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You have an air freshener in your car?

You look nervous?

Driving an out-of-state rental car?

Bend over...

1 posted on 05/03/2014 1:00:25 PM PDT by smokingfrog
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To: smokingfrog

Yup.

Officer: “I smell x, y, or z”. Bingo, probable cause.


2 posted on 05/03/2014 1:01:58 PM PDT by Wolfie
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To: smokingfrog
It goes like this at the hearing.

Cop: Your honor, he had a tail light out, which was clear evidence to me that he is a slovenly individual who cares little about personal safety, and is therefore likely a drunk or drug dealer.
Citizen: But as it turns out, my tail light was not, in fact, out.
Judge: That's OK. There's a good-faith exemption. What did you find?
Cop: We found an unloaded 45 caliber pistol in a case, which the defendant is licensed to carry.
Judge: That's not a crime yet.
Citizen: Great, may I have my gun back?
Cop: Submit a request and you may see it again in five or six years.

4 posted on 05/03/2014 1:11:50 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig, es ist nicht einmal falsch!)
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To: smokingfrog
They claim it all comes down to an officer having “probable cause...”

What if I have “probable cause” to search a cop's car?

5 posted on 05/03/2014 1:14:35 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: smokingfrog

As we have seen lately, all it takes are Colorado license plates.


6 posted on 05/03/2014 1:19:44 PM PDT by Cololeo
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I miss the days when we were a free country, government agents needed probable cause to get a warrant, and those government agents needed that warrant to conduct a search of our persons, houses, papers, and effects (including vehicles, phones, etc.).

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Today, it's more of an either-or, unless the police feel like waiving both requirements on their own initiative. This was a predictable result of the "Living Constitution", and it will get worse. Liberals and the ACLU claim to stand for these rights, but that turns out only to be true when their favored criminals are inconvenienced. Conservatives want to protect those rights equally for all - a goal that the far left describes as "racist".

7 posted on 05/03/2014 1:20:59 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: smokingfrog

Looking nervous? I like the fact that a subjective assessment is now a fact to justify probable cause.

The way things are now, you’d have to be semi-comatose not to be a little nervous when stopped by a cop.


9 posted on 05/03/2014 1:36:30 PM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est. New US economy: Fascism on top, Socialism on the bottom.)
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To: smokingfrog

I wonder how they get away with warrant-less searches in Mississippi - we pay property taxes on our vehicles and they are considered an extension of our homes for legal purposes.


14 posted on 05/04/2014 3:39:04 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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