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GOVERNMENT SCHOOL "INDOCTRINATION" CENTERS
Vanity | 5/2/2014 | Dick Bachert

Posted on 05/02/2014 8:25:12 AM PDT by Dick Bachert

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This is especially for you parents who have your most precious possessions (your KIDS) in government schools and then scrimp and save to send them to allegedly top notch colleges and universities.  This radical leftist pictured below is the poster girl for the vast majority of those who "teach" (read that "indoctrinate") in those places.  Many of us have understood their intentions for a long time.

  The left has now grown so bold that they no longer must conceal their takeover of the educational system here. 

Then you are puzzled when your kids come out hating you and the values that afforded them their "education".

Dr. Gary North and others reminded us decades ago that those who wish to undermine and conquer a culture must “capture the robes”. A traditional symbol of authority figures is the robe worn by clergy, judges, academics, etc. Look around and ask yourself if the world you knew as a child has shifted to the left. You don't have to look too hard, do you?

Let me put this into concrete, real world terms:  As you read this, these people are indoctrinating millions of new little socialists who will someday VOTE – and worse, get themselves into positions of power over you and yours.  If you thought Obama was a destructive and dangerous fool, you're going to LOVE what comes next!

If the few remaining sensible Americans don't get a handle on THAT problem, it will get very ugly here.

“When an opponent declares, ‘I will not come over to your side,’ I calmly say, ‘Your child belongs to us already... What are you? You will pass on. Your descendants, however, now stand in the new camp. In a short time they will know nothing else but this new community’."

Adolph Hitler Speech November 1933



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: blackkk; freedom; leftists; melissaharrisperry; tulaneuniversity; values
FRiends, if we don't get down into the gears of this so-called "educational system", we'll NEVER turn things around here. Bottom line: You will live as a slave to the utopian state these elitist idiots are building around us as we slumber or watch "American Idol".

You've been warned!

1 posted on 05/02/2014 8:25:12 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: Dick Bachert

My business partner stated that he spent over $100,000 to send his daughters to UT Austin to become flaming liberals. They have no marketable job skills as a result and are generally worthless.


2 posted on 05/02/2014 8:29:04 AM PDT by TStro (Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.)
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To: Dick Bachert

Just being trained for the slave labor market;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMhURei8N6Q


3 posted on 05/02/2014 8:30:53 AM PDT by maine yankee (I got my Governor at 'Marden's')
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To: Dick Bachert

The Hitler quote sort of reminds me of Trayvon Martin’s former girl friend declaring, something to the effect, “You is Old School. I is New School.”


4 posted on 05/02/2014 8:32:02 AM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel (Have a wonderful day!)
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To: MIchaelTArchangel

Ooooo... that is soooo racist! :-)


5 posted on 05/02/2014 8:33:12 AM PDT by Dick Bachert (Ignorance is NOT BLISS. It is the ROAD TO SERFDOM! We're on a ROAD TRIP!!)
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To: TStro

TStro, I suspect your friend’s daughters were already worthless at age 18. It just became more apparent at age 22.


6 posted on 05/02/2014 8:33:12 AM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel (Have a wonderful day!)
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To: MIchaelTArchangel
TStro, I suspect your friend’s daughters were already worthless at age 18. It just became more apparent at age 22.

and their conservative parents let this happen by sending their children to government school day after day, year after year for at least 13 years, just like the overwhelming majority of all conservative American parents...

7 posted on 05/02/2014 8:37:54 AM PDT by latina4dubya (when i have money i buy books... if i have anything left, i buy 6-inch heels and a bottle of wine...)
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To: Dick Bachert

Has been for years. Ever since the Department of Education was established. Until that is buried, along with other departments and a downsizing of the federal government, it will just continue to get worse. My guess is, at least 50% of our population is already brainwashed and not capable of understanding decency and truth. Sad, as well as very dangerous for our country.


8 posted on 05/02/2014 8:40:29 AM PDT by mulligan (I)
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To: Dick Bachert

Gotta get some meds for an ill friend, but I’ll post on this as this issue was raised at CATI Institute just before Newt’s Contract With America swept the election. Nothing came of it because the Pubbies didn’t have a super majority and the commies - oops, Democrats, could block cutting agencies.

Forget DC -get on the school boards, get on the text book committees.

Ride those commies into the ground with spurs!

Every year, a graduating class slouches across the stage with a diploma in their sweaty paws and they can’t read it in far too many cases.

Teachers took those salaries knowing they could not educate those students - can we say “improper enrichment”? How about “fraud”?

Sue them for every thing they own, and don’t forget their pensions, bennies, all the unearned goodies.


9 posted on 05/02/2014 8:42:06 AM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est - because of what Islam is and because of what Muslims do.)
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To: latina4dubya

Are there even such things as “conservative private schools?”

We don’t all have 100’s of 100’s of thousands to send our kids to private schools and we already pay ridiculous property taxes for those public schools.

While homeschooling is a great idea in theory, we have to work to pay our mortgage and taxes, so...

It easy to say, but when the very schools and system that is put in place to make life livable for us , and that we already pay for becomes a non-option, well, then we really don’t have ANY options at all in any practicality. That obviously isn’t real for most normal people, so we have no choice but to send our kids there. It is sad, but not something most middle class families can overcome.

I would consider less expensive Catholic school, but I hear those are pretty damn liberal now-a-days, too.


10 posted on 05/02/2014 8:44:14 AM PDT by Individual Rights in NJ (I don't even know what to say anymore...)
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11 posted on 05/02/2014 8:46:47 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Dick Bachert

DB, this is like the Bureau of Land Management, but in our school system.

We ceded the ground (for decades) in our public schools. The socialists moved in and assumed the sale, took posession, and now they presume openly, as you said, to own it.

My tag line has been worn out agreeing with you. Thank you, Dick. The kids need to come home.


12 posted on 05/02/2014 8:50:06 AM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: Individual Rights in NJ
This is for those who believe home schooling is too arduous and time-consuming. It's an excerpt of longer piece I wrote on a case in Georgia.

Patty was ultimately brought to trial under the Georgia Truancy Statutes. Her pro-bono attorney tore the school authorities to shreds and hers has been called THE case that opened the floodgates to home schooling in Georgia. Once they had all the facts, the jury didn’t take long to acquit her. I’m proud to have played a small part in that.

At Patty’s trial, a previously overlooked aspect of the government schools was put into sharp focus for those paying attention: The Director of Instruction for DeKalb County testified that the then current 7 hour school day consisted of an average of approximately 3 hours or less of instruction. At that time, Patty was devoting 4 to 5 hours a day to direct instruction.

He also as much as admitted that the REAL reason they wanted ALL these kids in school was the $3,000.00 per kid per year they then got from the state and federal government. Empty seats = lost funds. As in most things, follow the money.

13 posted on 05/02/2014 8:53:13 AM PDT by Dick Bachert (Ignorance is NOT BLISS. It is the ROAD TO SERFDOM! We're on a ROAD TRIP!!)
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To: Individual Rights in NJ
While homeschooling is a great idea in theory, we have to work to pay our mortgage and taxes, so...

i work and homeschool my sons...

14 posted on 05/02/2014 8:56:13 AM PDT by latina4dubya (when i have money i buy books... if i have anything left, i buy 6-inch heels and a bottle of wine...)
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To: Dick Bachert

In the Washington State schools, they define capitalism as a form of government that has increased poverty.


15 posted on 05/02/2014 9:05:04 AM PDT by dragonblustar ( Psalm 103, Psalm 37:7, Ephesians 6:12)
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To: Dick Bachert
You've been warned!

I've been warning about this for 30 years. Just like now, almost no one's listening. The Left uses public inattention to its own advantage.

16 posted on 05/02/2014 9:05:46 AM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: Dick Bachert

It’s the Department of Re-Education.


17 posted on 05/02/2014 9:07:52 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Nobody owes you a living, so shut up and get back to work...)
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To: Individual Rights in NJ
it is not easy, but you make choices... we determined before we got married that we would homeschool our children... i left a really good career with a good salary when the time came... that money would have been helpful to us... we could have bought nice clothing, new cars, vacations other than camping, movie tickets, the latest play-stations and high-tech toys, or we could have socked it away for retirement, college funds, etc... we did without so we could have options, like not sending our children to government school...

now that they are older, i have gone back to work... they are not done with school, but after i get off work, i spend three hours teaching them... during the day when i am at work, they do the assignments based on what i have taught... there are even times when i am across the country, and in those cases, we skype-school... i know it sounds weird, but i am not kidding...

we skype-schooled yesterday, and i have to tell you--i loved it... to hear my sons discuss the Aeneid is exciting to me... and to listen to them as they debate over whether or not Priam should have given Helen over to Greece, to witness them using not only the logic they have been taught, but to see that their ideas are instilled with the ethics and Christian virtues they have been taught is priceless...

it has not been easy, but it has been worth it... even if i were a bedridden invalid--i would school my sons from my bedroom... we would read books on anything and everything worthy, discuss them, write about them... i would not send them to government school...

18 posted on 05/02/2014 9:12:47 AM PDT by latina4dubya (when i have money i buy books... if i have anything left, i buy 6-inch heels and a bottle of wine...)
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To: latina4dubya

Thank you for doing what EVERY parent should do!

You really should post a piece about your experience. We need to get every kid we can OUT of this corrupt, corrosive system. We’re talking about the leaders of tomorrow!

Those who might be intimidated by the process need to know that there are EXCELLENT faith based course materials out there to guide you through the process.


19 posted on 05/02/2014 9:21:22 AM PDT by Dick Bachert (Ignorance is NOT BLISS. It is the ROAD TO SERFDOM! We're on a ROAD TRIP!!)
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To: Dick Bachert
The following has been posted before, but the quotations are important to an understanding of this subject:

The following is excerpted from an ad series entitled, "Lessons on Liberty," by a Co-Editor of "Our Ageless Constitution" & "Rediscovering the Ideas of Liberty."

The "Lesson" contrasts some of the Founders' "Ideas of Liberty"--ideas America's Founders wished to be taught to rising generations, with the Counterfeit Ideas being promoted in the so-called "public schools" of America for decades.

IDEAS OF LIBERTY:

(from America’s Founders and Presidents)

“The God who gave us life gave us liberty at the same time; the hand of force may destroy, but cannot disjoin them.” (Jefferson - 1774)

“Statesmen may plan and speculate for Liberty, but it is Religion and Morality alone which can establish the principles upon which Freedom can securely stand.” (John Adams - 1775)

“The Sacred Rights of Mankind are not to be rummaged for among old parchments or musty records. They are written, as with a sunbeam, in the whole volume of human nature, by the Hand of the Divinity itself, and can never be erased or obscured by mortal power.” (Alexander Hamilton)

“Without God, there could be no American form of government, nor an American way of life. Recognition of the Supreme Being is the first and the most basic expression of Americanism. Thus the founding fathers saw it, and thus, with God’s help, it will continue to be.” (Dwight Eisenhower)

“The same revolutionary beliefs for which our forebears fought are still at issue around the globe, the belief that the rights of man come not from the generosity of the state but from the hand of God.” (John F. Kennedy - 1961 Inaugural)

“…it is the duty of all nations to acknowledge the providence of Almighty God, to obey his will, to be grateful for his benefits, and humbly implore His protection and favor….”(George Washington)

“Now the virtue which had been infused into the Constitution…and was to give it…the stability and duration to which it was destined, was no other than…those abstract principles…proclaimed in the Declaration of Independence—namely, the self-evident truths of the…unalienable rights of man…the…sovereignty of the people, always subordinate to a rule of right and wrong, and always responsible to the Supreme Ruler of the universe for the rightful exercise of that sovereign…power.” (John Quincy Adams, on the occasion of The Jubilee of the Constitution - 1839)

"Today, across our nation, we see consequences of decades of gross neglect and outright censorship of the Founders’ ideas from textbooks and from our public discourse. We have allowed counterfeit ideas to dominate the public square, and the Founders’ principles have been crowded out. Unwittingly, many teachers and other unknowing officials have participated in the agenda of an unelected mind-controlling elite whose tyrannical actions have robbed generations of Americans from reading or studying the ideas that made America free. Like termites, they have eroded our foundations as effectively as if they had burned the books. Yet, not once have they been willing to call it by its rightful name—censorship. Once, in America, stifling ideas about the Creator and Creator-endowed liberty was considered unthinkable. . . .

"The ideas of liberty must be passed on from generation to generation if liberty is to survive. These ideas, when they are allowed to be examined freely, will prevail, because their appeal is to reason and to the love for liberty that is deep in the human heart. John Adams warned: “The people of America now have the best opportunity and the greatest trust in their hands, that Providence ever committed to so small a number…if they betray their trust, their guilt will merit even greater punishment than other nations have suffered, and the indignation of Heaven.”

COUNTERFEIT IDEAS:

(from some of those whose views have dominated national educational policy)

“The idea of God is the keystone of a perverted society. The true root of liberty, equality and culture is atheism.” (Karl Marx)

Our thinking is enlightened “in the degree in which we cease to depend upon belief in the supernatural.” (John Dewey, father of ‘progressive education’ and 1st President of American Humanist Society)

“…democracy is a human faith and movement, unencumbered by supernatural preconceptions.” (John Childs, a protégé of John Dewey at Columbia)

“…the majority of our youth still hold the values of their parents, and if we do not alter this pattern, if we do not resocialize ourselves to accept change, our society may decay.” (John Goodlad, 1971 Report to President, Schooling for the Future)

“As in 1933, humanists still believe that traditional theism, especially a faith in the prayer-hearing God, who is assumed to love and care for persons, to hear and understand their prayers, and be able to do something about them, is an unproved and outmoded faith.” (Humanist Manifesto II, 1973)

“…the most important factor moving us toward a secular society has been the educational factor. Our schools may not teach Johnny to read properly, but the fact that Johnny is in school until he is sixteen tends to lead toward elimination of religious superstition.” (Paul Blanshard, The Humanist, March-April, 1976)

“It [the Nat’l. Education Association’s publication list] includes the delegitimizing of all authority save that of the state, the degradation of traditional morality and the encouragement of citizens in general and children in particular to despise the rules and customs that make their society a functional democracy. The NEA is drifting into exceedingly dangerous waters, and probably carrying more than a few teachers and pupils with it.” (Chester E. Finn, Jr., Ass’t. Sec. Of Education & Prof. Of Education & Public Policy, Vanderbilt Univ., 1982)

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“Now, my countrymen, if you have been taught doctrines which conflict with the great landmarks of the Declaration of Independence…let me entreat you to come back. Return to the fountains whose waters spring close to the blood of the Revolution.” (Abraham Lincoln)

20 posted on 05/02/2014 9:21:59 AM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: latina4dubya

The churning out of wothless kids has a number of factors, and the liberal schools is only number three.

Number one is the amount of actual time spent with the parents together with the child. Awake not sleeping. Talking or doing something together, not merely in the same house. Time with parents needs to excede time at school or with friends.

Number two is the late age at which young people now shoulder meaningful responsibilities. Kids need to start working by the time they start high school. High grades is not a replacement for work experiences DURING THE DEVELOPMENTAL YEARS.


21 posted on 05/02/2014 9:25:41 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Individual Rights in NJ; GladesGuru

What you both say is true.

I don’t believe we parents have ever wanted to make the hard choices, because we too have been affected by the fallen standards that crept into our schools and society that pushed wealth, performance and success, at the expense of God and family. Like sheep, we bought for 60 years a bill of goods that resulted in today’s collapse of our families and all of our great institutions.

This is, first, a WAR on FAMILIES and CHILDREN, and it needs to be treated as such.

Parents and families need to practically unionize around the right for a classical education and religious liberty, or else go on STRIKE. Anything less dramatic or immediate takes too long and we don’t have the clock on our side.


22 posted on 05/02/2014 9:30:20 AM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: MrEdd
Number one is the amount of actual time spent with the parents together with the child. Awake not sleeping. Talking or doing something together, not merely in the same house. Time with parents needs to excede time at school or with friends.

i think schools is number one... how can the time with parents happen if kids are in school 6-8 hours of the day? and then with both parents working?

23 posted on 05/02/2014 9:49:15 AM PDT by latina4dubya (when i have money i buy books... if i have anything left, i buy 6-inch heels and a bottle of wine...)
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To: Dick Bachert

thank you!


24 posted on 05/02/2014 9:51:18 AM PDT by latina4dubya (when i have money i buy books... if i have anything left, i buy 6-inch heels and a bottle of wine...)
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To: Individual Rights in NJ

I hope you continue to consider homeschooling. It really is a viable alternative.

From your screen name, I am going to assume that you live in New Jersey, one of THE BEST states for homeschoolers.

I live on Long Island, another place with absolutely ridiculous property taxes and allegedly “great” public schools. BAH! We sent our kids to Catholic school anyway. (My oldest graduates from HS in a few weeks, and we now homeschool our youngest.) Take a look around. There might be some good Catholic schools lurking about out there. If you find a parish that offers the Latin Mass AND has a school attached to it, I’m sure you will find that that school will be sufficiently conservative and orthodox.

Good luck. Oh! And if you do decide to give homeschooling a try, take a look at Seton Homeschooling for your curriculum. VERY Catholic. VERY orthodox. VERY conservative.

Regards,


25 posted on 05/02/2014 10:07:20 AM PDT by VermiciousKnid (Sic narro nos totus!)
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To: latina4dubya
One parent up with the kid an hour before school
One parent there when the kid gets home or by five. Up doing things with the kid until ten. Bedtime. Rinse. Repeat.

It isn't rocket science. It doesn't take special skills.
The only requirement to accomplish this, is to care.

If you don't give a damn, and want to prioritize going about your day unaccompanied by your child then of course you can think up all kinds of excuses. They won't really stand up to scrutiny though.

26 posted on 05/02/2014 10:15:02 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: VermiciousKnid

I just resurrected this previously lost item from my word directory. It might help some folks what’s really at work here vis-a-vis government schools:

A story that plays into where we are now bears recitation. I’m working from memory here and some of the details may not be precisely correct but the take away message has stuck with me all these years.

In August, 1977, a small church in Louisville, Nebraska – Faith Baptist – was raided by armed agents of the state Department of Education for running a Christian school.

The ostensible reason for the raid was that they were NOT adhering to the state “requirement” that ALL schools and teachers be “certified” by the state. A judge issued an order that the school be closed. They remained open and the raid ensued. The teachers and 17 students children were terrorized as they were held at gunpoint on the floor. The pastor, one Everett Sileven, was arrested and held in jail for some time.

Public pressure forced his release and he began a crusade the effects of which are still felt today in the Christian and home school communities.

Here’s the take away message about which I have the clearest memory: Pastor Sileven appeared on a TV debate program to defend his church school. Also there was an official of the Nebraska Department of Education.

At one point, either the moderator or Pastor Siliven turned to the school bureaucrat and asked the real reason why the state had such a problem with their small church school?

Without missing a beat, through a sneer anyone who has visited the DMV will recognize, the bureaucrat declared (and I’m paraphrasing):
“Because you are denying the state schools needed money. And because you are educating children outside the public school system, in the world we’re designing for the future, THEY WON’T FIT IN!”

Dwell on those last 4 words for a moment.

If you’re curious about just what that world they were designing might look like, LOOK AROUND.
You’re living in it!!


27 posted on 05/02/2014 10:20:49 AM PDT by Dick Bachert (Ignorance is NOT BLISS. It is the ROAD TO SERFDOM! We're on a ROAD TRIP!!)
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To: MrEdd

To conservatives generally: If you care, your child isn’t in a government indoctrination/child abuse center. And, no, your government schools aren’t “different”.


28 posted on 05/02/2014 10:30:10 AM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: Individual Rights in NJ

It is a matter of priorities. I know single moms who find ways to homeschool. The government schools WERE NOT put in place to make life livable for you. They were created to give various groups a monopoly on the indoctrination of children.

Conservatives sure are addicted to their welfare education habit. We don’t have options when we love our “lifestyle” too much.


29 posted on 05/02/2014 10:34:55 AM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: latina4dubya

Thanks for confronting the “I don’t have the time/money” lie. Conservatives love welfare education because it means they get “free” daycare and can have bigger houses, newer cars, etc.


30 posted on 05/02/2014 10:37:40 AM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: VermiciousKnid

Good information.

Many of the HS’ers on this thread are lucky to have the opportunities and agreed feelings with their respective spouses that they do. Good for them.

I tend to agree the answer is more along the lines taking control of the public schools back and making sure they provide a classical education. When someone rips me off in other services I don’t take the loss and then do it myself from scratch- I refuse payment, or insist the job gets done right. We shouldn’t have to do that with schools either.


31 posted on 05/02/2014 10:39:26 AM PDT by Individual Rights in NJ (I don't even know what to say anymore...)
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To: achilles2000

For those considering HOME SCHOOLING, go here to find the statutes applicable in your state:

http://www.hslda.org/laws/default.asp


32 posted on 05/02/2014 10:43:50 AM PDT by Dick Bachert (Ignorance is NOT BLISS. It is the ROAD TO SERFDOM! We're on a ROAD TRIP!!)
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To: Dick Bachert

That is a terrifying story, DB. Horrifying, in fact.

I am surprised, though, that this incident took place in Nebraska. I thought they had more sense out there.

Regards,


33 posted on 05/02/2014 2:00:03 PM PDT by VermiciousKnid (Sic narro nos totus!)
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To: Individual Rights in NJ

Please don’t take this reply as an attack on you. I honestly wish you all the luck in the world in your endeavor to take back your public school (I really do).

Growing up as a conservative in NYC, I was often a lone voice in the wilderness. I know what it is to speak out against the liberal agenda with NO support anywhere. And I continue to do so even now. Sadly, my efforts have been in vain.

I have much more to say on this subject, but will refrain from doing so here so as not to bore the audience. In the meantime, I hope you have MUCH better luck than I did.

Regards,


34 posted on 05/02/2014 2:17:19 PM PDT by VermiciousKnid (Sic narro nos totus!)
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