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This upsets me greatly.

Looks like Ukraine is going the way of Syria thanks to Russian propaganda, Russian special forces, Russian controlled militias, and Russian military and political maneuvers to destabilize the nation. Imagine the USA had the misfortune of being located next to Russia and not next to British Canada. This could have been us a few hundred years ago.

Seeing a young democracy destroyed by a powerful tyrant is like watching a snake strangle a beautiful bird...

1 posted on 05/02/2014 4:48:33 PM PDT by BurningOak
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To: BurningOak

I don’t know if it is quite that poignant.

But note well that Putin hasn’t had the balls yet to push his own forces across the border.


2 posted on 05/02/2014 4:51:21 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: BurningOak

That beautiful “democracy” is going to get swallowed by a snake or an alligator. It is their choice.


4 posted on 05/02/2014 4:55:41 PM PDT by dforest
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To: BurningOak

Lessay Russia mucked around in Puerto Rico —how would we feel..?

SOME fights belong to other people.


7 posted on 05/02/2014 4:57:39 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: BurningOak

shooting down one is possible, two in a row, Russia is giving them weapons, there isn’t any doubt.

UN is spineless to do anything.


8 posted on 05/02/2014 5:00:44 PM PDT by dila813
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To: BurningOak

“Seeing a young democracy destroyed by a powerful tyrant is like watching a snake strangle a beautiful bird...”

As I understand it, the current Ukraine Gov. is the result of an coop a few months back. Why do you call it a young democracy?


9 posted on 05/02/2014 5:01:57 PM PDT by babygene ( .)
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To: BurningOak
It's a good news story...and great to discuss...but there is nothing the US can do about it.
CLIMATE CHANGE!, Palestine, and making everyone equal in the US is much more important. Just "axe" Obammy.
10 posted on 05/02/2014 5:05:06 PM PDT by Dallas59 ("Remember me as you pass by, As you are now, so once was I, As I am now, so you will be")
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To: BurningOak

Lunch? I haven't *touched* Obama's lunch.

11 posted on 05/02/2014 5:06:04 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Stalin Blamed The Kulaks,Obama Blames The Tea Party)
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To: BurningOak
Yeah, there isn't a single Ukrainian fighting another Ukrainian because you can always call Ukrainians "ethnic Russians" just like the people going to Dachau were all not really Germans.

Please, the powerful tyrant stuff should be reserved for the coup "government" in Kiev who unleashed the Army on protesters after throwing out a legally elected government that would not unleash the Army on protesters. A very interesting contrast, that, and a good indication of who is a tyrant in the Ukraine.

12 posted on 05/02/2014 5:06:23 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: BurningOak

I’m not nearly as idealistic as all that. Joining the European union is hardly my definition of Democracy and our Democracy is a fiction dominated by oligarchs and an elitist political class. I may not love Russia but when weighed against the EU and our government its hard not to find ourselves wanting. I also think it is healthy to have an antagonist that makes people wake up to a reality of a dangerous world and world where having a government debt that represents 87% (EU) of GDP is dangerous beyond belief.
We need not delude ourselves the old America that we could be loyal and love is nearly gone. We have only a few more elections left to pull back from the abyss. Russia isn’t our threat. Our threat is in the white house and on TV and represented by a political/corporatist class that has enslaved us in all way but chains but that will come in time whether it be to bind our hands or just to our minds.

http://www.economist.com/news/finance-and-economics/21601536-crisis-ukraine-hurting-already-weakening-economy-tipping-scales


16 posted on 05/02/2014 5:14:08 PM PDT by Maelstorm
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To: BurningOak

“Looks like Ukraine is going the way of Syria thanks to”

Ukraine is going the way of Syria because the Obama administration spent a TON of US taxpayer money to make it that way, to “get back” at Putin for daring to deny the greatness of Obama, and block his attack on Syria.


17 posted on 05/02/2014 5:14:33 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: BurningOak

In the meantime, Obama tees up on hole 12 and prepares to attempt to make a 9 on the hole.


28 posted on 05/02/2014 5:24:38 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (MARANATHA, MARANATHA, Come quickly LORD Jesus!!! Father send thy Son!! Its Time!)
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To: BurningOak

As though the Ukraine is as pure as the wind driven snow.


32 posted on 05/02/2014 5:26:16 PM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Are!)
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To: BurningOak

“Seeing a young democracy destroyed by a powerful tyrant is like watching a snake strangle a beautiful bird...”

You are completely out of touch with reality. The regime in Kiev came to power in a coup and the people they are attacking are supporters of the deposed president who won the last election. Whatever your take on the situation, it is an outright lie to frame the conflict in those terms.


34 posted on 05/02/2014 5:28:43 PM PDT by Monmouth78
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To: BurningOak

Seeing a young democracy destroyed by a powerful tyrant is like watching a snake strangle a beautiful bird...

Seeing a 200+ year old democracy destroyed by a powerful tyrant makes me want to puke.


41 posted on 05/02/2014 5:38:39 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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Just so everyone is aware, Pertaining to the crew of impotent hyperpatriots that hang out on the Russia/Ukraine threads accusing people of spreading propaganda for Putin and the like....

So far I have invited about half of them to put on their big boy panties and report us ‘Russian propogandists’ to DHS or at the very least, to JR. Which one would thing a fitting action. We are Russian propogandists and worse right? Not one of them believes enough in the accusations they make towards those refusing to agree with them to do their obvious patriotic duty and have us foreign agents arrested or even zotted.

That pretty much shows you how little they stand behind the crap coming off their keyboards while disrupting every thread on the subject.

Oh, and you will also note that when confronted with the well reported ‘Occupy Ukraine” scam that out state Dept ran that pretty much started this mess, there is dismissal or silence.

Just a heads up for lurkers and other posters who don’t feel like wasting their time.


42 posted on 05/02/2014 5:38:57 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: BurningOak

Democracy? What democracy? They ran the elected guy out of the country, and replaced him with Svoboda-party thugs... because he wouldn’t join the European Union. Take a look at the US debt-to-GDP ratio, the go looks at the folks the EU calls “PIIGS,” and see what the Bundesbank did to them.


43 posted on 05/02/2014 5:41:29 PM PDT by dangus
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To: BurningOak

this is barry’s “flexible” position with putin.

after all he’s marxist so a revived soviet union is really a wonderful thing to him.


54 posted on 05/02/2014 5:50:50 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: BurningOak

Guess one could say God knows the reasons.


75 posted on 05/02/2014 6:15:21 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: BurningOak
I am on both sides. I am pro-Ukranian and pro-Russia.

GO, WHOEVER! GO GO GO!

356 posted on 05/03/2014 6:54:50 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: BurningOak

Its not all bad.

Putin is preparing to drive all of Islam out of Russia, Ukraine and Georgia, and he may not stop there. The Coptic Church is solidly behind him, after deaths of thousands of Copts across the ME and Egypt at the hands of the Muslim Brotherhood.

The issues are far more complex than Western lefty news sources have revealed. The Tartars of Ukraine and other Slavic regions have yet to play their hand. Putin is waiting for it.


382 posted on 05/05/2014 2:57:09 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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