increases, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures. Connecticut, Delaware, Maryland, Minnesota and West Virginia have passed increases. Hawaii is expected to join that list after legislators approved a future hike Tuesday to $10.10, the level President Obama has pushed for nationwide. Workers in several states will see minimum wages of at least $10 in several states within a few years.

States and cities have led the charge as federal legislation has languished. San Francisco started the year with a $10.74 minimum wage, while Sante Fe’s hit $10.66 on March 1. A $15 minimum wage went into effect for some workers on Jan. 1 in SeaTac, the small city that is home to Seattle–Tacoma International Airport.

I might add that, while a “coalition of business and labor groups are ready to push hard” for the hike, there are other groups equally ready to push hard against it:

Seattle’s push to become the first big U.S. city with a $15-an-hour minimum wage has hit a snag: opposition from waiters and bartenders. …

“People are talking about moving to a European system of tipping,” says Maloney, 28, meaning less automatic and not as generous. She has become a spokeswoman for a group called Tips Are Wages, appearing in the Seattle Times, KIRO Radio, and other local media to argue for a carve-out that keeps tipped workers at a lower minimum. “I have built a life around the current model of tipping,” she says. …

Restaurants have warned they might boost menu prices as much as 25 percent or force servers to share more of their tips with cooks, dishwashers, and other back-of-the-house staff. …

Kshama Sawant, a socialist elected to the council on her own $15 pledge, calls those suggestions “fear mongering” and says people who cling to tips miss the point. “We don’t want any worker to be beholden to the mood of the customer on any given day,” she says.

Well. So much for the “service” industry.

I would estimate that Seattle will eventually come to regret this decision in the long run, but hey, that’s what federalism and local governance are for, I suppose — a notion that desperate Democrats in Washington are currently refusing to grasp.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: minimumwage; seattle

1 posted on 05/02/2014 7:26:32 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Seattle will not be the only place where lemmings flock to the polls to vote themselves a raise if it gets on the ballot.


2 posted on 05/02/2014 7:29:05 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: SeekAndFind

It won’t be long before only “the beautiful people” will be able to afford eating at McDonalds.


3 posted on 05/02/2014 7:29:51 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Obama's smidgens are coming home to roost.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Sounds awesome but why are they aiming so low?

Make it 50 bucks/hr and everybody will be really well off!


4 posted on 05/02/2014 7:30:13 AM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: SeekAndFind

will be interesting to see how many jobs are lost in Seattle as a result of this.

I know the liberal view is that, if you oppose minimum wage increases, then you hate the working poor. This is the narrative we’re up against.

But, is a job paying $10 an hour better than having no job at all, if your job isn’t worth $15 an hour to pay someone to do the tasks you do?

Maybe the liberals would actually like to see more people lose jobs, then be on public assistance, and vote Democrat, as Democrats will continue to increase public assistance benefits. And the liberals will blame job losses on greedy businessmen, not on business conditions which don’t support such a high minimum wage.


5 posted on 05/02/2014 7:30:36 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: SeekAndFind

And after businesses close up shop and more people are on the street the ONLY reason it won’t be rescinded is EGO


6 posted on 05/02/2014 7:32:46 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch (http://thegatwickview.tumblr.com/ http://thepurginglutheran.tumblr.com/)
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To: SeekAndFind

Gotta give the down and outers that wage so that they can afford to take May 1 off to riot.


7 posted on 05/02/2014 7:32:48 AM PDT by CedarDave (CNN: The "Crisis News Channel" - all Flight 370 hysteria and global warming blather, all the time.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Right... and they’ll have to call ahead for reservations, too!


8 posted on 05/02/2014 7:35:29 AM PDT by SMARTY ("When you blame others, you give up your power to change." Robert Anthony)
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9 posted on 05/02/2014 7:37:03 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: SeekAndFind

Isn’t it great that we have different “crucibles of democracy” in the US where others can make mistakes and the others can stay far away. I likely won’t get within a thousand miles of Seattle, and now I have even more reasons to stay away. I would prefer, though that they make the minimum wage even higher. $15 in a large city is still not a “living wage”. $75 per hour might be enough to drive every one out and we could have another Detroit.


10 posted on 05/02/2014 7:37:54 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (The Stone Age didn’t end because we ran out of stones)
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To: SeekAndFind
I wish they would go to $25, as it would magnify and hasten the job killing effects for everyone to clearly see.

I suspect that many service industry companies will no locate outside of the Seattle and conduct “service calls”.

11 posted on 05/02/2014 7:41:18 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I think this is great. Lets try it and see what happens. My guess is that they will then need to raise taxes on greedy business owners to help the newly unemployed while robots take your order at McDonald’s.


12 posted on 05/02/2014 7:48:53 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (I sooooo miss America!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Have they thought about the fact that Starbucks will have to raise their price on a cup of mud?


13 posted on 05/02/2014 7:51:52 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Malaysia Flight MH370 Black Box signals reported in Bermuda Triangle)
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You mean vote the union goons a raise. People will just be voting themselves unemployed.


14 posted on 05/02/2014 7:55:55 AM PDT by r0tten
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The only reason people eat at Mickey D’s is because it’s cheap. I can roll a nickel down the street and hit 10 better burger joints. When Mickey D’s burgers start costing as much as what the gourmet joints charge, they no longer serve a purpose.

I’m not spending $6 on a sloppily put together burger served to me by someone with zero personality and even less customer service skills. These people are paid to press a picture of some food on a touch screen. And don’t hand them a coupon. You’ll turn their world upside down.

I swear monkeys could do the same job if we didn’t have to worry about sanitation issues. But then again, we still have to worry about sanitation issues.


15 posted on 05/02/2014 7:55:55 AM PDT by r0tten
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To: Dilbert San Diego

“Maybe the liberals would actually like to see more people lose jobs, then be on public assistance, and vote Democrat”

Maybe?

Maybe????

:-)


16 posted on 05/02/2014 7:59:47 AM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, deport all illegal aliens, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
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Someone please explain to me why a burger flipper deserves to make as much as a Nurse’s Assistant, Computer Help Desk Technician, Dental Assistant, etc? These jobs take at least a year of formal education.

So guess what happens when the Dental Assistant is making the same as a burger flipper? They’ll probably get pissed off and want to unionize...


17 posted on 05/02/2014 8:07:02 AM PDT by r0tten
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To: SeekAndFind

Detroit part deux.


18 posted on 05/02/2014 8:07:48 AM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: SeekAndFind

It is hardly fair to demand that only workers who receive the minimum wage earn this. All citizens who do not make above this wage, working or not, must be guaranteed such an income.

The anachronistic idea that wages and labor must be intertwined needs to be jettisoned as the discriminatory practice it is. We don’t want to force people to engage in work that keeps them from pursuing their innermost desire. Even if that innermost desire involves explosive chemicals and unsavory associates.

It is the primary function of our elected officials to make sure we have lives of comfort, security, and equality. Equality not just in opportunity but in outcome. I wish some people would grasp that and stop going on about liberty, education, morality, and hard work.

Embrace a new vision for the People’s Cooperative of Seattle now.


19 posted on 05/02/2014 8:08:02 AM PDT by lastchance ("Nisi credideritis, non intelligetis" St. Augustine)
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To: SampleMan
I wish they would go to $25, as it would magnify and hasten the job killing effects for everyone to clearly see.

Well at least the people who serve up the food in the sup lines will be making a "living wage". The rest can just wait their turn and be thankful to the government for the free grog.

20 posted on 05/02/2014 8:09:40 AM PDT by usurper (Liberals GET OFF MY LAWN)
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To: SeekAndFind

This will go the same way as the public bathrooms that were placed in the parks and the monorail extension.


21 posted on 05/02/2014 8:12:19 AM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Seattle the new Greece.


22 posted on 05/02/2014 8:15:53 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: SeekAndFind

Seattle sounding like Detroit.


23 posted on 05/02/2014 8:20:57 AM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

I lived on Seattle’s east side for 45 years. I moved to central KY three years ago. The difference in the physical appearance of people between the two places is almost a tangible observation - and a great deal of it is just how many really fat people there are here and, even more significantly, how few HWP people there are here.

That and the quality of the cars...


24 posted on 05/02/2014 8:22:14 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: Dilbert San Diego

It will have a big inflationary impact on prices locally.


25 posted on 05/02/2014 8:23:01 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m all for stupidity at the local level.

But why stop there? Shouldn’t everyone live like the 1%? Make it $1000/hr.


26 posted on 05/02/2014 8:26:40 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: SeekAndFind
What a bunch of little people trying hard to complete little thoughts.

Why not $150.00 per hour?

If you are going to do something, do it right!

27 posted on 05/02/2014 8:44:06 AM PDT by stevem
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To: stevem

RE: Why not $150.00 per hour?

Because most office workers will quit their jobs to apply to become Starbuck baristas.


28 posted on 05/02/2014 8:49:39 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
RE: But why stop there? Shouldn’t everyone live like the 1%? Make it $1000/hr.

Here is the place where almost everyone is a billionaire but no one can afford anything...

29 posted on 05/02/2014 8:51:37 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Instead of $15 per hour they should enact a ‘living wage rate’.

Then, by accompanying law, each month, the actual dollar amount paid to minimum wage earners could be adjusted to reflect the actual required ‘living wage’.

Problem solved.


30 posted on 05/02/2014 8:52:00 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Want to keep your doctor? Remove your Democrat Senator.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I was informed, some unrecorded number of years ago, that the federal government has authority to set private sector wages only during a declared state of emergency.
However, the joy that chief executives derive from thus meddling in the private business economy is so great, almost orgasmic, apparently, that it has become an accepted practice despite the state of emergency having long expired.
But from what source do city mayors derive authority to set wage amounts? Does it exist simply because no one opposes their doing so?


31 posted on 05/02/2014 9:03:21 AM PDT by Elsiejay
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To: cuban leaf

Do you like Kentucky? We live in WA and thinking about different places to retire.


32 posted on 05/02/2014 9:04:51 AM PDT by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: FlingWingFlyer
It won’t be long before only “the beautiful people” will be able to afford eating at McDonalds.

It won't be long before the "beautiful people" will have to drive to a different city for anything.

33 posted on 05/02/2014 9:18:52 AM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Doubling the cost of labor will NOT double the cost of a Big Mac. There will be an increase but no where near double. No hyperbole is needed and it detracts from your no increase position.
34 posted on 05/02/2014 9:23:17 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: ThisLittleLightofMine

We call our place “the garden of eden, but with more ticks”. We have chickens that keep the bugs down and have absolute quiet and privacy. I worried about radar cops every minute behind the wheel in Seattle (when I wasn’t in agonizing trafic, that is). We’ve been here three years and I don’t even think about it, and I have a 125 mile round trip commute every day. But it’s through spectacular scenery on fun twisties and I never tire of it.

Real estate taxes are very low, but there is a state income tax. The climate is spectacular. We get more rain and don’t water our lawns. But the rain comes in storms, not two weeks of drizzle at a time. Rain rarely cancels a picknic. You just run for cover for a few minutes and when it’s done, go back out and finish your softball game in the sun.

Our place: http://s409.photobucket.com/user/robbbb4/slideshow/Kentucky%20home


35 posted on 05/02/2014 9:33:58 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: SeekAndFind

For me the real question is this:

Are the Current Union contracts, both government and Private, based on the Minimum wage?

If so then we might see the hand manipulating the Council. Higher union wages because of the rise in the Minimum wage translates to more money going to the union from dues. That also means more money going into the Democrat coffers.

Who loses? Everyone else...


36 posted on 05/02/2014 9:48:20 AM PDT by The Working Man
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To: SeekAndFind

My my. The progressives (aka the communists) have an “agenda” to enact.

Reality be damned.

This will turn out well, just like all their other schemes.

Couldn’t happen to a nicer, Lenin-worshipping city.


37 posted on 05/02/2014 9:49:46 AM PDT by mojito (Zero, our Nero.)
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To: SeekAndFind

the results will be hilarious


38 posted on 05/02/2014 10:00:07 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

the end of job-lock and the economic stimulus of welfare -

lol


39 posted on 05/02/2014 10:01:38 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: r0tten
So guess what happens when the Dental Assistant is making the same as a burger flipper? They’ll probably get pissed off and want to unionize...

I have a kid who's a Nursing Assistant and the Purple Shirted Thugs are after her night and day to sign a union card.


40 posted on 05/02/2014 10:52:49 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: GeronL

“Job Lock” at McDonalds? HA!

Ask the Manager of any of those places, and he’ll tell you the happiest day of his life would be if he could somehow cut his turnover to under 87%.


41 posted on 05/02/2014 10:54:04 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: SampleMan

I suspect that many service industry companies will now locate outside of the Seattle and conduct “service calls”.<<

Yup!...and the service calls will be performed by $8 dollar an hour illegal aliens ....


42 posted on 05/02/2014 1:10:46 PM PDT by M-cubed
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