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Christians Slam Palin Over Waterboarding Baptism Comment
NewsMax ^ | 5/1/14 | Drew MacKenzie

Posted on 05/02/2014 9:50:12 AM PDT by Impala64ssa

ormer Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin has come under fire from Catholics and other Christians over her "blasphemous" and "sacrilegious" comments comparing waterboarding to baptism.

The 2008 Republican candidate for vice president said at a National Rifle Association convention in Indianapolis over the weekend that if she were in charge, "waterboarding is how we'd baptize terrorists."

Edward Peters, a professor on canon law at Sacred Heart Major Seminary in Detroit, attacked Palin in his blog, "In the Light of the Law," saying that even if "her words only meet the lesser standard of 'irreverence' toward God or holy things, they were wrong to utter and wrong to applaud."

He continued, "Whether one is a left-wing looney who becomes unhinged upon simply seeing this woman who loves her family and her country or is a right-wing yahoo who looks on her as some sort of high priestess of traditional values, Sarah Palin's statement … should shock the conscience.

"I think Palin's guardian angel wept at her comparing baptism to waterboarding."

Deacon Ed Kandra, of the Brooklyn diocese in New York, pointed out on the website Patheos that "equating torture with baptism is extremely offensive — and, in fact, blasphemous."

Kandra said that waterboarding "degrades human life" and that Palin "made a mockery of the foundational sacrament of our faith."

He wrote, "As someone who calls herself 'pro-life,' she should understand that we are called to respect life in all its forms, at all times, from conception to natural death. Pro-life Americans should be appalled."

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These same religious organizantions will issue scathing criticisms against the Ft. Collins, Co school district for substituting allah for G-D in the pledge of allegiance in 3...2...1....(crickets chirping)
1 posted on 05/02/2014 9:50:13 AM PDT by Impala64ssa
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To: Impala64ssa
Christians Slam Palin Over Waterboarding Baptism Comment

Wow, all of them?
2 posted on 05/02/2014 9:51:16 AM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: Impala64ssa

Not this Christian.

It was a joke. I guess these folks with a cattle prod parked on their person didn’t realize that fact.


3 posted on 05/02/2014 9:53:01 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Impala64ssa

LOL. She hasn’t run for anything or been in politics for years yet the MSM still lets her rent space in their heads.


4 posted on 05/02/2014 9:53:18 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: Impala64ssa

These ‘Christians” should be very thankful that God is in charge and not them.


5 posted on 05/02/2014 9:54:43 AM PDT by JPG (Yes We Can morphs into Make It Hurt.)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

She doesn’t even have to pay rent - they let her have it for free.


6 posted on 05/02/2014 9:56:45 AM PDT by tgusa (gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger .......)
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To: Impala64ssa
From the Crusades to this.

From Christian warrior to to hand-wringing, limp-wristed sophist.

Beyond pathetic.

7 posted on 05/02/2014 9:57:11 AM PDT by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: andyk

I think most Christians understand that Palin was joking and are not at all offended by the use of the term “baptism” that way.

Other people use the term “baptism by fire” in a non-religious way and nobody gets their panties in a wad over it.


8 posted on 05/02/2014 9:57:13 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: andyk

I applaud her.

“As someone who calls herself ‘pro-life,’ she should understand that we are called to respect life in all its forms, at all times, from conception to natural death. Pro-life Americans should be appalled.”

I respect life forms that are not murderous, low-life, raping, scum sucking children of pigs.


9 posted on 05/02/2014 9:58:10 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Impala64ssa
Liberal Christians like other liberals apparently also lack a sense of humor.
Get off the offense wagon please. It does not become us.

10 posted on 05/02/2014 9:59:08 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: Impala64ssa

I like Palin. I like her tongue and cheek comment. I am a retired Pastor with 40 years. And I am not offended AT all but what she said.
Go Lady Griz^5
Freegards
LEX


11 posted on 05/02/2014 9:59:36 AM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: Impala64ssa

Nonsense.

Hey Catholics and Christians - better wake up and confront the real issues of our time, namely, Christian persecution right here in the good ol’ USA.


12 posted on 05/02/2014 9:59:54 AM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: tgusa

Who would pay for it? Location, location, location!


13 posted on 05/02/2014 10:00:04 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Wagglebee please come home we miss you! ~ Þ)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard
LOL. She hasn’t run for anything or been in politics for years yet the MSM still lets her rent space in their heads.

She never has to pay. It's "rent-free".
14 posted on 05/02/2014 10:00:16 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Impala64ssa

Same Christians that support criminal immigrants!


15 posted on 05/02/2014 10:01:02 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Impala64ssa

Still trying to bring down Palin any way they can. Ain’t gonna work. If you can’t understand the context of the statement STFU!


16 posted on 05/02/2014 10:01:53 AM PDT by griswold3 (I was born here in America. I will die here in a third world country. Obama succeeded.)
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To: Impala64ssa

Liberals slam Palin over waterboard comment. No one else.


17 posted on 05/02/2014 10:02:03 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: BitWielder1
Liberal Christians...

Liberal in their care and concern for others. Otherwise, politically, it's an oxymoron.
18 posted on 05/02/2014 10:02:26 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Impala64ssa

Some people, some so-called Christians can’t ever grow up.


19 posted on 05/02/2014 10:03:29 AM PDT by mulligan (I)
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To: Impala64ssa
Sarah Palin has come under fire from Catholics and other Christians over her "blasphemous" and "sacrilegious" comments comparing waterboarding to baptism.

Reminds me of the "Bell Book, and Candle" days in Catholicism.

20 posted on 05/02/2014 10:03:33 AM PDT by OldNavyVet (Looking forward to November elections.)
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To: Impala64ssa

I guess these same “Christians” have no problem with Obama DRONING people


21 posted on 05/02/2014 10:04:14 AM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Impala64ssa

I didn’t realize some group out there had taken the role of speaking for me.

Get a sense of humor, you dolts.


22 posted on 05/02/2014 10:05:25 AM PDT by ilgipper
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To: Impala64ssa

I never assume that so called “Christian leaders” are actually Christians…..


23 posted on 05/02/2014 10:06:01 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: andyk

Democrats are false christians who support infanticide and homosexuality. Yet they feel superior to judge others. The story is a fabrucated lie.


24 posted on 05/02/2014 10:07:03 AM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: Impala64ssa

She did not “compare” baptism to waterboarding, she used “baptism” in a way commonly done for decades, i.e., as an analogy for doing something for the first time, or being exposed to something for the first time, or being initiated into something, as in the common phrase “baptism under fire.”


25 posted on 05/02/2014 10:08:23 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Impala64ssa

I hope these “Christians” put as much effort into saving their churches from collapse from the left, because they mostly have been sucking some serious holy water at stopping that.


26 posted on 05/02/2014 10:09:06 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: Impala64ssa

these tards do know it was a joke right??


27 posted on 05/02/2014 10:09:11 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Impala64ssa

Where were they when they filmed The Little Colonel baptism scene with Henry Clay who got dunked until he really repented? ;-)


28 posted on 05/02/2014 10:09:34 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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29 posted on 05/02/2014 10:09:59 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Impala64ssa

I expected better from NewsMax. They quote two liberal Christians and then post a headline that suggests ALL Christians are slamming Palin?


30 posted on 05/02/2014 10:10:58 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Impala64ssa
Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin has come under fire from Catholics and other Christians over her "blasphemous" and "sacrilegious" comments comparing waterboarding to baptism....

Edward Peters, a professor on canon law at Sacred Heart Major Seminary
Deacon Ed Kandra, of the Brooklyn diocese in New York
Rod Dreher, editor of The American Conservative
Joe Carter of The Gospel Coalition
Mollie Hemingway, a Lutheran
James Arnold, editor of Alliance Alert at Alliance Defending Freedom

....The [Catholic News Agency] reported that although Palin was baptized Catholic, she was raised to attend a nondenominational ecclesial community.

I wonder how many of them supported her in 2008?

31 posted on 05/02/2014 10:12:03 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: Sarah Barracuda
"I guess these same “Christians” have no problem with Obama DRONING people"

People say things like "I'm going to nuke those ants on my patio" or "I'm married to my job" or "He threw a Hail Mary pass" or "They are joined at the hip" and nobody beats an eyelash. Nor should they.
32 posted on 05/02/2014 10:12:51 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: tgusa

She often ends a speaking tour by leaving the media and the opposition with something to chew on. She did the same on the last day of her NE tour with the Paul Revere comment. The media chews on these remarks for weeks, driving home the point that she was trying to make, that if she were in charge that she would be a tough and principled leader.

The remark itself was heard by only a few thousand but the media has spread it far and wide. Sarah’s new “likes” on Facebook increased 27.5% over the previous week as a result.

When they realize that the remark is a net gain for Palin, then they clothe their criticism in choir robes hoping to pry away the most fervently religious supporters who the detractors actually detest the most.


33 posted on 05/02/2014 10:15:50 AM PDT by excopconservative
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To: Impala64ssa

The word baptism is at times used as a metaphor for someone’s introduction into some reality. “Baptism by fire.” The word has meaning other than the Christian ritual.

Palin was clearly using the word as a metaphor, unless these whiners and cheap shot artists want to make the case that she actually mean to baptise terrorists into the Christian faith, which cannot be done except through acceptance by the baptisee.


34 posted on 05/02/2014 10:16:47 AM PDT by Will88
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To: tgusa

Hell, she has a ten year lease!


35 posted on 05/02/2014 10:17:37 AM PDT by JaguarXKE (1973: Reporters investigate All the President's Men. 2013: Reporters ARE all the President's men)
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To: Impala64ssa

So, the religious organization that allow abortion loving Pelosi and Biden take communion condemns Palin. And one is so in touch with the All Mighty that he knows what Palin’s Guardian Angel is thinking.

And the Christian organizations that law down and let the federal government run them over because they’re afraid they’ll loss their tax exempt status condemns Palin.

I say they’re all frauds.


36 posted on 05/02/2014 10:19:33 AM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: Impala64ssa

anyone remember when Morton Downey Jr. baptized the atheist?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6IIkOwd7GY

32:35


37 posted on 05/02/2014 10:19:47 AM PDT by MNDude
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To: DannyTN
I think most Christians understand that Palin was joking and are not at all offended by the use of the term “baptism” that way.

Other people use the term “baptism by fire” in a non-religious way and nobody gets their panties in a wad over it.

Not only "baptism". When Palin and the Tea-party used the word "target", that word was suddenly the one and only military term anyone ever had used in any political discourse. To use the expression "blood libel" related to any non-Jewish person was antisemitism squared. And now, suddenly, no one has ever heard of the term baptism by fire.

These so called intellectuals are turning out to be less than semi-literate.

38 posted on 05/02/2014 10:21:18 AM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: Resolute Conservative

Most of the people commenting haven’t read much of the Bible. Apparently this guy has no idea there were church authorized executions and many wars in the Bible. I didn’t know all Christians and Catholics are called upon to be pacifists.


39 posted on 05/02/2014 10:21:27 AM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: Impala64ssa

Makes me want to ask this sanctimonious ass if he’s ever used a Neti pot. Waterboarding is not torture, except in the eyes of whiny crybabies and lefties.


40 posted on 05/02/2014 10:21:30 AM PDT by redhead (NO GROUND TO THE DEVIL! Remember BENGHAZI!! Use Weaponized Prayer)
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To: Will88
Webster's second definition of baptism:

"an act, experience, or ordeal by which one is purified, sanctified, initiated, or named.

Sarah would initiate the terrorists into US custody by waterboarding. Or however she worded her exact sentences.

This feeding frenzy is a pathetic and ignorant response to what she said.

41 posted on 05/02/2014 10:25:08 AM PDT by Will88
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To: Impala64ssa

What a pantload from a bunch of humorless ninnies


42 posted on 05/02/2014 10:26:00 AM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Norm Lenhart
Not just liberals are offended. Also offended are people who think Baptism is a sacred thing, instituted by and dedicated to You-Know-Who, and don't like to see it profaned--- and it's even worse if Palin thinks the nexus between "baptism" and "torture" is, as her defenders say, "just a joke."

Look, neither Ed Peters nor Deacon Kandra (quoted) are liberals, and as for myself, you may judge as you wish, but the only reason I voted in the 2008 election at all, was to cast my ballot for Sarah Palin and hope for something to providentially knock out McCain. (No a death-wish. Just benign like, say, something to do with his larynx.)

Of course I'll allow her a foot-fault. But if she's smart, she won't do it again.

43 posted on 05/02/2014 10:28:03 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Sanity is the adequate response of the mind to the real thing: adaequatio mentis ad rem.)
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To: Impala64ssa

Remember, HUMOR is under assault. The PC crowd (who have no sense of humor), want to make all humor offensive to someone so that “jokes” will no longer be tolerated.

Crazy you say? Oh, crazy like we would elect a gay (bi-sexual) Muslim, Marxist, born in Kenya, American hating, incompetent as president?


44 posted on 05/02/2014 10:30:38 AM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: Alex Murphy

PDS


45 posted on 05/02/2014 10:30:40 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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To: Impala64ssa

I am a Christian (In The Ministry), and I am not offended by what she said.

The word “Baptize’ comes from the Greek word to “immerse”. It would probably have been more “offensive” if Sarah had used the word “Christened”, but we do that to ships...with champagne, no less!

It is probably TOO strong a word for Waterboarding, since complete immersion is not even employed in the process.


46 posted on 05/02/2014 10:31:07 AM PDT by left that other site (You shall know the Truth, and The Truth Shall Set You Free.)
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To: andyk

http://www.snopes.com/photos/politics/syriamurder.asp

Ask them if they approve of this, just asking.


47 posted on 05/02/2014 10:34:09 AM PDT by Little Bill (EVICT Queen Jean)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

No, just liberals are offended. Whether or not they claim Christianity is besides the point. Some of them may wish to remember the crusaders, Jesus flipping tables in the temple, David and a host of other actions.

Shrinking violet Christians are welcome to believe as they wish. But it does not change the fact that ‘being offended’ at something like this is patently ridiculous. “Baptized” isn’t a word that ‘some’ Christians have exclusive rights to. They should stop acting like it is because the rest of us who subscribe to Christianity do not remotely agree with that interpretation.

Nor will we bow down to some PC definition of it.


48 posted on 05/02/2014 10:37:52 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: Impala64ssa

I’m a catholic and I say waterboarding was the only time these filthy pigs touch water.

Go get em Sarah.


49 posted on 05/02/2014 10:38:25 AM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: Impala64ssa

Wow. Grow up is what comes to mind. If these Christians are not out there raging against the Government smacking other Christians around on a daily basis then please shut up about Palin’s comment...


50 posted on 05/02/2014 10:40:48 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (I am an American - Not a Republican or a Democrat.)
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