Posted on 05/04/2014 6:30:42 AM PDT by WhiskeyX
KGB agents are apparently not taught history, or so it would seem from Vladimir Putin's recent statement that only "God knows" how a portion of southeastern Ukraine ever became part of that country. The Russian president refers to the region as "New Russia," an old idea that has always been — and remains — an aspiration rather than a fact. Luhansk, Donetsk, Odessa and other New Russian cities have been a part of Ukraine for nearly a century. And even before that, they were never truly Russian.
(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...
Unlike the wise Obama, we find that Putin has areas of ignorance.
Putin knows a lot, he was/is KGB.
Does that make him a good guy? NO WAY.
He despises any hint of freedom.
Putin is not superman. He will soon learn he isn’t the only one capable of irregular warfare.
Russian chauvinism and propaganda is inflaming the entire region. Armchair Putinistas haven’t a clue what is going on there.
I’m pretty sure that Putin knows Russian history far better than the Western media and many posters on this board.
Interesting read.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irredentism
Irrendentism is a historic claim on land. This land is ours because it was ours in (pick-a-date.) Or, this land is ours because it was settled by our culture before your culture came along. This claim has been the cause of wars and bad peace settlements like those of World War 1 where practically the whole of Europe was redrawn based on the irredentism of the winners. Often you’ll hear liberals accuse Americans born here of not being natives because they aren’t Indians. (Except for Elizabeth Warren who beat that by declaring she’s an Indian.)
The conclusion I’ve come to is that irredentism is meaningless. It’s what the current owner wants that matters. The problem with irredentism is, to take for example, the area between France and Germany, which history are you referring to? It has changed hands so often that you need charts to keep track. You could say it belongs to Rome if you want to go back that far. There were numerous kings before then too. The point is that the people living there now can’t make a claim that they’re exclusively French or German. Nor can France or Germany make that claim on those people. They simply are what they are and that’s people sharing a very mixed past. But what matters is the present and what the current owner thinks.
According to the author, most of Ukraine was not historically Russian...nor Ukrainian, but rather a melting pot of nationalities. Sort of like the US in general, and NYC in particular.
Do you think Obama will reinstitute the Berlin Airlift when Putin moves West, like in did in Afghanistan?
Historically much of Russia itself was not majority ethnic Russian. Only Sovietization changed that.
So get back to me when Putin gives “federalization” to the Komi, Chechens, etc.
You’re welcome to the Chechens!
So it is possible that he doesn't know very much of it.
Do you think Obama will reinstitute the Berlin Airlift when Putin moves West, like in did in Afghanistan?
Not needed. Ukrainian patriots will give him an ass kicking. Nobody likes Russian chauvinism in Eastern Europe. The bumbling Russians are currently doing their best to inflame the entire region. The old expression don’t write a check with your mouth you can’t cash comes to mind here.
Like they did in the 1920s and 1930s?
Yep - and the leftist "author" doesn't find it hypocritical that the Left has a habit of forgetting (or rewriting) history so they can ignore what it says about their own movements - - - convenient.
Like they did in the 1920s and 1930s?
No like they did Friday and like they will do today.
Traitor Ukrainian police in Odessa just let the foreign national terrorists out of jail. Now the Ukrainian patriots of Odessa will clean up the mess.
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