Skip to comments.CIA, FBI agents 'advising Ukraine government': report
Posted on 05/04/2014 8:23:27 AM PDT by logi_cal869
Berlin (AFP) - Dozens of specialists from the US Central Intelligence Agency and Federal Bureau of Investigation are advising the Ukrainian government, a German newspaper reported Sunday.
Citing unnamed German security sources, Bild am Sonntag said the CIA and FBI agents were helping Kiev end the rebellion in the east of Ukraine and set up a functioning security structure.
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Actually, it is a recipe for disaster. The Ukrainians should run when the CIA/FBI offer their familiar assistance, “we’re from the US Government, and we’re here to help.”
You are guaranteed that if any of your enemies are Muslim, they will know what happens before you do.
Hopefully not from unsecured embassy annex buildings. We know how that sort of thing ends.
“We need help!!!...hello?, hello?, is anybody there?”
For those of us that remember the left of the early and mid 1970s, it is sure strange to be experiencing it all again from an element here at FR.
I think “community agitator” is the phrase you were looking for.
The Russians have been saying that “English Speakers” have been in Kiev, and with units in the field for several weeks now.
This is confirmation.
“Because that worked so well in Libya...”
It worked in Libya, why not Ukraine?? Remember WHO is running this country now.
that’s even better.
The advisers were doing a fine job in Vietnam, just as they are doing around the globe today.
I don't know if you're ascribing opposition to US intervention in Ukraine as leftism...or just wrong-headedness.
I understand that many people who do not undertake any serious study of the facts could do either, or worse: Accuse those who do not support intervention as supporters of Putin, Slavic Fascist Imperialism and Treason against the USA.
If anyone who is an advocate for either side in Ukraine thinks they have some sort of moral high ground they are either delusional or corrupt. Both sides are lying, ruthless murderers.
And Putin probably started it, at least the overt stages.
There's been English speakers in Kiev since the LAST Presidential election there, and German speakers for several years before that.
That’s ok though(as long as it’s not Ruskies getting involved).
Many of the pro-Russia, pro-Putin posters here, are spouting the same anti-Americanism that we used to see in the free papers passed out just outside the gates of our military bases.
Russian sources are pasted all over FR, and I can go here https://www.wsws.org/en/ to read the pro-Russian arguments that I will see many of the posters here making with great passion and self righteous.
If you are old enough to remember the early 1970s, and were reading the left’s radical publishings, then you must see the similarity, actually, the duplication.
How many are actually supporting Russia and Putin? I would think very few.
Most of what I see are folks who are opposed to intervening in Ukraine (or Georgia etc.) because they believe we have no vital US interest there. Certainly that is my position.
But I in NO WAY think the Russians are the good guys.
And neither are the folks in Kiev.
Right..... Plus it lets us yell about Russian operatives. Ours have been there since the start of the first revolution, and now that we are once again failing we are mad about the Russians retaliating.
CIA and NATO etc. toppling governments on the edge of Russia..... This time around we are the aggressor
What does that mean, “intervening, or non-intervening”?
I'm OK with political support, loans (really gifts) etc.
But NOBODY on the ground.
This business will get out of control... it will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it...
The USA is going to help the Ukrainians fight and kill the stupid Russian thug invaders. I am proud to stand with Ukraine against the genocidal anti-American KGB Putin regime.
I served under Reagan, I can’t see his administration being so weak that he couldn’t have found effective ways to exert his power over these events, and I don’t think that he would feel so afraid that he wouldn’t even give any supplies or training, or assistance, or CIA help.
Reagan would not have created a Jimmy Carter/Obama/Rand Paul, libertarian type vacuum, for the world’s bad guys to go on the march in.
Why is a Globalist meatpuppet like Barry Soetoro using the CIA and FBI to secure “freedom, democracy, and prosperity” for the Ukrainian people when he is doing everything he can to destroy freedom, democracy and prosperity for the American people.
We are spouting anti-Globalism. How you can confuse Globalist meatpuppets that control our foreign policy like Barrack Hussein Obama, Hillary Clinton, John Kerry, Juan McLame, George Soros, etc., etc. for pro-Americans is beyond me.
A more like response by Reagan would be to place a dozen squadrons of US Aircraft in Poland and Romania, backed by 4 armored divisions at full readiness.
Hell, that's a fitting response now.
But NOTHING in Ukraine.
Reagan would definitely have the CIA active, and he would have started fighting Putin from the first day he took office, and even at this late stage he would be offering effective resistance and making Russia pay a price, regardless of how you want to falsely portray him.
Reagan would be operating, not just making a show.
Step 1. Blame it on a video
Step 2. Keep repeating it
Step 3. When it all falls apart....Say “What difference does it make now?”
He thinks you can always outsmart the enemy (thus, the intel personnel) and force is never necessary.
Not sure if I’m misreading you, but if you’re misreading me (I guess I couldn’t have been more vague than with just sarcasm)...
...my point is that Libya ended up a vacuum. Besides the point that the Puppet ran us out of Libya as fast as Reagan did Lebanon, the vacuum (ironically in both cases) was filled by terrorist organizations.
Russia will not permit an unstable country on its border. Nor would we (that’s amusing if you take Mexico into account...consider that sarcasm with regards to the US).
What if similar conditions presented and Russia dispatched FSB & KGB to Mexico as ‘advisors’?
Running counter to many, I’m of the opinion ‘let the Russians sort it out’. It’s simply not worth the world of hurt coming down the pike due to the reckless foreign policy of the Puppet. Ya know... if recent events are a guideline...
What does that mean? The USA elected him twice.
And not only that the entire Globalists Establishment including the Democrats, the GOP Leadership, the Chamber of Amnesty, Wall St., the Corporate Media, the District of Criminals bureaucracy, Academia and a whole galaxy of well funded Globalist NGO's are lined up behind him. Or more precisely his is just a figurehead for all of them. All of them have to be defeated too and you won't do that by siding with them against nationalist Russia.