Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Ukraine crisis: Dozens killed in Odessa fire amid clashes
BBC News Europe ^ | 5/2/2014 | Staff

Posted on 05/02/2014 12:26:04 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist

At least 38 people have been killed in a fire in an official building amid clashes in Odessa, in south west Ukraine, local police say.

...

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Military/Veterans; Society
KEYWORDS: banderists; civilwar; footballfans; maidan; massacre; odessa; rightsector; russia; svoboda; tradeunionhouse; turchynov; ukraine
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-8081-86 next last
To: no-to-illegals; All

Video from Inside the burned out building

WARNING-VERY GRAPHIC

Commenter is supposedly calling the dead “N****rs”
https://www.youtube.com/embed/vv9_z6Cdf3g


41 posted on 05/02/2014 1:29:20 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies]

To: Agog

It’s terrible that people died today in Odessa, especially peaceful Ukrainians who were not expecting a band of violent people armed by Moscow. As for those in the building, they have no one to blame but themselves.


Exactly right. Like we have been saying for weeks. It’s only the Putinistas who have been cheering on the kidnap, murder and mayhem. It’s terrible and the entire violent drama in E. & S. Ukraine is Made In Russia.


42 posted on 05/02/2014 1:32:15 PM PDT by lodi90
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 40 | View Replies]

To: tcrlaf

Bookmark


43 posted on 05/02/2014 1:32:24 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 41 | View Replies]

To: Agog

Bullsc**t..
Looks at the pics posted on the morning thread.

The protestors were mostly KIDS, not “Paid Agents”. This propagandic idiocy has to stop.

Yes, I gree, there are no innocents, but remember, the shooting didn’t start until someone hijacked a FIRE TRUCK, and drove it through a street barricade, injuring several people.

What are they supposed to do? Die in place, to sate the Ukrainian bloodlust being called down by Obama??


44 posted on 05/02/2014 1:32:27 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 40 | View Replies]

Thanks whoever you are


45 posted on 05/02/2014 1:33:01 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 43 | View Replies]

To: Agog
It is reported that both sides were clashing outside. BOTH. The outside encampment for the anti-Maidan people was (according to reports) destroyed by the “football fans” and the pro-Maidan people. The anti-Maidan, anti-Kiev people went into the Trade Union house, and you can see on the BBC link at the URL link, where molotov cocktails are being thrown at the building, and there are videos of the people suffocating to death inside.

We need to stay out of this, though, IMHO.

Even you must admit that Obama’s anti-Midas touch (Libya (Benghazi), Syria, Egypt (his support for the Muslim Brotherhood) and now Ukriane is not helping the U.S.

46 posted on 05/02/2014 1:35:48 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 40 | View Replies]

To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Updates:

EMERGENCY MEETING IN MOSCOW - KREMLIN.....Declaration of War rumored...

From traffic controller tweets:

The Russian military cargo plane is coming to Odessa, 5 Russian fighters are also coming to the area

Another Russian cargo plane to the same area

Military aircraft, Russian cargo, taking off towards Crimea continues odessa

Kiev Bandera thugs in Armored vehicles trying 2 break thru Andreevki checkpt Residents blocking it.....shooting at Civilians....plug your ears....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gF0C88W5fw8&feature=youtu.be


47 posted on 05/02/2014 1:36:49 PM PDT by caww
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: caww

Caww, know you are on top of what is taking place .... Share all you can, please. Give us Thunder!


48 posted on 05/02/2014 1:38:21 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 47 | View Replies]

To: tcrlaf

Many of the Ukrainian protestors were teenagers that’s true. The dead in the trade union building were clearly much older. Moreover, 15 of them have been identified as Russian nationals.

By the way, the shooting by Putin’s hooligans started even before the incident with the fire truck. Two people were already shot dead by them, including an elderly bystander. Also, I’m not sure how shooting in a crowd will protect a gunman from a fire truck.


49 posted on 05/02/2014 1:39:07 PM PDT by Agog
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 44 | View Replies]

To: lodi90; tcrlaf

No one is cheering on anything from either side. That is sick.

It was horrible what Saddam did to the Kurds, but did we intervene then? No.

What REAL conservatives want is for America to stay out of this. No to RINO interventionism via Obama. RINOs and the don’t-care-one -way-or-another-about-Soros crowd want interventionism.

Them and the McCain crowd.


50 posted on 05/02/2014 1:40:58 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 42 | View Replies]

To: tcrlaf
What are they supposed to do? Die in place...

Yes. It they are pro-Russian, they can either go to Russia which they claim as their fatherland and benefactor; or they can STFU and be greatful to their Ukrainian hosts; or they can die in place as you suggest, like the infiltrating insects they are.

Were I the Ukranians, I would offer the same options to the pro-EU contingents in the western regions.

Anything other than Ukrainian independence for Ukrainian people in Ukrainian territory is someone's foreign agenda.

We would and will have the same problems here in the USA if/when the Spanish-speaking foreigners decide they want to exert absolute control and tyranny over the English-speaking US citizens. When such time comes, (it may be already here), we should offer the same options to our infiltrating insects.

51 posted on 05/02/2014 1:43:06 PM PDT by meadsjn
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 44 | View Replies]

To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Amen ... Stay away ... Stay Away zer0! Hi, nsa. btw ... Who can any of us trust?


52 posted on 05/02/2014 1:43:33 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 50 | View Replies]

To: All; jimbo123; Psalm 144; Count of Monte Fisto; caww; little jeremiah; McGruff; DJ MacWoW

There is this video that you may want to watch.

Warning: Very Graphic


53 posted on 05/02/2014 1:44:25 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 41 | View Replies]

To: Agog

Save you breath. The spin will be a “Right Sector false flag op”. Never mind we have seen armed pro-Russian “prosters” literally dozens of times in the last few weeks.

Interestingly, the Banderists only shot Ukrainians while the police protected the Pro-Russians. I didn’t see any pro-Russians shot while they were protected by the police.


54 posted on 05/02/2014 1:45:00 PM PDT by lodi90
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 49 | View Replies]

To: Agog

Keep on report friend.


55 posted on 05/02/2014 1:46:14 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 49 | View Replies]

To: Laissez-faire capitalist

There are plenty of recent photos of murdered and assaulted Ukrainian patriots. Not interest in the work by your boys?


56 posted on 05/02/2014 1:46:51 PM PDT by lodi90
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 53 | View Replies]

To: meadsjn

So, only selected Ukrainian citizens are allowed to protest in maidan-Style??


57 posted on 05/02/2014 1:48:15 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 51 | View Replies]

To: Laissez-faire capitalist; tcrlaf

No one is cheering on anything from either side. That is sick.


Incorrect. Your FRiend here was posting triumphalist pro-Russian photos from Donetsk just yesterday.


58 posted on 05/02/2014 1:52:28 PM PDT by lodi90
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 50 | View Replies]

To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Thanks for posting this.

They keep trying to bait the Russians to become overtly militarily involved.

If the Russians become overtly involved militarily, that justifies tons of US covert help that this US administration will respond with.

That will turn it into a proxy war that will be labeled by the press as a “civil war”.

The idea will be at the end Ukraine will be divided into East/West Ukraine.

Such a tragedy that the “powers that be” love the idea of partitioning Ukraine through the use of war.

Russia could simply show enormous restraint and respond by simply continuing to publish their view that the government in Kiev is riddled with US/EU influence at the highest levels, and is thus really not legitimate.

If only the financial elites would allow Ukraine to trade with both sides as it has for 20 years.

And not insist on absorbing them into the EU.

Thousands upon thousands of lives could be saved from agonizing deaths.

I am so sick of wars managed by the financial elites.

If only Russia could just keep pointing out what is going on and leave it go at that.

If only through continued patience - and instead of Ukrainian business being trained by the financial elites of USUBC, etc., if they could learn how legitimate businesses in the West operate. The real businesses, family owned. Things like how to stay out of debt.

All the elitist financiers want is to get Ukraine deeper in debt, and extract the interest through taxation.


59 posted on 05/02/2014 1:53:46 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 46 | View Replies]

To: tcrlaf

Well, certainly not the pro-Russian people.


60 posted on 05/02/2014 1:54:50 PM PDT by meadsjn
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 57 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-8081-86 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson