Skip to comments.G.O.P. Hopeful Finds Tribal Tie Cuts Both Ways
Posted on 05/04/2014 12:19:45 AM PDT by ObamahatesPACoal
BARTLESVILLE, Okla. T. W. Shannon will be Oklahomas first black senator if he wins the Republican nomination and is elected this November, but the quiet campaign stirring here about Mr. Shannons racial loyalties is not aimed at the African-American branch of his family tree.
Mr. Shannon, whose first name is Tahrohon, is a member of the Chickasaw Nation, the most influential tribe in a state where Native Americans are not merely the inheritors of a poignant history but also collectively constitute the states largest nongovernment employer outside of Walmart.
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He’s an American, period.
Lankford is a Baptist, and I have had some really nasty experiences with Baptists. Why? Because I am a Roman Catholic and Baptists have made a point of demonizing us.
“Racial Loyalty” what the hell is that??? If a white advocates that, isn’t that racism?? Is that what the New York Slimes is advocating ??
“Because I am a Roman Catholic and Baptists have made a point of demonizing us.”
With all the derision and divisive tacts by the left to drive wedges between us, I can hardly believe you went there. Did you forget the last five words of the 1st? I trust you do know this goes as far back as what created The Church of England and beyond?
I will not point blame at any side of this stupid “us and them” attitude, but yes, we are Americans first.
Us vs. them is a human condition, not a particularly American affliction. It was rooted in basic survival of the species but is now used to create divisions and diversions, as both of you point out.
Did I miss something in her comment? Her first point was that TW is just an American and then she brings up the issue of her perception of the Baptists condemning Roman Catholics today. She setup the point, I just reminded her of the plight of the founders and the little remembered last five words of the 1st amendment.
There are fools, idiots and just plain nasty people who reside on the edges just to stir up trouble, always will be. But to give them credence by castigating ALL members of one side or the other does nothing to resolve the divisions just as it does with the racial upheavals we are experiencing today. It was a totally unnecessary point to make, period.
I don’t deny her the right to express it, I just exercised my right to let her know I think she was totally out of place to bring it up in the way she did. I would think that EVERYONE who wants to have a discussion about the friction between those parties, needs to do a lot of reading and research before castigating everyone of any particular Christian sect of belief. It was the action of a particular sect that drove our founders to look for a new place to go to have the freedom to worship as they pleased without being ostracized and downright persecuted even to being burned at the stake.
The founders came to this country overwhelmingly with what is called the 1599 Geneva Bible as the version of choice. Just that translation alone was the reason that the monarchy of King James (1603-1625) and beyond persecuted those who chose to use it for their own personal enlightenment of God’s words rather than be beholden to the interpretation of the King’s Bishops. The King James version was created by a King for his own gains of his collective and not those of the individual. The history of his predecessor, Queen Elizabeth I, and the upheavals before and during her reign are a prime example of what she and the faiths went through around that time to include attempted genocide. Through all of this, the Roman Catholic church at the time was not a clean hands player along with all the rest.
So enough of my rant. Just EVERYONE please educate yourself before casting dispersions because remember, when pointing a finger at anyone, there are three more pointing back a you.
Forgive me for going all grammar police on you, but the phrase you want is "casting aspersions" and not "casting dispersions". Aspersion is an attack on the integrity of someone. Dispersion is distributing something over a wide area.
Did she not declare that (all) Baptists . . .
Casting an educated dispersion...
Freedom of religion is important. It can be called tolerance but I believe it goes deeper than that.
I look at attacks on people just because of their religion or faith to be evil. The exception is when a particular religion is NOT truly a religion but a world-wide cult and whole system faith that brings death down others, such as Islam.
I agree totally with your last statement, but you fell into the trap of inferring ALL of a particular Christian faith. We need to be very careful and mindful about such dispersions.
I live by being mindful of how I live my life because I am fully aware that I might be the only Bible that most will ever read.
“be only the second enrolled tribal member to join the Senate in nearly 100 years; Ben Nighthorse Campbell of Colorado was first, in 1993.”
What about Charles Curtis who was a senator from Kansas and later VP under Hoover.
“He was enrolled in the Kaw tribe and his maternal ancestry was three-quarters Native American: Kaw, Osage and Potawatomi.[not in citation given] His father was European-American.” Wikipedia