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CIA, FBI agents 'advising Ukraine government': report
AFP via Yahoo ^ | 5/4/2014 | AFP

Posted on 05/04/2014 8:23:27 AM PDT by logi_cal869

Berlin (AFP) - Dozens of specialists from the US Central Intelligence Agency and Federal Bureau of Investigation are advising the Ukrainian government, a German newspaper reported Sunday.

Citing unnamed German security sources, Bild am Sonntag said the CIA and FBI agents were helping Kiev end the rebellion in the east of Ukraine and set up a functioning security structure.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: cabal; cia; democrats; eunwo; fbi; globalists; mccain; nationbuilding; neocons; obama; putinsbuttboys; soros; treason; ukraine
Because that worked so well in Libya.../s
1 posted on 05/04/2014 8:23:28 AM PDT by logi_cal869
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To: logi_cal869
Oh, great. So, basically, The Moose Limb Brothahood is advising Ukrainian officials.

Goodbye, Ukraine.

2 posted on 05/04/2014 8:24:49 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: logi_cal869

Actually, it is a recipe for disaster. The Ukrainians should run when the CIA/FBI offer their familiar assistance, “we’re from the US Government, and we’re here to help.”

You are guaranteed that if any of your enemies are Muslim, they will know what happens before you do.


3 posted on 05/04/2014 8:26:06 AM PDT by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
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To: Texas Eagle

Hopefully not from unsecured embassy annex buildings. We know how that sort of thing ends.
“We need help!!!...hello?, hello?, is anybody there?”


4 posted on 05/04/2014 8:29:51 AM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt ("When you're going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: logi_cal869

For those of us that remember the left of the early and mid 1970s, it is sure strange to be experiencing it all again from an element here at FR.


5 posted on 05/04/2014 8:31:56 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: logi_cal869
The community organizer trouble maker, antagonizer, meddler at his finest work we see.
6 posted on 05/04/2014 8:38:24 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: logi_cal869
"Advisors." Where have we heard that before?


7 posted on 05/04/2014 8:48:36 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: American Constitutionalist

I think “community agitator” is the phrase you were looking for.


8 posted on 05/04/2014 8:49:16 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: logi_cal869

The Russians have been saying that “English Speakers” have been in Kiev, and with units in the field for several weeks now.

This is confirmation.

“Because that worked so well in Libya...”

It worked in Libya, why not Ukraine?? Remember WHO is running this country now.


9 posted on 05/04/2014 8:49:55 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

that’s even better.


10 posted on 05/04/2014 9:02:10 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The advisers were doing a fine job in Vietnam, just as they are doing around the globe today.


11 posted on 05/04/2014 9:20:12 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: ansel12
"For those of us that remember the left of the early and mid 1970s, it is sure strange to be experiencing it all again from an element here at FR."

I don't know if you're ascribing opposition to US intervention in Ukraine as leftism...or just wrong-headedness.

I understand that many people who do not undertake any serious study of the facts could do either, or worse: Accuse those who do not support intervention as supporters of Putin, Slavic Fascist Imperialism and Treason against the USA.

If anyone who is an advocate for either side in Ukraine thinks they have some sort of moral high ground they are either delusional or corrupt. Both sides are lying, ruthless murderers.

And Putin probably started it, at least the overt stages.

12 posted on 05/04/2014 9:30:02 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: tcrlaf
"The Russians have been saying that “English Speakers” have been in Kiev, and with units in the field for several weeks now."

There's been English speakers in Kiev since the LAST Presidential election there, and German speakers for several years before that.

13 posted on 05/04/2014 9:32:44 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: logi_cal869

That’s ok though(as long as it’s not Ruskies getting involved).


14 posted on 05/04/2014 9:37:53 AM PDT by McGruff (I'ts not the crime it's the coverup they said.)
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To: Mariner

Many of the pro-Russia, pro-Putin posters here, are spouting the same anti-Americanism that we used to see in the free papers passed out just outside the gates of our military bases.

Russian sources are pasted all over FR, and I can go here https://www.wsws.org/en/ to read the pro-Russian arguments that I will see many of the posters here making with great passion and self righteous.

If you are old enough to remember the early 1970s, and were reading the left’s radical publishings, then you must see the similarity, actually, the duplication.


15 posted on 05/04/2014 9:41:39 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: ansel12
"Many of the pro-Russia, pro-Putin posters here, are spouting the same anti-Americanism that we used to see in the free papers passed out just outside the gates of our military bases."

How many are actually supporting Russia and Putin? I would think very few.

Most of what I see are folks who are opposed to intervening in Ukraine (or Georgia etc.) because they believe we have no vital US interest there. Certainly that is my position.

But I in NO WAY think the Russians are the good guys.

16 posted on 05/04/2014 9:46:41 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

And neither are the folks in Kiev.


17 posted on 05/04/2014 9:48:17 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: logi_cal869

Right..... Plus it lets us yell about Russian operatives. Ours have been there since the start of the first revolution, and now that we are once again failing we are mad about the Russians retaliating.

CIA and NATO etc. toppling governments on the edge of Russia..... This time around we are the aggressor


18 posted on 05/04/2014 9:49:21 AM PDT by wonkowasright (Wonko from outside the asylum)
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To: Mariner

What does that mean, “intervening, or non-intervening”?


19 posted on 05/04/2014 9:52:17 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: ansel12
Intervention would be to train, supply and organize one side or the other.

I'm OK with political support, loans (really gifts) etc.

But NOBODY on the ground.

20 posted on 05/04/2014 10:02:17 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: logi_cal869

This business will get out of control... it will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it...

21 posted on 05/04/2014 10:03:26 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: logi_cal869

The USA is going to help the Ukrainians fight and kill the stupid Russian thug invaders. I am proud to stand with Ukraine against the genocidal anti-American KGB Putin regime.


22 posted on 05/04/2014 10:17:13 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Mariner

I served under Reagan, I can’t see his administration being so weak that he couldn’t have found effective ways to exert his power over these events, and I don’t think that he would feel so afraid that he wouldn’t even give any supplies or training, or assistance, or CIA help.

Reagan would not have created a Jimmy Carter/Obama/Rand Paul, libertarian type vacuum, for the world’s bad guys to go on the march in.


23 posted on 05/04/2014 10:20:39 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: Tailgunner Joe; ansel12

Why is a Globalist meatpuppet like Barry Soetoro using the CIA and FBI to secure “freedom, democracy, and prosperity” for the Ukrainian people when he is doing everything he can to destroy freedom, democracy and prosperity for the American people.


24 posted on 05/04/2014 10:43:34 AM PDT by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: Count of Monte Fisto
Many of the pro-Russia, pro-Putin posters here, are spouting the same anti-Americanism

We are spouting anti-Globalism. How you can confuse Globalist meatpuppets that control our foreign policy like Barrack Hussein Obama, Hillary Clinton, John Kerry, Juan McLame, George Soros, etc., etc. for pro-Americans is beyond me.

25 posted on 05/04/2014 10:47:25 AM PDT by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: ansel12
"I can’t see his administration being so weak that he couldn’t have found effective ways to exert his power over these events"

A more like response by Reagan would be to place a dozen squadrons of US Aircraft in Poland and Romania, backed by 4 armored divisions at full readiness.

Hell, that's a fitting response now.

But NOTHING in Ukraine.

26 posted on 05/04/2014 10:50:26 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Count of Monte Fisto
Obama is not the USA. The USA will beat Obama, and then we will beat Putin.
27 posted on 05/04/2014 10:55:39 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Mariner

Reagan would definitely have the CIA active, and he would have started fighting Putin from the first day he took office, and even at this late stage he would be offering effective resistance and making Russia pay a price, regardless of how you want to falsely portray him.

Reagan would be operating, not just making a show.


28 posted on 05/04/2014 10:55:51 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: logi_cal869
Dozens of specialists from the US Central Intelligence Agency and Federal Bureau of Investigation are advising the Ukrainian government,<<

Step 1. Blame it on a video
Step 2. Keep repeating it
Step 3. When it all falls apart....Say “What difference does it make now?”

29 posted on 05/04/2014 11:12:06 AM PDT by M-cubed
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To: logi_cal869
To send in US military force would abrogate everything that Obama has always believed.

He thinks you can always outsmart the enemy (thus, the intel personnel) and force is never necessary.

30 posted on 05/04/2014 12:06:18 PM PDT by what's up (su)
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To: tcrlaf

Not sure if I’m misreading you, but if you’re misreading me (I guess I couldn’t have been more vague than with just sarcasm)...

...my point is that Libya ended up a vacuum. Besides the point that the Puppet ran us out of Libya as fast as Reagan did Lebanon, the vacuum (ironically in both cases) was filled by terrorist organizations.

Russia will not permit an unstable country on its border. Nor would we (that’s amusing if you take Mexico into account...consider that sarcasm with regards to the US).

What if similar conditions presented and Russia dispatched FSB & KGB to Mexico as ‘advisors’?

Running counter to many, I’m of the opinion ‘let the Russians sort it out’. It’s simply not worth the world of hurt coming down the pike due to the reckless foreign policy of the Puppet. Ya know... if recent events are a guideline...


31 posted on 05/04/2014 5:20:28 PM PDT by logi_cal869
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Obama is not the USA. The USA will beat Obama

What does that mean? The USA elected him twice.

And not only that the entire Globalists Establishment including the Democrats, the GOP Leadership, the Chamber of Amnesty, Wall St., the Corporate Media, the District of Criminals bureaucracy, Academia and a whole galaxy of well funded Globalist NGO's are lined up behind him. Or more precisely his is just a figurehead for all of them. All of them have to be defeated too and you won't do that by siding with them against nationalist Russia.

32 posted on 05/05/2014 5:21:58 AM PDT by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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