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San Jose State expels three charged with hate crime
San Jose Mercury News ^ | 5/02/2014 | Tracey Kaplan

Posted on 05/02/2014 9:57:52 PM PDT by christx30

SAN JOSE -- San Jose State has expelled three of the students charged with the racially tinged bullying of a freshman and extended one other student's suspension, requiring him to go to counseling and to remain on probation for the rest of his college career if he returns to school.

All four had been suspended pending final disciplinary action for allegedly subjecting then-17-year-old Donald Williams Jr. to repeated abuse, including wrestling him to the ground and fastening a bike lock around his neck, calling him racially derogatory names, locking him in his room and displaying a Confederate flag.

The expelled students are banned for life from enrolling in any California State University college, according to university documents and sources familiar with the investigation.

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Glad to see those kids faced consequences for treating a person like crap. It should happen more often.
1 posted on 05/02/2014 9:57:52 PM PDT by christx30
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nicknaming the black student "Three-fifths," a reference to the way the government, for census purposes, once counted blacks as just a fraction of a person. When he protested, they dubbed him "Fraction."

Bastards.

2 posted on 05/02/2014 10:17:10 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: christx30

Um, they are getting off easy! Too easy! Criminal charges should have been filed and prosecution done. These twerps are going to be dangerous to society.


3 posted on 05/02/2014 10:24:58 PM PDT by MHGinTN
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To: christx30

What the heck is going on with people these days was this “hazing”? Who does this crap.


4 posted on 05/02/2014 10:25:07 PM PDT by funfan
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To: christx30

What happened with “innocent until proven guilty”? The article only says they’re charged with a crime.


5 posted on 05/02/2014 10:26:39 PM PDT by eclecticEel ("The petty man forsakes what lies within his power and longs for what lies with Heaven." - Xunzi)
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To: MHGinTN

Society would certainly be better off without the likes of those three racist Hooligans! :-(


6 posted on 05/02/2014 10:29:51 PM PDT by Bobalu (What cannot be programmed cannot be physics)
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To: christx30

this story ticks me off for three reasons:

1) Rev Moore II responded to racism with some of his own:

Moore said. “If they went to prison, they’d probably come back as skinheads.”

2) A boy’s reputed hazing was carried on far too long to call it hazing after the young man vocalized he wasn’t in to the joke. When people say no they freaking mean no! The kids that taunted him should be punished, and sternly, but I think banning from education for life smacks of “sterlingization” and that’s a dangerous precident to set.

3) The kids disrespected the Confederate Flag by associating it with hatred and they probably disrespected Elvis, too. That’s worth at least 10 days hard labor in itself.


7 posted on 05/02/2014 10:33:34 PM PDT by blueplum
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To: eclecticEel

They were charged with a crime. But the University is able to decide who goes there and who doesn’t. Their legal troubles are just beginning. But their academic careers are over in California.


8 posted on 05/02/2014 10:40:35 PM PDT by christx30 (Freedom above all.)
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To: christx30
Wow, two news stories within eight days in which the charges of white anti-black racism are apparently true! Has that ever happened before? We are so inundated by incessant false accusations of white racism that it is shocking to see what appears to be the real thing.

Perhaps Obama's and Holder's racial favoritism is producing the results that some of us have long expected.

9 posted on 05/02/2014 10:40:55 PM PDT by TChad (The Obamacare motto: Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori.)
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To: TChad

Sounds to me like these twerps would be equal opportunity meanies to anyone, under the necessary circumstances. I think race was only an excuse. Of all the acts of race hate I’ve heard of, calling a fellow “Fraction” is a new one. It really sounds like a hazing joke gone way overboard much more than any sort of genuine race animus.


10 posted on 05/02/2014 10:45:16 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: TChad

And... for revenge I think the black fellow should get to stuff saltines down the pants of his assailants, calling them crackers....


11 posted on 05/02/2014 10:47:37 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

You could easily be right. We need more details.


12 posted on 05/02/2014 11:02:59 PM PDT by TChad (The Obamacare motto: Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori.)
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To: TChad

Has that ever happened? I don’t think you want to go there.


13 posted on 05/02/2014 11:14:19 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: christx30

Whatta bunch of BS.

Whites are an absolute racial minority in San Jose (27% of the population) and they are routinely victimized by non- whites in far more serious attacks: murder, assaults, muggings, you name it.

And that includes SJSU. Although there it’s usually Mexican attacks as they are the majority in San Jose now.

Nobody gets suspended for life. They get sympathy for their ‘plight’.

They went after these guys because the it’s the coup de grace for the Americans in that part of California: submit to racial persecution or leave.

They want California ethnically cleansed of the hated Whitey. This is just one more stop on that road. Doubt if even half of the crap is true.


14 posted on 05/02/2014 11:26:35 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: 9YearLurker
I don’t think you want to go there.

Yes, "ever" is always risky. I should have set a time range, perhaps the past 30 years. For a very long time the rule has been that public accusations of white racism are much more likely to be false than true.

15 posted on 05/02/2014 11:30:37 PM PDT by TChad (The Obamacare motto: Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori.)
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To: Regulator
Whites are an absolute racial minority in San Jose (27% of the population) and they are routinely victimized by non- whites in far more serious attacks: murder, assaults, muggings, you name it.

And San Jose is probably about 2% black. Isn't 27% still a lot higher than 2%, or did you go to San Jose State?

16 posted on 05/02/2014 11:57:31 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Regulator

So they went after these guys by making them treat this kid so horribly? They told them to make racial slurs and such?

Interesting....tell us more.


17 posted on 05/03/2014 12:56:16 AM PDT by GilesB
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To: nickcarraway
San Jose 2010 Demographics

The single race black group is 3.2% per the link.Non-hispanic whites 28.7%. Hispanic+non-hispanic whites 42.8%. Law enforcement statistics have been annotated to identify hispanic vs non-hispanic whites as the higher crime rates of the hispanic white groups were being diluted by lumping them together.

18 posted on 05/03/2014 1:17:20 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Regulator

Stop with reality.

Freepers on this thread are having too much fun with this opportunity to preen with self righteous indignation over a black guy being called 3/5ths

Oh God the horror

Reminds me of Hannitys fawning over his black friends in the wake of athe Sterling affair


19 posted on 05/03/2014 1:24:05 AM PDT by wardaddy (we will not take back our way of life through peaceful means.....i have 5 kids....i fear for them)
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To: nickcarraway
There is no "majority" group (50% + 1) in CA anymore. The label "minority" is no longer valid. The comparison being made was white(27%) vs non-white(73%). I've provided the correct information in a prior link.
20 posted on 05/03/2014 1:32:03 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Myrddin

Any way you stack it, there are a lot more white people than black people in San Jose.


21 posted on 05/03/2014 1:35:51 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Myrddin

That 73% contains a large chunk of white people.


22 posted on 05/03/2014 1:36:36 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
No. The 28% is the single race white people. If you want to lump in the hispanic+non-hispanic whites, then the ratio is 57% non-white to 43% mixed white. Non-white is still the "majority".
23 posted on 05/03/2014 1:43:37 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: eclecticEel

Agree!


24 posted on 05/03/2014 1:44:18 AM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Lord, forgive us our sins and bring us to everlasting life.)
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Hate crime, but not assault. Pathetic.


25 posted on 05/03/2014 1:46:19 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: eclecticEel
The press and twitter trends are used to play judge and jury in the modern world. The judicial process is tainted severely before the parties can ever have their day in court.
26 posted on 05/03/2014 1:48:40 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: eclecticEel

You have a point, but when there’s a video of the Knockout Game, I’m not necessary awaiting a verdict to form an opinion of what appears to be an obvious assault. Nonetheless, you’re still correct.


27 posted on 05/03/2014 1:49:36 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Regulator

Huh?


28 posted on 05/03/2014 2:06:29 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: christx30

White on black racist bullying in schools is rare but when it happens, it makes the national news.

Compare that to the epidemic racist bullying, including violent assaults, by blacks of whites in schools in all levels of education. White college students going to school in an area with a nearby black population are routinely targeted and attacked by racist black thugs. But is is just a minor local story at best with any racial overtones, identities, or motives censored or spun away by our Corrupt Liberal Media.


29 posted on 05/03/2014 4:11:43 AM PDT by Uncle Lonny
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So you’re okay with the locking a bike chain around the black guy’s neck and attaching him to a pole. Got it. Your character is coming through loud and clear.


30 posted on 05/03/2014 7:53:21 AM PDT by MHGinTN
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To: wardaddy

Yeah.

That’s the point.

A few idiots say some words...and the reaction is huge. One might say overblown, but that would be an understatement.

But this is what is now happening in California. Non-whites commit serious crimes against pretty much everyone....and the world yawns. “They do that”.

But a white says something....and it’s the second coming of the KKK.

It’s always legitimized in terms of “majority persecution of the minority”.

Only one problem with that...we ain’t the majority.

It’s MauMau as you know.

American kids get murdered by Mexicans (Tyler Tenorio, Carl Reimer); terrorized about wearing the American flag, etc etc. no big deal, not much happens, and then they twist the story to blame the victims.

Since they’re white, it’s OK. Follows the meme of demonizing the White Devils.

But let one of the white devils so much as look sideways at a sacred non-white “minority”.....and the wailing and gnashing of teeth is endless.

It’s a game. But people here shouldn’t take the bait.


31 posted on 05/03/2014 10:40:24 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: Uncle Lonny

That’s the point.

One is ignored, the other is sensationalized for political gain.


32 posted on 05/03/2014 10:41:33 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: MHGinTN

Was that really what happened? Is it in context?

And if it did go down that way, how does that compare to beatings, robbery,intimidation, even murder?

The university system in California tolerates far worse things then that alleged here. I’ve seen people terrorized and intimidated by leftist thugs on UC campuses, even building takeovers, and...nothing. They get a lecture.

The point is that whites are now being punished severely for minor crimes while non whites are only punished mildly for serious crimes.

Don’t take my word for it. It’s part of the current plan to over prosecute whites on campuses because “blacks are disproportionately prosecuted”.

But you go right ahead believing what you want. If you think Murder is a Misdemeanor when committed by a nonwhite, but mean words are a felony when uttered by us Caspers, then there ain’t much to talk about.


33 posted on 05/03/2014 10:53:42 AM PDT by Regulator
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Oooooohhh...right.

Evil Whitey the Overbearing Majority Persecuting Cletus T. Innocent Minority.

Except....

Whites aren’t the majority

Blacks ARE the majority in many areas of California: Oakland, Bay view, Compton, Inglewood

So, uh, how does your story work out with those facts?

Whenever Evil Crackuhz do dastardly things in a part of town where there ain’t enuff Brothuz, it’s the Horriblest Baddest Evilest crime they Evah Wuz?

But let Casper walk into the wrong block in Oakland and...he be gone

Like For-ever. And everyone shrugs and says...Oh Well

This is just the California version of the Duke La Crosse team non-incident. Might be a little more to it but not much. It’s being sensationalized and propagandized by professional agitators like La Doris Cordell and the Mercury News to pursue the ultimate goal: Whites Be Bad, Let Us Take Over...for a more “Just Society”


34 posted on 05/03/2014 11:21:51 AM PDT by Regulator
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So in your view a crime is only a crime if a person of a majority "race" does it against a member of a minority? Where is that found in the law?

Oakland does not have a black majority. It was about 27% a few years ago, but rapidly declining. It's probably about 25% now.

35 posted on 05/03/2014 11:30:14 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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BTW, since y’all are so concerned about Racial crime in California and Just Punishment, what do you think about

A State Senator - Leland Yee, of the Chinese persuasion - indicted for ATTEMPTING TO SMUGGLE ROCKET PROPELLED GRENADE LAUNCHERS to Muslim Terrorists? He’s still collecting his salary....wouldn’t want him to starve, would we?

A State Senator - Ron Calderon of the Mexican persuasion - currently under indictment for taking an $80,000 bribe, but he too is collecting his salary. Wouldn’t want a poor campesino to starve, would we? Pobrecito.

A State Senator - Rod Wright , of the African persuasion - currently CONVICTED of Eight Felonies but appealing them; also collecting his salary while he’s on appeal. Starvation has never appeared to be Rods problem, but....

I guarantee you that even though convicted and sent up the road for a while that each and every one of these thugs will be able to not only attend a California State University system school should they decide to, but they would be able to get jobs with said system after the noise dies down a few years on.

Which will not be the case with the unfortunate Caspers who provoked the Wrath of the Righteous with their heinous hazing.

So tell me....which, and who, do you think is worse?


36 posted on 05/03/2014 11:42:23 AM PDT by Regulator
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These people should all be imprisoned if they are found guilty. But I don't see why their crimes means someone else should be able to commit as crime against a totally unrelated person. How do you justify that?

So tell me....which, and who, do you think is worse?

So any crimes that are not as severe as other crimes should get a free pass? So, since Mao Zedong murdered 50 million people, I can break your legs, because, "who do you think is worse?"

Maybe you should leave the U.S., since you don't like the U.S. system. You sound like you'd fit in in the Soviet Union better.

37 posted on 05/03/2014 11:48:27 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

My,my, what a cauldron of illogic.

Guess that’s why you think a few teenagers should be punished harshly for something minor while letting adults walk on far, far more serious charges.

I mean, if Leland Yee wasn’t an Asian member of the California State Senate, he’d be in Gitmo right about now...or dead from a drone strike.

But then you aren’t logical, are you?

Ta Ta. Nice rappin’ witchya bro. Dont worry, no one gotta move to Soviet Union...it comin here


38 posted on 05/03/2014 12:01:42 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: Regulator

No one said Leland Yee shouldn’t be punished. He should be prosecuted and put in prison. But the fact that you think he shouldn’t be prosecuted and should be killed in a drone strike indicates you come from the Obama mindset and probably hate the U.S. Constitution.


39 posted on 05/03/2014 12:24:35 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

That’s hilarious!

Right outta the Dezinformatsya play book.

Know what junior?

If Yee had been caught planning a weapons deal with Muslim terrorists anywhere outside of the country I guarantee you the U. S. military would have blown his butt sky high and I would have been just fine with it.

The fact that he’s in the U.S. is lucky for him but I think he should be tried as an Enemy Combatant or for Treason.

Selling RPGs to Moro Liberation Front people is grounds for firing squads.


40 posted on 05/03/2014 12:39:25 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: MHGinTN

I give you credit for being anti abortion

So I’ll give you a pass


41 posted on 05/03/2014 12:55:37 PM PDT by wardaddy (we will not take back our way of life through peaceful means.....i have 5 kids....i fear for them)
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To: Regulator

And you probably don’t even realize that your post is rife with the fallacy of the undistributed middle. *sigh*


42 posted on 05/03/2014 1:04:26 PM PDT by MHGinTN
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Oh...OK...I’m just one of the unwashed Boobwazzie and you of course are an Enlightened Being.

Got it.


43 posted on 05/03/2014 1:27:41 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: Regulator
You can call the Constitution "disinformation," but don't expect me to applaud you. Yes, the fact that anyone is in the U.S. is lucky for them. If you don't like this country, why don't you go live in one of the Muslim countries you want us to emulate.

Leeland Yee is a criminal. He should spend the rest of his life in prison. That does not mean every other criminal in the country get's a free pass.

44 posted on 05/03/2014 1:39:48 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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PS Darlings this was a REAL campus event a few years ago here in Post-American AmeriKKKa:

Kampus Kids Takeover! Occupy Calikfornia Gets Over on Aging Ofays!

Nothing happened to the little darlings here. They wore masks and took over State property. They're still all at UCSC getting grants, jobs, other people's cash...none of this "Banned for Life" crap.

But you guys are all cool with that! Right? Power to da Pipple Right On!

There's a Riot Goin' On!

45 posted on 05/03/2014 1:46:01 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: Regulator

White only 27%? Didn’t look like that to me when I was there a few years ago.


46 posted on 05/03/2014 1:49:30 PM PDT by tioga
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To: Regulator

Sorry, I don’t swing that way.


47 posted on 05/03/2014 1:52:55 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Regulator

Please explain how their crimes justify the behavior of these students. I am still confused...


48 posted on 05/03/2014 11:42:45 PM PDT by GilesB
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To: Regulator

You should not be accusing anybody of illogic. Stick to subjects with which you are familiar - logic is OBVIOUSLY not one of them.

None of your arguments on this topic display the slightest acquaintance with logic. I am willing to submit your arguments to expert scrutiny - I am quite confident that my statement will be upheld, because I am a bit of a logic expert in my own right.

You make extreme leaps of logic, which render your arguments senseless.


49 posted on 05/03/2014 11:50:01 PM PDT by GilesB
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To: Regulator

Oh wait! I get it now - your basic premise is that four wrongs make a right.

I’m sorry, I reject your premise.


50 posted on 05/03/2014 11:53:11 PM PDT by GilesB
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