Skip to comments.Christians Slam Palin Over Waterboarding Baptism Comment
Posted on 05/02/2014 9:50:12 AM PDT by Impala64ssa
ormer Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin has come under fire from Catholics and other Christians over her "blasphemous" and "sacrilegious" comments comparing waterboarding to baptism.
The 2008 Republican candidate for vice president said at a National Rifle Association convention in Indianapolis over the weekend that if she were in charge, "waterboarding is how we'd baptize terrorists."
Edward Peters, a professor on canon law at Sacred Heart Major Seminary in Detroit, attacked Palin in his blog, "In the Light of the Law," saying that even if "her words only meet the lesser standard of 'irreverence' toward God or holy things, they were wrong to utter and wrong to applaud."
He continued, "Whether one is a left-wing looney who becomes unhinged upon simply seeing this woman who loves her family and her country or is a right-wing yahoo who looks on her as some sort of high priestess of traditional values, Sarah Palin's statement should shock the conscience.
"I think Palin's guardian angel wept at her comparing baptism to waterboarding."
Deacon Ed Kandra, of the Brooklyn diocese in New York, pointed out on the website Patheos that "equating torture with baptism is extremely offensive and, in fact, blasphemous."
Kandra said that waterboarding "degrades human life" and that Palin "made a mockery of the foundational sacrament of our faith."
He wrote, "As someone who calls herself 'pro-life,' she should understand that we are called to respect life in all its forms, at all times, from conception to natural death. Pro-life Americans should be appalled."
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Not this Christian.
It was a joke. I guess these folks with a cattle prod parked on their person didn’t realize that fact.
LOL. She hasn’t run for anything or been in politics for years yet the MSM still lets her rent space in their heads.
These ‘Christians” should be very thankful that God is in charge and not them.
She doesn’t even have to pay rent - they let her have it for free.
From Christian warrior to to hand-wringing, limp-wristed sophist.
I think most Christians understand that Palin was joking and are not at all offended by the use of the term “baptism” that way.
Other people use the term “baptism by fire” in a non-religious way and nobody gets their panties in a wad over it.
I applaud her.
“As someone who calls herself ‘pro-life,’ she should understand that we are called to respect life in all its forms, at all times, from conception to natural death. Pro-life Americans should be appalled.”
I respect life forms that are not murderous, low-life, raping, scum sucking children of pigs.
I like Palin. I like her tongue and cheek comment. I am a retired Pastor with 40 years. And I am not offended AT all but what she said.
Go Lady Griz^5
Hey Catholics and Christians - better wake up and confront the real issues of our time, namely, Christian persecution right here in the good ol’ USA.
Who would pay for it? Location, location, location!
Same Christians that support criminal immigrants!
Still trying to bring down Palin any way they can. Ain’t gonna work. If you can’t understand the context of the statement STFU!
Liberals slam Palin over waterboard comment. No one else.
Some people, some so-called Christians can’t ever grow up.
Reminds me of the "Bell Book, and Candle" days in Catholicism.
I guess these same “Christians” have no problem with Obama DRONING people
I didn’t realize some group out there had taken the role of speaking for me.
Get a sense of humor, you dolts.
I never assume that so called “Christian leaders” are actually Christians ..
Democrats are false christians who support infanticide and homosexuality. Yet they feel superior to judge others. The story is a fabrucated lie.
She did not “compare” baptism to waterboarding, she used “baptism” in a way commonly done for decades, i.e., as an analogy for doing something for the first time, or being exposed to something for the first time, or being initiated into something, as in the common phrase “baptism under fire.”
I hope these “Christians” put as much effort into saving their churches from collapse from the left, because they mostly have been sucking some serious holy water at stopping that.
these tards do know it was a joke right??
Where were they when they filmed The Little Colonel baptism scene with Henry Clay who got dunked until he really repented? ;-)
I expected better from NewsMax. They quote two liberal Christians and then post a headline that suggests ALL Christians are slamming Palin?
Edward Peters, a professor on canon law at Sacred Heart Major Seminary
Deacon Ed Kandra, of the Brooklyn diocese in New York
Rod Dreher, editor of The American Conservative
Joe Carter of The Gospel Coalition
Mollie Hemingway, a Lutheran
James Arnold, editor of Alliance Alert at Alliance Defending Freedom
....The [Catholic News Agency] reported that although Palin was baptized Catholic, she was raised to attend a nondenominational ecclesial community.
I wonder how many of them supported her in 2008?
She often ends a speaking tour by leaving the media and the opposition with something to chew on. She did the same on the last day of her NE tour with the Paul Revere comment. The media chews on these remarks for weeks, driving home the point that she was trying to make, that if she were in charge that she would be a tough and principled leader.
The remark itself was heard by only a few thousand but the media has spread it far and wide. Sarah’s new “likes” on Facebook increased 27.5% over the previous week as a result.
When they realize that the remark is a net gain for Palin, then they clothe their criticism in choir robes hoping to pry away the most fervently religious supporters who the detractors actually detest the most.
The word baptism is at times used as a metaphor for someone’s introduction into some reality. “Baptism by fire.” The word has meaning other than the Christian ritual.
Palin was clearly using the word as a metaphor, unless these whiners and cheap shot artists want to make the case that she actually mean to baptise terrorists into the Christian faith, which cannot be done except through acceptance by the baptisee.
Hell, she has a ten year lease!
So, the religious organization that allow abortion loving Pelosi and Biden take communion condemns Palin. And one is so in touch with the All Mighty that he knows what Palin’s Guardian Angel is thinking.
And the Christian organizations that law down and let the federal government run them over because they’re afraid they’ll loss their tax exempt status condemns Palin.
I say they’re all frauds.
anyone remember when Morton Downey Jr. baptized the atheist?
Other people use the term baptism by fire in a non-religious way and nobody gets their panties in a wad over it.
Not only "baptism". When Palin and the Tea-party used the word "target", that word was suddenly the one and only military term anyone ever had used in any political discourse. To use the expression "blood libel" related to any non-Jewish person was antisemitism squared. And now, suddenly, no one has ever heard of the term baptism by fire.
These so called intellectuals are turning out to be less than semi-literate.
Most of the people commenting haven’t read much of the Bible. Apparently this guy has no idea there were church authorized executions and many wars in the Bible. I didn’t know all Christians and Catholics are called upon to be pacifists.
Makes me want to ask this sanctimonious ass if he’s ever used a Neti pot. Waterboarding is not torture, except in the eyes of whiny crybabies and lefties.
"an act, experience, or ordeal by which one is purified, sanctified, initiated, or named.
Sarah would initiate the terrorists into US custody by waterboarding. Or however she worded her exact sentences.
This feeding frenzy is a pathetic and ignorant response to what she said.
What a pantload from a bunch of humorless ninnies
Look, neither Ed Peters nor Deacon Kandra (quoted) are liberals, and as for myself, you may judge as you wish, but the only reason I voted in the 2008 election at all, was to cast my ballot for Sarah Palin and hope for something to providentially knock out McCain. (No a death-wish. Just benign like, say, something to do with his larynx.)
Of course I'll allow her a foot-fault. But if she's smart, she won't do it again.
Remember, HUMOR is under assault. The PC crowd (who have no sense of humor), want to make all humor offensive to someone so that “jokes” will no longer be tolerated.
Crazy you say? Oh, crazy like we would elect a gay (bi-sexual) Muslim, Marxist, born in Kenya, American hating, incompetent as president?
I am a Christian (In The Ministry), and I am not offended by what she said.
The word “Baptize’ comes from the Greek word to “immerse”. It would probably have been more “offensive” if Sarah had used the word “Christened”, but we do that to ships...with champagne, no less!
It is probably TOO strong a word for Waterboarding, since complete immersion is not even employed in the process.
Ask them if they approve of this, just asking.
No, just liberals are offended. Whether or not they claim Christianity is besides the point. Some of them may wish to remember the crusaders, Jesus flipping tables in the temple, David and a host of other actions.
Shrinking violet Christians are welcome to believe as they wish. But it does not change the fact that ‘being offended’ at something like this is patently ridiculous. “Baptized” isn’t a word that ‘some’ Christians have exclusive rights to. They should stop acting like it is because the rest of us who subscribe to Christianity do not remotely agree with that interpretation.
Nor will we bow down to some PC definition of it.
I’m a catholic and I say waterboarding was the only time these filthy pigs touch water.
Go get em Sarah.
Wow. Grow up is what comes to mind. If these Christians are not out there raging against the Government smacking other Christians around on a daily basis then please shut up about Palin’s comment...