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Rand Paul: AIPAC Is Opposing Bill to Cut Aid to Palestinians
News Max ^ | 01 May 2014 | Bill Hoffmann

Posted on 05/02/2014 9:57:09 PM PDT by VitacoreVision

A bill that could potentially cut off foreign aid to Palestinians has some surprising opposition: the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, a powerful pro-Israel lobby, says Sen. Rand Paul, who is sponsoring the legislation.

"Ironically, the group AIPAC is pushing back this bill and this is to me very troubling," Paul told "The Steve Malzberg Show" on Newsmax TV.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aipac; antiwardotcom; israel; lewrockwell; randpaul; stormfront

1 posted on 05/02/2014 9:57:11 PM PDT by VitacoreVision
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To: VitacoreVision
Rand Paul Now Tougher On The Palestinians Than AIPAC!

AndrewSullivan.com
May 2 2014
2 posted on 05/02/2014 10:00:35 PM PDT by VitacoreVision
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To: VitacoreVision; MinuteGal

I suspect Israel is afraid that cutting off aid will destabilize the Pali territories, destroy the current uneasy already equilibrium, and cause more problems than it will cure. Israel must have its good reasons for opposing what Rand Paul has proposed, or it wouldn’t be against it. Israel knows better than anyone in that area of the world what is a good idea, what is a bad idea, and why. They aren’t going to go against something that would help Israel, and for some reason they don’t think this move by Rand Paul would help.

I wouldn’t trust Rand Paul on anything Israel anyhow. The acorn doesn’t fall far from the tree. Rand Paul is trying too hard to show he isn’t the anti-semite his dad Ron Paul is. Trying way too hard, on Israel and defense matters in general. Wouldn’t trust him in either area any further than I could throw him.


3 posted on 05/02/2014 10:30:24 PM PDT by flaglady47 (Oppressors can tyranize only w/a standing army-enslaved press-disarmed populace)
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To: flaglady47

Help me understand this.

Is Ron Paul called an anti-semite for the constitutional position of cutting off all foreign aid to every country? I don’t understand why that’s anti-semitism.


4 posted on 05/02/2014 10:35:36 PM PDT by VitacoreVision
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To: VitacoreVision

Same logic as it is not a hate crime when a black kid punches white people in the knock out game, but it becomes a national crisis when the black kid starts to punch out Jewish people.


5 posted on 05/02/2014 11:16:31 PM PDT by Fee ( Big Gov and Big Business are Enemies of America)
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To: flaglady47

Ron and Ran Paul represents a viewpoint that when the US becomes the policeman of the world, it is expensive and a thankless job. Today all the nations we saved in WW2 will turn on us if it was in their interests. Recent poll done on the streets of the world to get the feelings of the people on the street on how they feel about the US. Five top countries that hate the US are Palestinians, Pakistanis, Iraq, Egypt, and Aghanistan. Fox news wonder why many Americans are not interested in empire America and support neo isolationism. It is very simple, after WW2 Americans want to be leader of the free world because the people we help appreciated our sacrifice. We do not have that today. Maybe being policeman of the world means we have to deal with RealPolitik. During Cold War we had to side with brutal dictatorships to counter Communist expansion. Maybe the friend of my friend or enemy of my enemies, convuluted what we stand for and make us look like hypocrites. Example criticize China on forcing Churches to register while doing business with Saudi Arabia despite the fact they will execute Christians. IAW being policeman in the world eventually destroys US image and values. Our founding fathers call it entanglement. Finally the US did not become a world power via conquest. We became a world power by letting the great powers of our past kill each other, and we quietly step in as the sole intact economic power after they exhausted and kill each other. Neocons keep screaming that the if the US withdraw from the world the world will go into chaos. Hey neocons, how did we become a great power? In other words give war a chance. Pull back to our two ocean barriers and let China, EU, Russia, India and Japan kill each other.


6 posted on 05/02/2014 11:29:16 PM PDT by Fee ( Big Gov and Big Business are Enemies of America)
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To: VitacoreVision

I suspect all the middle men between the money and the receiver of the aid don’t want their share removed


7 posted on 05/03/2014 12:15:22 AM PDT by 4rcane
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To: VitacoreVision; MinuteGal

“Is Ron Paul called an anti-semite for the constitutional position of cutting off all foreign aid to every country? I don’t understand why that’s anti-semitism.”

Below are examples of Ron Paul’s anti-semitic attitudes towards Jews. There are more but I’m not into posting an epic; so do your own research if you want to pursue it further, which I doubt you do:

Eric Dondero, who served a variety of positions under Ron Paul, including Senior Aide from 1997 to 2003 in an interview in December of 2011 with Mediaite (snippet) stated:

“He is… most certainly Anti-Israel, and Anti-Israeli in general. He wishes the Israeli state did not exist at all.”

“He strenuously does not believe the United States had any business getting involved in fighting Hitler in WWII. He expressed to me countless times, that “saving the Jews,” was absolutely none of our business.”

In an interview with HuffPost (snippet) in September of 2013, Ron Paul:

“defended his planned September 11th, 2013 keynote address at a “gala dinner fundraiser” to be held during a controversial [also see 1, 2] conference organized by a fringe, schismatic Catholic organization accused of virulent anti-Semitism, the Fatima Center.
According to a new report, Ron Paul’s association with Fatima Center leaders, including Fatima Center head Father Nicholas Gruner — who has espoused Holocaust denial, traces back at least as far as 1998.

During the September 5th interview, MSNBC’s Wagner confronted Paul with the fact that the Fatima Center has been called a “hard-core anti-Semite group” and has in the past published writing suggesting that Jews should be stripped of certain civil rights — a suggestion also once made by one of the speakers, Father Paul Leonard Kramer, who will join Ron Paul at the upcoming Fatima Center “Path To Peace” conference to be held September 8th to 13th in Niagara Falls, Ontario.

Former Congressman Paul responded to MSNBC correspondent Wagner’s challenge by flatly refusing to reconsider his planned appearance at the Fatima Center conference and by accusing Wagner of “Catholic bashing.””

In an article in The Philadelphia Jewish Voice (snippet), dated February 2008, it stated:

“In one of the most sad, cynical, and disgusting moments of the 2008 presidential campaign, the Associated Press is reporting that Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul has refused to return a campaign contribution from Don Black, who runs a vicious White Supremacist website.

Rep. Paul’s spokesman’s pathetic excuse for keeping the money was that “If someone with small ideologies happens to contribute money to Ron, thinking he can influence Ron in any way, he’s wasted his money,” and that “Ron is going to take the money and try to spread the message of freedom.”

The spokesman, Jesse Benton also, pitifully noted, “And that’s $500 less that this guy has to do whatever it is that he does.” Even if Ron Paul had not recently set fundraising records, this excuse would still be an insult to the intelligence of voters. Given his fundraising prowess, the excuse is doubly insulting.

If Rep. Paul refuses to stand up to hate-mongers like Don Black, it is fair to ask whether he is tacitly welcoming their support in a desperate attempt to gain traction in the Republican primary. And, if the other Republican candidates do not condemn him for this, it will send a similar message as did their refusal to condemn Ann Coulter.

Rep. Paul, it should be noted, has a terrible record on Israel and has called the Israeli government “evil.” In October, the Republican Jewish Coalition barred him from their policy forum due to his libertarian stance against providing foreign aid to Israel. The New Republic reports that GOP Presidential Candidate Ron Paul published a newsletter containing racist and anti-Semitic rhetoric including a claim that the 1993 World Trade Center bombing may have been carried out by the Mossad:

“The rhetoric when it came to Jews was little better. The newsletters display an obsession with Israel; no other country is mentioned more often in the editions I saw, or with more vitriol. A 1987 issue of Paul’s Investment Letter called Israel “an aggressive, national socialist state,” and a 1990 newsletter discussed the “tens of thousands of well-placed friends of Israel in all countries who are willing to wok [sic] for the Mossad in their area of expertise.” Of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, a newsletter said, “Whether it was a setup by the Israeli Mossad, as a Jewish friend of mine suspects, or was truly a retaliation by the Islamic fundamentalists, matters little.”

In an article with the Gawker (snippet) dated April 14, 2014, with the Anti-Semitic Klansman Glenn Miller, entitled

“Anti-Semitic Klansman in Kansas Killing Spree Really Liked Ron Paul”, it was stated:

“During the interview, Miller was unabashed about his anti-Semitic positions. When asked whether he thought the United States would be better off if Hitler had succeeded, Miller responded, “Absolutely, the whole world would... Hitler would have created a paradise on Earth, particularly for white people. But he would have been fair to other people as well.” He added, “Germans are blamed collectively because of the alleged so-called Holocaust.”

Not surprisingly, Miller denigrated most American politicians, but cited one positively: “If I had my way [all US Senators] would be in jail right now for treason, if not hung from a sturdy oak tree... Ron Paul is the only independent politician, representative in Washington.” He also spoke highly of another conservative: “Patrick Buchanan, he’s a great man, he’s a great historian, he’s one of the very few journalists who has the courage to speak out against Jewish domination in the country.” Miller called Howard Stern “a Jew liar.” When asked whether he supported the tea party, Miller replied, “The school’s still out on them. They’re a new movement. I’m watching them closely. I suspect, however, they’ll be infiltrated by the Jews and therefore led into defeat.””


8 posted on 05/03/2014 1:55:28 AM PDT by flaglady47 (Oppressors can tyranize only w/a standing army-enslaved press-disarmed populace)
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To: VitacoreVision
"AIPAC supports a cut off of aid to any Palestinian government that includes an unreformed Hamas, and this is what is provided for in current law.'

Paul said his bill, which he introduced before the Senate on Thursday, would make aid to the Palestinian authority contingent on it recognizing Israel and cut off aid if it does not.

So now Rand Paul is tougher on jihadists than Israel's own lobbyists? I'm tired of caring more about Israel's survival than they seem to care about it themselves.

9 posted on 05/03/2014 2:59:59 AM PDT by Hugin
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To: flaglady47

>> I wouldn’t trust Rand Paul on anything Israel anyhow. The acorn doesn’t fall far from the tree.

Bad premise. Possibly not dissimilar, but the father-to-son cast aspersion isn’t a principle one must normally follow.


10 posted on 05/03/2014 3:25:42 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Fee

“Hey neocons, how did we become a great power? In other words give war a chance. Pull back to our two ocean barriers and let China, EU, Russia, India and Japan kill each other.”

And how does the above account for the Messicans and other illegal aliens who hate us, or for that significant part of Blacks who hate us?

I suggest that we settle our internal potential race war issues while we still can. Assuming that such can be accomplished without a 4th Generation style civil war in a world where an anti-American, pro Islam President has placed similarly anti-American officials in top military and civil positions.


11 posted on 05/03/2014 6:13:17 AM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est - because of what Islam is and because of what Muslims do.)
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To: VitacoreVision

There’s nothing unconstitutional about foreign aid, that’s just one of the lies the Pauls and their Paultard Lemming Army regurgitate at the drop of a hat.


12 posted on 05/03/2014 6:53:12 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Rand Slams Congress for Funding Egypt's Generals: 'How Does Your Conscience Feel Now?'
Sen. Rand Paul is hammering his fellow senators for keeping billions in financial aid flowing to Egypt's military -- even as Cairo's security forces massacre anti-government activists. [by "anti-government activists" is meant church-burning Christian-murdering jihadists]
[Posted on 08/15/2013 5:44:10 PM PDT by Hoodat]

13 posted on 05/03/2014 6:53:46 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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14 posted on 05/03/2014 6:55:38 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: flaglady47

Thanks, well said. Rand Paul is a demagogue, but ultimately he, just as his father, would pursue the same policies as their fellow travelers at Stormfront, Antiwar.com, and Lew Rockwell.


15 posted on 05/03/2014 6:57:56 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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I'm a messianic Jew, and I take great offense to you attributing my support of rand paul, and his foreign policy to storm front.
16 posted on 05/03/2014 7:43:13 PM PDT by cowboyusa
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To: cowboyusa

I don’t care. Either you are not aware of what Rand Paul is, or, you’re not telling the truth about what you are. Either way, I don’t care.


17 posted on 05/03/2014 7:55:16 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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18 posted on 05/04/2014 5:21:23 AM PDT by SJackson (the Democrats take back control, we don’t make (this) kind of naked power grab, J Biden)
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