Skip to comments.Eleven Arrested over Missing Malaysian Airlines Flight
Posted on 05/04/2014 1:22:20 AM PDT by moose07
Eleven Al Qaeda-linked terrorists were arrested in Kuala Lumpur on Saturday, according to the Daily Mail, in connection to the disappearance of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 in March.
The eleven, whose ages range from 22 to 55 and include students, business professionals, odd-job workers and even a young widow, are being questioned intensively over the flight after an investigation by several intelligence organizations.
Despite repeated denials that the flight's disappearance was a terror attack, Malaysian officials finally admitted after the arrests that the new development raises the possibility of Al Qaeda's involvement.
"The possibility that the plane was diverted by militants is still high on the list and international investigators have asked for a comprehensive report on this new terror group," an officer with the Counter Terrorism Division of Malaysian Special Branch stated to the daily on Friday.
He added that some suspects have already admitted to planning "sustained terror campaigns" in Malaysia but denied being involved with the disappearance.
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If true, this will be when CNN stops their “extended” coverage.
Unusual for it not to have been ‘Claimed’ by anyone.
Not if it was a failed mission.
Plus we have already heard that all the passengers were cleared of anything suspicious...
I think they are just grasping at straws to look like they are doing something.
Or if they intended to use the plane later...
Adding complexity when better muted doesn’t help Malaysia Airlines in my opinion. Maybe an unrelated terror network was uncovered, and MA is reaching for a connection.
Sure is a mystery.
In the first few weeks after the plane’s disappearance, the pilots were cleared of suspicion, then the whole flight of passengers were cleared. But a few weeks ago in mid April, I heard a Malaysian official say that “No one (who was) on the plane is completely free of suspicion. A few days later, they were back to suspecting anyone. I don’t think it was pilot suicide. I believe it was terrorism that didnt go as planned.
Nothing was gained by the terrorists, therefore, they had no actual bragging rights. Give it three years tops, the truth will come out. This is too big to remain an unsolved mystery.
Then we’re back around to “The Malaysian Government shot it down to head off a suicide attack, and for dozens of reasons no government dares admit it.”
Have drifted down that road,
But ‘why?’ , as if they would need a fathomable reason.
It’s likely the Malaysian gubmint monkeys haven’t learned the First Rule of Holes: When you find yourself in one, stop digging!
...well, at least they got to finish the semester! My daughter comes home from college tomorrow.
Exactly... it also jives with the “don’t deviate from flight paths for any reason” posts that the FAA put out shortly after to American pilots that were posted here.
Well...Since is Islam is involved...again...It will be quickly analysed by the MSM and a general conclusion of “if muslims hadn’t been abused this would never have happened.”...or blame it on climate change and income inequality.
You are correct sir.
Bingo. They built runways on pacific islands that could handle B-29s in a few days. This bird is down and waiting.
“Bingo. They built runways on pacific islands that could handle B-29s in a few days. This bird is down and waiting.”
Ditto Bingo. Was my first reaction to this whole affair. Explains why there is no wreckage, and why the muslims haven’t publicly celebrated another victory. Cuz it’s not over yet.
Possibly it is going as planned.
Morning Moose, from this local. Agreement on is a mystery. An incomplete mystery till found for this disappearance of passengers, crew and plane. Too many conflicting stories. Too many completely baseless theories. Too many theories yet to be resolved. Most difficult is forming an opinion based in fact till some facts emerge. The only facts known for certain (imho) are the passengers, crew and plane is missing. Not much after all this time.
There are one or two interesting coincidences but not enough for a full blown conspiracy theory.
Agreed ,Best left as a mystery, for now.
Inspector General of Police: 11 terror suspects not linked to MH370
>>Unusual for it not to have been Claimed by anyone.
I think it probably was by the pilot - a suicide note of some sort, but it’ll never see the light of day.
any WWII runways left dorment ?
A plan to use such a jet for attack only works if you turn it around quickly.
A newly constructed 7000+ foot runway on some island is easy to spot with todays satellites.
The longer that plane sits, the more likely it is found.
Who remembers Chief Moose and his 'angry middle aged white guy in a white panel van' theory?
Thanks for the link. :)
This now creates:
1 oh good, that simplifys things. Or
2 They have stretched the truth to cover something up, again.
I’ll go with the first, for now.
So then which one of them was on the phone with Captain Shah before the flight and during his low flyby of the cell towers on Penang Island???
And which ones were on the plane???
And which of them went on a fishing expedition off of West Java 8 weeks ago???
What part could any of these 11 have played in the hijacking/diversion of the plane???
Yep -- or trying to divert attention from the involvement of their senior pilot in the hijacking.
Dad was a Marine. He was in the second wave that landed on guadlecanal in the Solomons. The marines were volunteered to help regrade Henderson field with the navy Seabees. They used japanese bulldozers and graders. Not happy doing that by the way, being a marine
To answer you... on jungle strips the jungle would quickly reclaim it. On desert strips probably a better chance of it still being there, but also more likely to be a known commodity.
See post 25, it backs up your post 33.
I disagree. If it was terrorists, what could be more terrorizing than "your flight might disappear without a trace?" It's true they didn't get a specific bargaining chip, but then again, when a bomb goes off, there's nothing to bargain with either. They do it for fame, they do it for fun.
With my admittedly limited TV info, I still suspect the pilot, who was under stress from a failed marriage (his wife had just moved out), and who was deeply upset by a political trial on the day of the flight.
How man million square miles are we talking about. Way too much acreage to check out every scar in a jungle. And it could have landed on a real military strip in Pakistan or some other muzzy country like Indonesia, then hidden
IIRC, it was the co-pilot whose phone was in use. He was also the one known for being a “devout Muslim, “ btw.
Flown to a remote runway, passengers disposed of and fitted with new ‘black box’, then flown to a regular airport hanger in Shitholeistan to be fitted with bombs etc and wait for...
They would have only had to hide it for a week or so, and then move it when nobody was looking for it...in the air.
There is a lot of unrecorded, untracted air space in that area.
And they were both Muslims.
The co-pilot’s cellphone was searching for service which means that it could have been turned on when the plane was diverted a half hour earlier before he died and then connected with the tower on Penang as they flew by.
The real question is why they would be flying so low that cellphones onboard would connect with a cell tower — unless the pilot did it deliberately so that he could make a call.
The senior pilot was the one signing off and thus most likely the one at the controls when diverted. The co-pilot was on his rookie flight and thus probably overwhelmed by it all and taken advantage of by the old-timer.
Early on the IGP said that this was more than likely someone on the plane seeking insurance/settlement payoffs and that makes more sense than Muslims killing Muslims with a Muslim plane in a Muslim country.
Yep somehow it seems that for this to happen immediately after the verdict means that somehow it is intertwined with it -- not the only reason -- but the precipitating one.
The pilot’s political party was about as close as you could get to a secularist one, so I don’t see why he’d want to work with AQ to commit an act of terror.
Also - while the story seems to change from day to day - initially there was comment over the fact that it was the co-pilot’s voice that was recorded as giving the sign off or the last recorded words. Not a lot was known about the relatively new co-pilot, whereas the pilot had been flying for years, seemed to have been well-known and liked, etc.
Personally, I think the co-pilot probably overwhelmed the older pilot and forced him to fly someplace, then killing him once they got where they were going. Or maybe they crashed and were all killed before they could reach the intended destination.
It is certainly odd the way the Malaysian government keeps changing their stories, though. I think they probably knew what was going on and were trying to figure out what to do during the five hours between the notification from Vietnam that the flight had never entered their airspace and the time when they acknowledged that there was a problem. But who knows?
It’s an intriguing mystery and almost almost seems unreal, which I guess is why we’re so fascinated by it.
You have to consider the possibility the Malay govt may have taken a page from the Clinton/Obama playbook and staged a terrorist hijacking to blame it on the political opposition.
Think about the failed fertilizer car bomb in NYC in 2010 they tried to blame on the TEA Party so they would be labeled terrorist.
What better way to get the political opposition out of their hair than to have them labeled terrorist?
Pilot found out about it and tried to land the plane somewhere else.
The plane may have been shot down by the Malay govt to keep anyone from finding out the Malay govt planned the hijacking.
like our Democrat Party???
so I dont see why hed want to work with AQ to commit an act of terror.
Like our Democrat Party's handling of Benghazzi??????
But to be fair no one says that this hijacking was AQ. It's an over-reach. It probably has more to do with Anwar Ibrahim's reconviction that night -- though to allege so is political dynamite in that country.
The audio is now public and those who know say that the signoff appears to be the senior pilot Shah.
The co-pilot was on his rookie flight and thus probably not familiar with parts of that plane and what it was capable of -- like dismantling ACARS and transponders, making U-Turns at just the precise moment between ATCs, taking the plane up to 43,000ft for 20 minutes to kill everybody onboard, then dropping to as low as 5,000ft as they cross Malaysia proper to avoid radar but be in the range of celltowers so he could use his phone, flying the plane like a fighter jet, entering the known commercial flight path to the waypoint IGREX in the Andamans to avoid suspicion, flying far enough north and west of Sumatra to avoid Indonesian radar, turning south at just the right time when it could not be seen on radar, and then doubling back flying the plane into waters where the plane could be safely ditched.
Pulling all of this off is well beyond the abilities of a rookie pilot. Even skilled pilots would have trouble with this. That's why the Malaysian call it a "deliberate" action because it was well thought out and well executed.
Two questions the Malaysians have yet to answer:
Why they didn't contact their military??? They contacted the Cambodians, the Thais, the Vietnamese -- why not their own military???
And one lone radar operator didn't say anything when he painted it flying overhead because he said that it was a "friendly". On what basis did he make that determination since usually a plane flying overhead that is unidentifiable and without communication is usually deemed an "unfriendly" flying object until it is identified.
That’s a muslim trait.
Malaysia is a beautiful country, but they wear their “muslim-ness” like some gaudy cartoonish Latin soap-opera.
Why go to all the trouble to build new landing strip when all of Pakistan was rolling out the Welcome mat?
The recently reopened international airstrip at the Shangrala Resort ( its only used by guests in season) was a concrete WWII air strip. It was my first guess on where they landed — if they landed
The only place where the 777 could be if it landed on terra firma is:
Jakarta International Airport (Soekarno-Hatta) on West Java or one of the outlier airports thereof.
The reason is simple — the Inmarsat 8:11 Arc passes right through Jakarta.
And who would think to look for it there???
8 weeks and the name “Jakarta” has not been mentioned by any one of those weighing in on this — and yet why not??
But I’m sure Malaysia has reassurances from Indonesia that it looked everywhere and it couldn’t have breached its radar on West Java and entered its landing pattern. That would be so embarrassing if it did.
You’re right. Ditto Bingo, i.e. I believe that plan is parked somewhere, like in Pakistan, waiting or being prepped for a future task. Whatever happened to that retired colonel or general, etc. who was pretty confident in the early days of this event that the plan was in Pakistan?