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Why South African whites are coming home
BBC News ^ | 2 May 2014

Posted on 05/03/2014 7:36:35 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican

Hundreds of thousands of whites left South Africa following the ANC's landslide election victory in 1994. Twenty years on, the exodus shows signs of slowing, even reversing. Jane Flanagan spoke to some of those who have returned.

Nicky and Craig Irving spent five years in Australia before moving back to Cape Town with their three daughters.

They were among the last members of their respective families to emigrate amid fears over the crime wave that swept South Africa during the 1990s.

"The challenge to us from our relatives who had left was 'How can you raise your children in a country that is so violent and has no future'," Mrs Irving recalls.

"Our girls were 10, seven and nearly one at the time. We felt vulnerable living in South Africa, so leaving seemed the obvious thing to do."

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: africa; southafrica

1 posted on 05/03/2014 7:36:35 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

“”We could have decided to stay in Australia which, as people kept telling us, was a safe place for our children, but we decided to come back and try and make South Africa a safer place for all its children.”

Liberals! They just never learn...

“We all stood there with tears running down our cheeks. I had grown up with so much shame about the colour of my skin, but Nelson Mandela really did change that for a lot of white South Africans. I knew then that I had to go home.”

I wish them luck. They will need it, ‘cuz they sure don’t have smarts!


2 posted on 05/03/2014 7:39:38 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (I sooooo miss America!)
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To: MinorityRepublican
Ms Jones describes it as a "genuine feeling of being alive" that South Africans do not experience in new lives overseas

She's going to have to worry about simply being alive if she stays there.

3 posted on 05/03/2014 7:42:26 PM PDT by MUDDOG
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“We all stood there with tears running down our cheeks. I had grown up with so much shame about the colour of my skin, but Nelson Mandela really did change that for a lot of white South Africans. I knew then that I had to go home. It was the most amazing moment.”

Oh, brother.


4 posted on 05/03/2014 7:42:38 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: MinorityRepublican
dragging children back to that sh!thole, is child abuse...
5 posted on 05/03/2014 7:43:47 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: MinorityRepublican
"Nicky and Craig Irving spent five years in Australia before moving back to Cape Town with their three daughters."

Bad move on the Irving's part. Terrible.

"Our girls were 10, seven and nearly one at the time. We felt vulnerable living in South Africa, so leaving seemed the obvious thing to do.""

Those were your survival instincts kicking in. You should listen to them and take the correct action. Psst .... get the hell out of there and don't look back!

6 posted on 05/03/2014 7:44:22 PM PDT by StormEye
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To: Mr Rogers

The English whites left. Afrikaners - who have no other fatherland, had to stay.

At 10% of the population, white South Africa is a shadow of when whites were 20% of the population and basically ran the country.

Post-apartheid South Africa is very difficult for them to live in. With all the problems, they’re still the largest minority group in the country.


7 posted on 05/03/2014 7:44:40 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: MinorityRepublican
Are these people delusional? Did they make such failed lives elsewhere?

People don't emigrate or immigrate or any kind of -grate unless things are collapsing in their present location.

8 posted on 05/03/2014 7:45:15 PM PDT by stevem
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To: Chode

White neighborhoods are secure, calm and crime free. The white suburbs are a world apart from Black South Africa. Whites have a First World standard of living and security.

Other parts of the country are not so fortunate.


9 posted on 05/03/2014 7:47:25 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: stevem

Many people moved because they feared the worst. Generally speaking, they their country and how bad it really is. It probably is somewhat better in reality than how it is often portrayed.

I wish them well and hope it can be made to work.


10 posted on 05/03/2014 7:50:41 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: goldstategop
that's fine, so long as they NEVER have to leave those areas... good luck with that
11 posted on 05/03/2014 7:50:41 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: stevem

No. Every one loves the land of their birth and you don’t feel the same when you live abroad.

There is a sense if you try to make a go of it, then it will work out in the end. For some of course, they can never adapt to being home again.

South African whites are not colonialists. They were the first free African people in an era when the West subjugated Africa to its will.

That history and feeling of being African will never leave someone who was born there.


12 posted on 05/03/2014 7:52:28 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Color me skeptical. Note the source: BBC.


13 posted on 05/03/2014 7:53:40 PM PDT by Robwin
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To: MinorityRepublican
If property rights and civil liberties are respected and the government doesn't start taking pages out of Mugabe's playbook then the only major issue to consider is crime,IMO.Many risks in living there...black or white.
14 posted on 05/03/2014 8:05:13 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Stalin Blamed The Kulaks,Obama Blames The Tea Party)
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To: Jonty30; goldstategop
I wish anyone well who moves for a just cause.

I know a white woman who moved to my state from South Africa on a one year work visa that was extended to a second and last year. In her time here she became a figurative member of the family i.e. a member of the family.

She never said this, but it was obvious to anyone who cared to look that her goal was to marry a US citizen so she would not have to go back to South Africa.

She has told me some horror stories about her home town such that I wouldn't wish them on my worst enemy.

She did marry that guy. They have been married about four years and have one child.

I think the world of her and think she is a resounding asset to the United States. I hope she never gets the urge to draw her family back to her roots.

I believe her stories of her home town.

If another soul thinks he or she can go to such an environment and improve things, the only thing I can say is, "May God go with you," and offer encouragement.

15 posted on 05/03/2014 8:10:14 PM PDT by stevem
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To: MinorityRepublican
I wish them well. One could counsel them to think with the head, not with the emotion though.

The there is one Oscar Pistorius. His mansion looked like a fortress. The rolls of barbed wire on top of the wall, would have wrenched human flesh. Then, out of the blue, he claims an intruder had forced his way in. Quoting cases of persons who did have intruders force their way in his defense.

The list of white farm people murdered has reached incredible proportions. Who the hell did farm people hurt anyway?

16 posted on 05/03/2014 8:25:24 PM PDT by Peter Libra
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To: MinorityRepublican

South Africa is a massacre just waiting to happen


17 posted on 05/03/2014 8:43:08 PM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Lefftism is a mental illness and a group suicide strategy.


18 posted on 05/03/2014 9:10:11 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: goldstategop
White neighborhoods are secure, calm and crime free.

Not exactly. Friend of a friend was taken out by an AK-wielding carjacker. Gotta love those Russian scumbags.

19 posted on 05/03/2014 9:14:12 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Mr Rogers

http://www.thetruthaboutsouthafrica.com/p/white-genocide-in-south-africa.html
This is what is going on there..


20 posted on 05/03/2014 11:23:10 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Jonty30

I used to work with some people that left south africa. In every class at school there were 1 or 2 kids who had lost a parent to murder. Every class

They left when a neighbor was murdered despite having 12 foot tall fences around the neighborhood and four armed guards for 60 houses.

About 10 people and they all had the same stories.


21 posted on 05/04/2014 2:51:50 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: sheik yerbouty

They remind me of some I know who live in LIB/DIM states. The best thing to do is leave but they hang on “hoping” for some sort of positive change. It will never happen in these LIB/DIM havens. All they have to look forward to is paying more taxes for LIB/DIM “programs”, growing populations of fewals and other losers and isolation. It is as if they have Stockholm Syndrome.


22 posted on 05/04/2014 6:21:53 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: driftdiver

It looks like to me that they believe the risk is manageable.


23 posted on 05/04/2014 7:09:03 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: driftdiver

There are at least two South African families at our church. They emphasized that they came here for safety, though immigration law considers them less desirable than if they were black Nigerians.


24 posted on 05/04/2014 7:24:58 AM PDT by tbw2
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To: goldstategop
Afrikaners - who have no other fatherland, had to stay.

Sucks to be an Afrikaner right now. But during Apartheid they deliberately kept Blacks as second class citizens and didn't include them in government, so right now chickens came home to roost.

25 posted on 05/04/2014 12:52:14 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: goldstategop

If only the Boers kicked the Brits out, South Africa would be in much better shape today.


26 posted on 05/04/2014 12:54:33 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: hal ogen

Stockholm Syndrome can sometimes be fatal..


27 posted on 05/04/2014 8:41:26 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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