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Meet the Christian Leaders Who Are Suing for Gay Marriage as a Religious Right
http://news.yahoo.com/meet-christian-leaders-suing-gay-marriage-religious-144736933.html ^ | May 3, 2014 | Solvej Schou

Posted on 05/03/2014 1:35:06 PM PDT by lbryce

Rev. Nancy Ellett Allison has joyfully officiated same-sex marriages in her corner of the conservative South since 2006.

“It is just a delight to be able to help these couples celebrate their lives together and work with them to craft their vows,” said Allison, her bright voice laced with a twang.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abyssofliberalagenda; homosexualagenda; homosexualcult; homosexualreligion; idiocy; idiots; nobounds; stupidity
The convoluted, contradictory, oxymoron of all time. Now it has become a "religious" right. You can't even laugh. This proves overwhelmingly what they say that liberals will never be satisfied. Every victory simply emboldens them to take on causes that are even more extreme.

Religious freedom, and its basis as a First Amendment right, is a prime issue at the center of the lawsuit, plus sheer anti-gay bias. The government has to have secular reasons for imposing laws, and can’t pick on a religious practice, said attorney Jennifer Pizer, senior counsel at gay rights organization Lambda Legal.

The trouble with their argument in invoking 'religious freedom' as a First Amendment issue is that the religious freedom as guaranteed by the Constitution applies only to traditional forms of religion.

If I belong to a religion that advocates 'child sacrifice' am I entitled to practice any such thing because preventing it violates my freedom?

1 posted on 05/03/2014 1:35:06 PM PDT by lbryce
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To: lbryce

Excellent point - but you will be ridiculed and poo-poohed for daring to even make the comparison.

Tribulation is upon us, and night is drawing on fast.


2 posted on 05/03/2014 1:45:50 PM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: lbryce
Meet the Christian Leaders Who Are Suing for Gay Marriage as a Religious Right

Too many words are wrong with this headline for it ever to be a true statement. Not ever. Never once.
3 posted on 05/03/2014 1:45:51 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: lbryce
Meet the Christian Leaders Who Are Suing for Gay Marriage as a Religious Right

Rev. Nancy Ellett Allison has joyfully officiated same-sex marriages

Sorry bich, in your case, you'll have to sue God for that.

4 posted on 05/03/2014 1:50:47 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: lbryce
Although I think it's a blatant...a disgraceful...affront to God...the REAL God...I don't believe it should be *illegal* in this country for a clergyman or a religious denomination to declare two homosexuals to be married in the eyes of their "God".They're either correct or incorrect in interpreting His will in that way.

Regarding "marriage" as a *legal* concept,OTOH...for the purposes of government benefits,etc,etc,etc......I say BARBARA STREISAND!

5 posted on 05/03/2014 1:51:43 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Stalin Blamed The Kulaks,Obama Blames The Tea Party)
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To: lbryce
Rev. Nancy Ellett Allison has joyfully officiated same-sex marriages in her corner of the conservative South since 2006. “It is just a delight to be able to help these couples celebrate their lives together and work with them to craft their vows,” said Allison, her bright voice laced with a twang.

Unfortunately for her congregation, Rev. Nancy does not understand that men and women NOT interchangeable. There are dire consequences when you go against natural law. Men and women have equal rights, but they are not interchangeable.

Maybe some day Rev. Nancy will be able to connect the dots.

6 posted on 05/03/2014 1:55:35 PM PDT by olezip (Time obliterates the fictions of opinion and confirms the decisions of nature. ~ Cicero)
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To: lbryce

They may be leaders but doubt very seriously that they are Christian leaders.


7 posted on 05/03/2014 2:01:17 PM PDT by mulligan (I)
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Is this Rev. Jeremiah Wrights church in a different city? It had a similar name.

It’s pretty confusing, but does she, or does not, support the right of people who DON’T want to be a party to a gay marriage? I’m talking about what is now a fairly substantial group of photographers, florists, cake makers, etc?


8 posted on 05/03/2014 2:06:45 PM PDT by crazycatlady
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To: lbryce

I’m guessing these “christians” don’t believe in John 3:16 and 1 Corinthians 6:9

There are many faux Christians leading believers astray with false doctrines.


9 posted on 05/03/2014 2:27:01 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: lbryce

I think that it is entirely possible that thousands of so-called ministers have seldom if ever actually cracked open a Bible.


10 posted on 05/03/2014 2:36:33 PM PDT by HMS Surprise (Chris Christie can STILL go straight to hell.)
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To: lbryce
"but it’s considered criminal for clergy to officiate religious vows between couples who have not yet obtained a valid marriage license."

If that is written in the law, sadly, the folks challenging it have a point. The state has NO BUSINESS declaring any religious ceremony illegal, if the ceremony does not affect any workings of the state government. If a homosexual couple can find a minister to say some words over them, and they consider themselves 'married', more power to them, but the state does not have to recognize that union as 'legal'.

North Carolina is going to have to think long and hard how to counter this suit, without having to dismantle the entire legislation. If they take out any language that has anything to do with what churches do on their own, they might be able to salvage their stance of no right to legal homosexual 'marriage'.

11 posted on 05/03/2014 2:54:49 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Gay State Conservative

Spitting in God’s face has consequences. It is a moral duty to say so and NOT to condone calling God a liar. He created a pair that compliments one another in order to “multiply and fill the earth”. Saying or condoning anything else is an affront to God. He isn’t someone anyone should willfully tick off.


12 posted on 05/03/2014 2:55:28 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: RginTN

“It is just a delight to be able to help these couples celebrate their lives together and work with them to craft their vows,”

Craft their vows? She means make stuff up.


13 posted on 05/03/2014 2:55:55 PM PDT by JohnnyP
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To: Gay State Conservative
For any Christian, Protestant or Catholic there is only one God and acknoweleging to two homosexual deviants there maybe some other ‘’God’’ is blasphemy
14 posted on 05/03/2014 2:57:08 PM PDT by jmacusa
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To: SuziQ

Ultimately, the only way to solve the problem is to disentangle the whole issue from the state.


15 posted on 05/03/2014 4:04:10 PM PDT by Flame Retardant (Ronald Reagan: If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism)
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To: SuziQ

How do you feel about a mother marring her son? Or how about a 60 year old man marrying a 9 year old girl? How about multiple group marriages between consenting adults? Where do you draw the line? You do not understand that with homosexual marriage there is NO marriage. At that point, marriage is meaningless.


16 posted on 05/03/2014 4:17:51 PM PDT by Flavious_Maximus
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To: Flame Retardant
Ultimately, the only way to solve the problem is to disentangle the whole issue from the state.

I agree. This would also help those older folks who might want to marry in a church, but don't want their legal lives entangled. Their Social Security wouldn't be affected, nor would any tax matters.

17 posted on 05/03/2014 4:18:28 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: lbryce

These people are not “Christian Leaders.” They are generals in Satan’s Army.


18 posted on 05/03/2014 4:25:23 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: lbryce

There’s a difference between being “religious” and being a Christian. Jesus wasn’t all that religious.


19 posted on 05/03/2014 4:48:30 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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To: lbryce

They are pretending to be Christian and arguing that gays should be allowed to pretend to be married. I prefer the real world, without playing make-believe.


20 posted on 05/03/2014 5:45:03 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: DJ MacWoW
It is a moral duty to say so and NOT to condone calling God a liar.

I agree.But my thinking,at the moment,is along the lines of "Church vs State".Legislators,and others in government,can ensure that God's basic law is enacted into legislation,as has been done here for the last 200 years.But only in the last few years have judges (unaccountable terrorist in black robes) and certain cowardly,or amoral,politicians challenged that "settled law".They'll get their reward (or punishment) in the next life.But politicians shouldn't be able to *compel* a religion to teach a certain thing...or *not* to teach a certain thing.

21 posted on 05/03/2014 5:48:31 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Stalin Blamed The Kulaks,Obama Blames The Tea Party)
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But politicians shouldn't be able to *compel* a religion to teach a certain thing...or *not* to teach a certain thing.

Absolutely agree.

22 posted on 05/03/2014 5:56:50 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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NO, but we love them. We pray that Christ turns their hearts around so that instead of condemning people to Hell, by not sharing with them the Truth of the Gospel-that Jesus can save from this destructive life, we pray that they would be saved and “come to the knowledge of the truth”!


23 posted on 05/03/2014 6:35:20 PM PDT by JSDude1 (Defeat Hagan, elect a Constutional Conservative: Dr. Greg Brannon!)
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