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We Must Do It For The Children
TRC Magazine ^ | 4/30/31 | Chuck Ness

Posted on 05/03/2014 5:33:42 PM PDT by OneVike



In the mid 1980’s, politicians convinced the citizens in state after state that lotteries would supply the needed cash for their education systems. The voters couldn’t resist the campaigns that promised to improve the education of their children. As of today, 44 states are involved in some sort of lottery where a portion of the earnings are used specifically for the education of their children. Unfortunately, the expected jackpot never materialized for the purpose it was intended. Instead we learned that state after state has been caught using the funds for programs other than education. Even if all the money was used as allocated, it would fall substantially short of the promises made to the voters.

Politicians also made the promise that the children would be the big winners if the people just voted to legalize gambling in their states. So in state after state the voters either voted for initiatives or elected officials who passed...

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Coming from a big family living in poverty, I know first hand how the poverty pimps will use others poverty and misfortune to advance their own political career.

Forty years later, I still have a couple of siblings living off the government. Even though I have always been able to do succeed while another brother owns a construction business he built from scratch, they cannot see the connection between our hard work and success.

Meanwhile those siblings are still barely subsisting on the government dole as they buy into every promise the leftist politicians sell them.

They are the ones who vote for Democrats, election after election with the hopes that the next big government program will make their child's life better than theirs was.

1 posted on 05/03/2014 5:33:42 PM PDT by OneVike
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2 posted on 05/03/2014 5:38:23 PM PDT by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.- Sarah Palin)
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To: OneVike
In Mississippi, they finally ended Prohibition in 1966 by saying all the alcohol funding would go towards "education". When they legalized the Casino, it was "for education". Any sales tax increase was "for the children".

If all the money Mississippi raised taxes for actually went "to the children", the kids would be driven to class in limos, have 9 5-* meals to choose from for lunch, and the teachers would have 6-figure salaries.

3 posted on 05/03/2014 5:41:29 PM PDT by MuttTheHoople (Nothing is more savage and brutal than justifiably angry Americans. Don’t believe me? Ask the Germa)
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To: MuttTheHoople

Yea, instead, the politicians, bureaucrats, teachers, school administrators, and Union Bosses are all riding those limos while the children are dumber than the children graduating in 3rd world countries.


4 posted on 05/03/2014 5:48:31 PM PDT by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting for a ride home)
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To: MuttTheHoople

Here in Jersey they said casino gambling was for ‘’education’’. When they set up the lottery, that was for ‘’education’’, The state income tax and the state sales tax were supposed to be for ‘’education’’. Education here is funded by property taxes. New Jersey is one of the few states that funds education through property taxes. All this tax on ‘’education’’ and it seems the longer kids stay in school here the dumber they get while the rest of us are going broke.


5 posted on 05/03/2014 5:51:53 PM PDT by jmacusa
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To: MuttTheHoople

Here in NJ, they sold the people the same line of BS; while our teachers’ salaries are among the highest in the nation and we provide free breakfast, lunch, aftercare, etc. WE STILL HAVE THE HIGHEST SCHOOL TAXES IN THE COUNTRY. What a hoax...


6 posted on 05/03/2014 5:54:09 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: OneVike

Here in GA, our son went to college using a combination of the “Hope Scholarship” from lottery funds and a few other minor scholarships. It wasn’t an Ivy League school, but he kept the “B” average as was required and graduated with not one cent owed for student loans.


7 posted on 05/03/2014 5:59:22 PM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: freeangel

Sounds like a program that should be used in every school district across the country.


8 posted on 05/03/2014 6:02:56 PM PDT by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting for a ride home)
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To: kearnyirish2

A/C was also suppose to fund the aged and the handicapped from Casino profits and never happened! Property taxes in this State are ridiculous a home like the one I live in, the tax per year is over 9k where the same house in my home state is about 900 dollars!
Government workers and Their Unions have obtained pensions of better that 200,000 per year. Retirement at 50. Many have second jobs in the same field they were working at state expense. Some had two jobs and have a pension upwards of 400,000. The Taxpayer cannot sustain this. Christie is trying to address it but the Dems carry on with present policy!


9 posted on 05/03/2014 6:04:01 PM PDT by DocJhn
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Incredible; it seems the aged are funding AC instead. Taxpayers (companies and the workers able to go with them) are fleeing the state in droves, and while Christie is trying I don’t see how he can stop it. He has capped the property tax increases that were swollen by our public sector, but the taxes are still so high private employers won;t stand for it with so many alternatives. Soon companies willing to weather the high taxes will be leaving because they can’t find qualified employees (as those that can, leave - and are replaced by Third World immigrants and unemployable gibsmedats); the future looks dark for the NYC metro area.


10 posted on 05/03/2014 6:26:36 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: OneVike
I don't recall any state saying that all of the money earned from the lottery would go to education.

We are also spending a lot more on education now than when state lotteries started, even accounting for inflation. Where has it gotten us? More "educrats" who come up with zero tolerance rules because they're too stupid to figure out how to deal with school problems (and they collect a healthy paycheck compared to the teachers). They're too busy trying to work Leftist propaganda into the curriculum.

How is it that we could pay for everything (schools, roads, etc.) with the low and fewer taxes of the '50s, but we can't with the higher and more taxes we have today?

11 posted on 05/03/2014 6:26:47 PM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: jeffc

Politicians were not becoming millionaires while sitting in office in the 50’s.


12 posted on 05/03/2014 6:46:37 PM PDT by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting for a ride home)
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To: OneVike
DEMOCRATS,
For The Children



Elian Gonzalez Seized



The Federal Siege at Ruby Ridge: In Our Own Words



WACO SIEGE EXPOSED



13 posted on 05/03/2014 6:47:27 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: OneVike
As of today, 44 states are involved in some sort of lottery where a portion of the earnings are used specifically for the education of their children.

I'd place good money on the FACT that the PARENTS of these children have spent MORE money trying to win the elusive jackpot than their schools EVER get to see!

14 posted on 05/03/2014 7:06:56 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: DocJhn
You mean...

We've been LIED to????


15 posted on 05/03/2014 7:08:13 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

LOL... Yup, and I do believe your right about those parents Elsie.


16 posted on 05/03/2014 7:11:13 PM PDT by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting for a ride home)
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To: OneVike
Meanwhile those siblings are still barely subsisting on the government dole as they buy into every promise the leftist politicians sell them. They are the ones who vote for Democrats, election after election with the hopes that the next big government program will make their child's life better than theirs was.

What elite democrats are doing is cruel... thanks for sharing.

17 posted on 05/03/2014 7:16:02 PM PDT by GOPJ
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To: freeangel
Yeah my daughter is going to UGA on the "Hope Scholarship," on teh Zell Miller scholarship, which pays 97% of tuition.

I still have to pay over $12K a year for housing, meal plan and "student activity fees."

When I went to UGA in the late 80's I paid for it out of a bar manager's salary + tips. About $3500 a semester for everything except car expenses.

18 posted on 05/03/2014 7:16:09 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: OneVike

Is that a personal photo of yours? I seem to recall it from a personal story you posted on another topic. The photo captures a lot.


19 posted on 05/03/2014 7:16:53 PM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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To: 21twelve

Yes.

I am the baby being held by my mother. The photo was taken in 1957 in Fargo ND.

Good memory.

I thought the pic would fit better than the one the editor used on the web site.


20 posted on 05/03/2014 8:01:55 PM PDT by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting for a ride home)
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To: OneVike

That’s what I thought. Perhaps the photo is so memorable because of the great story you had to go with it!


21 posted on 05/03/2014 8:03:56 PM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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To: 21twelve

I have been reading the “The Revolution Was”, that is at the URL in your tagline. It is profoundly similar to what the left is doing under Obama.

I am going to post it to a blog I have that I never use for reference and safe keeping.

I’ll send you the link when I get it up so you can refer to it and grab it to re-post at FR whenever you feel the need.

Thanks for the subliminal suggestion.


22 posted on 05/03/2014 9:17:32 PM PDT by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting for a ride home)
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To: OneVike
I voted yes for the lottery here in California years ago.
I listened to all the political hype and promises and knew it was all BULLSH#T. I was a school district employee at the time and knew even then that the school system would see about 1% if they were lucky, and that 1% would be wasted on crap programs or new carpets for the administrators.
I voted yes anyway, because people want to gamble and I would prefer that the money was at least wasted in California rather than in Nevada. YOU CAN'T LEGISLATE MORALITY.
23 posted on 05/03/2014 10:01:12 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: OneVike

So you know what they mean when they say they would disarm us “for the children”.


24 posted on 05/03/2014 11:01:37 PM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: 5th MEB; JesusBmyGod; buffyt; rom; persistence48; Hanna548; DvdMom; leftyontheright; FrdmLvr; ...
Is there anyone else who thinks we cannot legislate morality like 5th MEB does?
I voted yes for the lottery here in California years ago............I voted yes anyway, because people want to gamble and I would prefer that the money was at least wasted in California rather than in Nevada. YOU CAN'T LEGISLATE MORALITY.

I think, no I know you are wrong. You know why I know your wrong MEB? Because we legislate morality all the time. What you believe is a lie born from hell and taught to humans by evil people who cannot stand the Christian morals.

Look what they did with abortion. Before Roe vs Wade became the law of the land, 99.99% of Americans were against abortion. 40 years after the Supreme Court ruled in favor of it, we cannot get enough US Senators elected to get the judges appointed that will stand with Americans who want to stop it.

We legislate morality all the time. It just comes down to who's morality we are legislating.

Today, in California schools we have laws that have been legislated to allow young grade school children to be taught and encouraged to practice homosexuality. We also have a law in California that states if a parent or psychologist tries to change a teens decision to be gay, they can either remove the child from the home, have the parent convicted of child endangerment and sent to jail, or both which would probably happen.

It is but who's morality we are legislating. We are having depravity legislated in American that allows influences the next generation of children, just as the current adults have been influenced by past legislation.

I promise you this. In 5 years the vast majority of children in the state of California who will be in their teens will have practiced homosexuality or lesbianism because the state of California has legislated their morality into the public school system.

Back in the 1970's, the states legislated that schools will teach sex education, eventually they legislated it to be taught to grade school children. Because the left's morality has been legislated into the brains of the children while they attended public school, less than 5% of Americans are virgins when they get married, and the rate of STD's has skyrocketed among teens.

Still think you cannot legislate morality?

I'll tell you what, the left knows you can. They just want to be sure it's their morality instead of the morality of Christians. So they legislated their morality into a system that will train our children into becoming Socialist, hedonistic, sluts, queers, lesbians, and atheists.

Still think you cannot legislate morality? I think I would rather have the morality of the 50's when we knew we could. Even if it wasn't perfect, at least we weren't living in a fascist state that legislates all the morals of hell into our society.

25 posted on 05/03/2014 11:38:39 PM PDT by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting for a ride home)
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We legislate morality all the time. It just comes down to who's morality we are legislating.

That's a fact.

26 posted on 05/03/2014 11:51:50 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: OneVike

You need to understand the difference between “morally wrong” and “wrong.”

Abortion is “morally wrong.” That means you have no right to legislate against it.

Racial discrimination is “wrong.” That means we must legislate against it.

Go it?


27 posted on 05/04/2014 2:57:14 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: 5th MEB
YOU CAN'T LEGISLATE MORALITY.

Then EVERY law is useless!

28 posted on 05/04/2014 3:02:38 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Arthur McGowan
You need to understand the difference between “morally wrong” and “wrong.”

“morally wrong...”






Are you still killing your unborn?

-- GOD


 

29 posted on 05/04/2014 3:06:45 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Arthur McGowan
You need to understand the difference between “morally wrong” and “wrong.”

“wrong...”




I'd like to thank the United States Government for protecting me and my kind.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
You see, 40 years ago, my odds of making it out of the egg, alive, were very poor; about 80% of us died. 
 (http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=rachel-carson-silent-spring-1972-ddt-ban-birds-thrive)
 
 
But a lady discovered our plight and wrote a book that addressed our problem,
and, in 1972, a law was ammended protecting us even further. (http://www.fws.gov/midwest/eagle/protect/laws.html)
 
 
 
 
 
 
What I find strange is that the same government passed a law the very next year that allowed for killing
of unborn, and apparently unwanted, humans.  Little ones still nestled safely in their Mother's womb.
Around 25% of them are dying before birth - on average nearly 3,300 - every day of the year.
 
 
I hear that by now, somewhere around 55 MILLION of them have perished.
Wouldn't that kind of mess up the humans plans for growth, and welfare, and
retirement?
 
 
 
 
 
Strange birds; these Homo Sapiens.  Perhaps they'll come to their senses
before they are ALL dead!
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

30 posted on 05/04/2014 3:07:28 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: OneVike

I believe you are very right. A man with no core beliefs will accept any thing to fill the void. It doesn’t seem to matter how abhorrent to our formerly sane society it might be. Nazi death camps, Russian pits filled with executed bodies, Chinese lining up people against walls, Muslims beheading Christians and on and on it goes.
When a society loses its belief that man is not an animal then we are just another animal to be slaughtered. That is the idea behind Roe V. Wade, born homosexual, the state stealing the authority of parents over their children, the power of the state over the individual, we have allowed the government to create generations that are no longer truly human. We know how this will turn out.


31 posted on 05/04/2014 5:34:49 AM PDT by Foundahardheadedwoman (God don't have a statute of limitations)
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To: OneVike
We legislate morality all the time. It just comes down to who's morality we are legislating.

Soooo very true, dear OneVike!
32 posted on 05/04/2014 6:39:07 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Arthur McGowan

Silly me, What was I thinking?

/s


33 posted on 05/04/2014 7:12:47 AM PDT by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting for a ride home)
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To: OneVike

**The voters couldn’t resist the campaigns that promised to improve the education of their children. **

One thing I voted against.

It hasn’t worked has it?

At least I am not seeing any improvements in public education.


34 posted on 05/04/2014 7:21:55 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: OneVike

+5


35 posted on 05/04/2014 8:26:49 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: Alamo-Girl; OneVike

>>We legislate morality all the time. It just comes down to who’s morality we are legislating.<<

This is a keeper. The sardonic irony is the way the the left makes a big to-do about something as “outrageous” & then proceeds to do exactly that. “Keep your hands off my body” & then, 0bamacare. “Save the whatever”...UNLESS it’s “green energy” that’s killing it. (That’s okay) It goes on & on.
It’s a con game.


36 posted on 05/04/2014 8:31:42 AM PDT by KGeorge (Till we're together again, Gypsy girl. May 28, 1998- June 3, 2013)
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To: TheOldLady

Huh????


37 posted on 05/04/2014 8:33:22 AM PDT by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting for a ride home)
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To: OneVike

High praise for a great post, my friend.


38 posted on 05/04/2014 8:38:36 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: TheOldLady

Wow, thanks. I am honored.

:)


39 posted on 05/04/2014 9:37:48 AM PDT by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting for a ride home)
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To: OneVike

;-)


40 posted on 05/04/2014 9:59:04 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: OneVike

>>I think, no I know you are wrong. You know why I know your wrong MEB? Because we legislate morality all the time. What you believe is a lie born from hell and taught to humans by evil people who cannot stand the Christian morals.

Perhaps we are looking at it wrong. You can’t legislate morality, but your certainly CAN legislate immorality!


41 posted on 05/04/2014 10:52:35 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Elsie

Perhaps I should have said the government can’t legislate MY MORALITY.
The Lord God gave mankind a specific set of rules to live by, the lord Jesus tried to interpret those rules for us, I try (not always successful) to live by those rules.
I do not recognize, nor do I chose to live by the laws and rules that are set by corrupt legislators or corrupt courts that are contrary to the laws of God.
In most cases; where it will not harm society I try to render unto Caesar what is his, in some cases I ignore Caesar or just tell him to go to hell.
And yes; I have suffered the consequences of of my opinions and actions, as I am reasonably sure I will do in the future when I get stubborn again.


42 posted on 05/04/2014 2:00:39 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: Bryanw92

Something to consider.


43 posted on 05/04/2014 2:58:25 PM PDT by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting for a ride home)
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To: Elsie
Not every law. Some laws make sense in order to have a civilized society where every one is free to chose how they want to live as long as it hurts/impacts no one else.
Prohibition is a good example of bad man-made law that made, what some would say were bad habits even worse. It actually led to more drinking and more violence in society than they had before.
Another example of bad man-made law is ROE v WADE; it impacts, with lethal effect the third party that nobody ever wants to mention in the courts of man, the unborn child who will never get their day in court.
Drug laws, liquor laws, gambling laws, prostitution laws; these are all laws that try to regulate human behavior and that can't be accomplished short of an extreme police state.
Even though some of these things are illegal some people still do them and some people will always do them.
And before you ask; no I don't do drugs, never have, liquor only in very moderate amounts, don't gamble at all, worked to hard for what I have and prostitutes never interested me, been a disgustingly happily married man for 36 years now.
Some things can be sensibly legislated and acted into law.
Safety: Storage of hazardous waste, speed limits, safety equipment requirements, licensing requirements for engineers and pilots or drivers, and many other items in the same category.
Property rights: Supreme Court pretty well destroyed those on eminent domain.
Voting Rights: Although I disagree on some points there.
Civil Rights: Been there done that, it's called THE BILL OF RIGHTS.
There are many other categories of course; so obviously not all laws are useless for a civilized society, but many of the ones that have been shoved down our throats by an out of control congress and executive ARE USELESS and should be ignored at the least and overturned at best.
44 posted on 05/04/2014 2:59:17 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: 5th MEB

My long lost Brother!!!! ;^)


45 posted on 05/04/2014 3:10:15 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: OneVike

We have won no victory for Christ if we somehow automagically swap one nanny state for another one. Because we are exalting Caesar, not God.

This is why the nonintuitive road of libertarianism is a necessary part of any restoration. Do we want to be Christian or do we want to be a biblesque version of secular humanistic?


46 posted on 05/04/2014 5:31:01 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: OneVike

Have we forgot the Hitlerjugend? What was its purpose but to indoctrinate national socialism. But indeed what is the purpose of a school but to indoctrinate children in values and morality. All the while the public schools treat education as a “process,” where the children are left free to believe what they will.


47 posted on 05/04/2014 9:02:38 PM PDT by RobbyS (quotes)
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To: RobbyS

Not today, public schools indoctrinate far-left ideology


48 posted on 05/04/2014 9:07:59 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: OneVike

From an unknown speaker on this subject:

“a stop sign legislates morality”


49 posted on 05/05/2014 5:14:38 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

That’s good.

Thanks


50 posted on 05/05/2014 8:44:19 AM PDT by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting for a ride home)
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