Skip to comments.Ready for Hillary’s Running Mate? (No, REally. Seriesly. Beelzabubba)
Posted on 05/02/2014 9:05:34 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
Hillary Clintons running mate.
The ideal candidate would be someone clearly equipped by experience to handle the presidency at a moments notice, and who was held in high esteem by the public; maybe even someone who exemplified a time when Americans felt better about their countrys prospects.
By that measure, there is at first glance one obvious choice: Bill Clinton.
He would be by far the most clearly qualified candidate for the job. More than two-thirds of Americans look on him favorably, and last year, 55 percent told Gallup they saw Clinton as an outstanding or above-average president.
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R U ready for the 5th and 6th Terms of a Clintonian-run administration?
Bubba can’t be vice president. His 2 terms as president disqualify him.
Then billary would be dead or incapacitated or declared incompetent and unfit for office within a week of January 21, 2017.
Its Hilary’s election to lose.
Those who openly oppose here will be severely dealt with.
That’s not a threat...........its a fact.
There you go citing the US Consitution-— we all know that only applies to conservatives.
Section 1. No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. But this article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President when this article was proposed by the Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term.
Section 2. This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by the legislatures of three-fourths of the several states within seven years from the date of its submission to the states by the Congress.
He wouldn’t be elected President though, it says nothing about VP up there or coming into office other than an election. He wouldn’t be able to run again, but this could work no problem.
“Bubba cant be vice president. His 2 terms as president disqualify him.”
Rules? They don’t need no stinking rules. . . .
That’s the letter-of-the-law argument my college constitutional law professor used. I don’t like it, as one can clearly tell what the intent of the authors was, but I concede that they should’ve probably chosen their words more carefully when building the amendment.
“and last year, 55 percent told Gallup they saw Clinton as an outstanding or above-average president.”
That would appear to be conclusive proof that a clear majority of Americans don’t have the brains to pour water out of a boot if the directions were printed on the heel.
My non-lawyer reading of this is that Bill could be elected VP, and if Hillary! were to leave office before the end of her term, that Bill could take over as President for the remainder of the term, but not run for election to serve beyond that term.
Having said that, it wouldn't make sense. What Hillary! would need is a VP who is a buffoon who has never run anything, such as is the present VP, so that there would be a disincentive to remove her from office, just as the present VP is a disincentive to remove the present President from office. There are numerous options, any of which would have the added bonus of allowing Hillary! to look centrist by comparison: Al Franken, Elizabeth Warren, Mary Landrieu, Chuck Schumer all come to mind, though there would be other options of course. OTOH, there are quite a few people--not frequenters of here, of course--who, given the particular set of circumstances, would rather have Hillary! removed from office and replaced with "elder statesman" Bill, which would not be the case if the alternative were, e.g., Franken or Landrieu.
Doesn’t the Constitution also require that the President and the VP be from different States?
I’ll do some checking...
Nope. Apparently not. Per Snopes, the requirement is that each Elector will vote for two candidates (one for each office), and at least one of them must be from a State other than the Elector’s own.
Cleared that up... Sorry for the confusion.
Sounds like a disqualifier to me.
I don’t think it would be legal for Billy to be VP. They would have to change the law. On the other hand Chelsea could run as VP. Wouldn’t that ge great?
It does not require that the President and Vice-President be from different states, however it requires the electors to vote for either a President or a Vice-President that is not from their state.
Otherwise, no deal.
In case anyone is wondering, as I was.....
1: No person shall be ELECTED to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was ELECTED President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once.
In this case Bill Clinton will be elected to the office of VICE President. Were he to succeed to the presidency, again he was not ELECTED President. He could not run for reelection after that term expired.
The Constitution, Article I, Section 3:
The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two thirds of the Members present.
Judgment in Cases of Impeachments shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust, or Profit under the United States, but THE PARTY CONVICTED shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment, and Punishment, according to Law.
Bill Clinton while impeached, was never CONVICTED. Thus the disqualification does not apply to him.
You are correct see 22
55 percent told Gallup they saw Clinton as an outstanding or above-average president.
By Gallup, do you mean the horses he slept with?
This is bull, the military hates him just as much as he hates them.
Oh but thanks for the photo, it will make great target practice.
Bill Buckley had the crazy notion that Barry Goldwater could win the Presidency if he picked Ike as his VP. Of course Ike was excluded by the 12th amendment.
Anyway there is an obvious alternative for the Democrats--run Jimmy Carter for VP. He is eligible.
Even if Bill Clinton were not ineligible for the Vice Presidency, if he was on the ticket, the electors from New York could not vote for him unless he established residency in a different state than Hillary. Remember how Dick Cheney had to move back to Wyoming in 2000 so that the Texas electors could vote for him along with George W. Bush.
Twelfth Amendment: “But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.” Bill Clinton is constitutionally ineligible to the office of President having served two terms already.
Perhaps they did choose their words more carefully when drafting it the first time. But was the language that was passed.
I pretty much think it will be DeVal Patrick or Cory Booker.
Those will fire up the entitlement army as the community organizers talk about (wink wink) Hillary’s failing health.
The literal language is, "No person SHALL BE ELECTED to the office of President more than twice, etc, etc, etc"
It would have been very easy to amend Article II to create a new class of ineligibility to the office, but this was not done.
Since the language of Amendment XII pertains to ELIGIBILITY ("But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States") and since the criteria for eligibility to SERVE have not been amended (only the criteria for eligibility to be ELECTED - you can ascend to the office in other ways), I think WJC is clearly eligible to run for VP, presuming he establishes residency in a state other than New York.
That depends on what the meaning of is, is.
I say he is NOT "ineligible to the office". He is ineligible TO BE ELECTED to the office.
Say he were Speaker of the House, and the President and VP were killed, for example. Where does XXII say he could not arrive in the office OTHER THAN BY ELECTION?
It doesn't, that's where.
That's quite a splitting of hairs.
That's exactly right. He could finish her term if she dies. Bill Clinton is completely eligible to be Vice President.
Not sure Hillary would want him around, but they would win in a landslide.
Not true, not in the Post-Constitutional America we are in. Obama will simply pen an Executive Order.
We are discussing the Xlintons, no?
I’m pulling for Grayson or Ellison as Hil’s other half.. :-)