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33 shot in one month: "I think there's a .gun crime issue"
WOKV 104.5 FM ^ | Wednesday, April 30, 2014 | Stephanie Brown

Posted on 05/04/2014 2:07:04 PM PDT by Q-ManRN

I think there’s a gun crime issue in Jacksonville that we have to get ahead of.”

The clear message from Jacksonville Sheriff’s Office Director Mike Williams today...

While JSO could not definitively say why we’re seeing a spike, they believe there is a common thread of drug activity- from marijuana to cocaine- that leads to gun crime.

“If you’re not buying drugs, selling drugs, or hanging out with somebody that’s doing one of those two things, your chance of being a victim of gun crime in Jacksonville is very low,” says Director Tom Hackney.

He says many of the recent shootings do have a gang element as well.

With this apparent spike and the changes it’s prompting in enforcement, I asked whether you need to be concerned for your safety.

“Every citizen of Jacksonville needs to take their own personal safety in to account in every neighborhood,” Hackney says.

He encourages you to be vigilant, but know that police are working to make your streets safer.

(Excerpt) Read more at wokv.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: banglist; crime; drugs; gun; guncontrol
This article is an excellent example of how gun control rhetoric pervades our news media. The article starts out with a strong statement implying that the recent uptick in violent crime in Jacksonville, FL is caused by guns. This is the statement which most people will remember about this article.

Then, we read further down in the article that the people shooting each other are drug addicts, drug dealers & gang members. Lo and behold! The problem is criminals. Buying and selling illegal drugs is a notoriously violent, dangerous trade. And being in a street gang is could hardly be described as a safe environment that fosters love for your fellow man.

Predictably, people being responsible for their own safety is only mentioned at the end of the article (which many people never get to) after a direct question about personal safety was asked. That statement is naturally followed by a "police are out there protecting you" statement. Only the trained eye would note that the article asks people to call with information after the crime has already been committed; thus, only offering protection after the fact.

1 posted on 05/04/2014 2:07:04 PM PDT by Q-ManRN
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To: gonzo; MinuteGal; M Kehoe; mcmuffin; Matchett-PI; Seeking the truth; JulieRNR21; surfer; ...

Florida ping


2 posted on 05/04/2014 2:09:27 PM PDT by Q-ManRN (Progressivism is regressive!)
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To: Q-ManRN

“If you’re not buying drugs, selling drugs, or hanging out with somebody that’s doing one of those two things, your chance of being a victim of gun crime in Jacksonville is very low,” says Director Tom Hackney.

He says many of the recent shootings do have a gang element as well.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

So all the low-life criminals are shooting one another.

Jacksonville certainly does have a gun problem.

They need more guns.


3 posted on 05/04/2014 2:10:57 PM PDT by Eccl 10:2 (Prov 3:5 --- "Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding")
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To: Q-ManRN

“More Guns;Less Crime”!!ConcealCarry BIG TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


4 posted on 05/04/2014 2:14:11 PM PDT by bandleader
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To: Eccl 10:2

A Michigan state senator representing Detroit is saying that Detroit has a justifiable homicide “problem”. So in other words its not the attacking thugs who are the problem but the would be victims who use deadly force.

He’s also angry that the new police chief is telling people to arm themselves because the police simply can’t get there in time if someone is kicking a door in.


5 posted on 05/04/2014 2:19:08 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: Q-ManRN

Yep, this article could have been written 20 years ago, except the number of shootings would have been higher.


6 posted on 05/04/2014 2:20:11 PM PDT by Monmouth78
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To: Q-ManRN

Was thinking the same thing that you have to read this whole article to understand the situation. Open carry is the only solution - American cities have turned into the Serengeti and people need to act accordingly. Throw out the politicians who stop you from self-protection. Run for office yourself if you have to, but only if you want to win and stop the Lefties from running us all into the ground.


7 posted on 05/04/2014 2:21:03 PM PDT by Sioux-san
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To: cripplecreek

A Michigan state senator representing Detroit is saying that Detroit has a justifiable homicide “problem”.

Perfect example of what happens to people’s brains when they do drugs or huff various chemicals.


8 posted on 05/04/2014 2:21:29 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Surgeon General Warning: Use of Planned Parenthood is hazardous to unborn black fetuses.)
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To: Q-ManRN

Hmmm. Sounds more like an illegal drug problem, or even criminals breaking the law as criminals are want to do problem rather than a “gun” problem to me.

When thousands are slaughtered on the highways, is that a “car” problem or a “driver” problem?


9 posted on 05/04/2014 2:23:15 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Sioux-san
Open carry is the only solution

Yup.
10 posted on 05/04/2014 2:23:20 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: Eccl 10:2

Well put!

Eccl 10:2 wrote:

“So all the low-life criminals are shooting one another.

Jacksonville certainly does have a gun problem.

They need more guns.”


11 posted on 05/04/2014 2:25:12 PM PDT by Q-ManRN (Progressivism is regressive!)
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To: Eccl 10:2

“If you’re not buying drugs, selling drugs, or hanging out with somebody that’s doing one of those two things, your chance of being in Jacksonville is pretty low...


12 posted on 05/04/2014 2:26:31 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: cripplecreek

It is amazing how much the truth hurts some people to the point where they would rather blame the victim.


13 posted on 05/04/2014 2:27:03 PM PDT by Q-ManRN (Progressivism is regressive!)
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To: tet68
“If you’re not buying drugs, selling drugs, or hanging out with somebody that’s doing one of those two things, your chance of being in Jacksonville is pretty low...

LOL!

14 posted on 05/04/2014 2:29:06 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Sioux-san
Open carry is the only solution

Indeed, it's long past time for Floridians to reverse Janet Reno's ban on open carry.

15 posted on 05/04/2014 2:29:53 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: Q-ManRN

Its almost always these urban politicians who feel that way for some reason.


16 posted on 05/04/2014 2:29:59 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: Q-ManRN

A gun crime issue? Yes, there is..NOT ENOUGH GUNS IN THE GOOD GUYS’ HANDS.


17 posted on 05/04/2014 2:32:43 PM PDT by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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To: Q-ManRN
I lived there in the very late 80s through the nineties. When I moved there it was a city of about 500k. Around 1990 we had the thugs throwing junk off interstate overpasses. First inkling things weren't right in Jacksonville.

Then I began to notice gang graffiti in the middle class neighborhoods in the Mandarin and Baymeadows area.

I knew if I stayed there and had a family we would be moving to St. John's county for better schools.

Too bad to hear this about Jacksonville. It is a city with a lot of potential. Access to the beach. Moderate climate for north Florida.

Unfortunately it's on I-95....the drug highway of the east coast.

18 posted on 05/04/2014 2:33:31 PM PDT by ealgeone (obama, borderof)
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To: Q-ManRN
I used to live a half hour outside Jax, at the beach. It was decided that this was too close. I now live an hour and a half outside Jax.

Last summer I read about a riot in Jax Beach. I wondered, was the sun too hot? Was the water too cold? What would cause a riot in a small beach town.

I know that (most of) the people here can guess the answer.

actionnewsjax.com

19 posted on 05/04/2014 2:37:26 PM PDT by Daaave ( "Where it all ends I can't fathom my friends")
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To: Drew68

We have it up here in Michigan, and I see no problem with it at all... except for a few LEO’s who harass citizens for exercising their right to open carry, but no surprise there.


20 posted on 05/04/2014 2:38:08 PM PDT by Sioux-san
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To: ealgeone

Most urban politicians do not live in those urban areas and they do not want to admit that they cannot solve the problems of crime and drugs themselves. Nevertheless, they want to appear that they do have the solution for re-election purposes.


21 posted on 05/04/2014 2:42:38 PM PDT by Q-ManRN (Progressivism is regressive!)
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To: Q-ManRN

Meanwhile, in California: 4 Hurt In Apparent Gang-Related Stabbing In Simi Valley
http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2014/05/04/4-hurt-in-apparent-gang-related-stabbing-in-simi-valley/


22 posted on 05/04/2014 2:58:48 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: ealgeone

Most of Jax is still ok, but the thug element is heavy in the hood and sometimes spills out. Lots of decent folks carry now.


23 posted on 05/04/2014 3:03:57 PM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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24 posted on 05/04/2014 3:25:46 PM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: Q-ManRN

***This article is an excellent example of how gun control rhetoric pervades our news media.***

It has been this way since Nov 22,1963.


25 posted on 05/04/2014 3:29:59 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: Q-ManRN; All; Chigirl 26; flaglady47; mickie; pax_et_bonum
Jacksonville and Chicago should have a contest to see which city ends up with the most shootings (deaths and wounded totals) June 1 to Labor Day.

Things should really heat up when summer is here.

(It's still chilly in the Windy City. Wait till the heat and humidity closes in over and inside the mean streets of the 'hoods).

If Chicago would win the race, Rahm Emmanuel should have a blanket of roses draped over his shoulders because he's such a lousy mayor and a consumate horse's arse besides.

Which city do y'all think would win the race?

Leni

26 posted on 05/04/2014 4:01:15 PM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: Q-ManRN

Most of the thugs are convicted felons and by law should not have a gun. Just more evidence that if “Guns are outlawed,only outlaws will have guns”


27 posted on 05/04/2014 4:40:21 PM PDT by Uncle Lonny
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To: Uncle Lonny

Actually, they should be allowed to have a gun, they just need to be shot.


28 posted on 05/04/2014 4:44:12 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: MinuteGal

Chicago hands down. 33 is a slow month here.


29 posted on 05/04/2014 4:47:06 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Q-ManRN

Black thugs fighting for the drug traffic.


30 posted on 05/04/2014 5:01:51 PM PDT by Finalmente
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To: Q-ManRN

I’m fortunate in having a quite well behaved gun. It has not yet even come close to going on a rage filled crime spree like some less civilized guns do. To date, at least, my gun hasn’t tempted me to take up drugs, much less to suggest I sell them. My gun has steadfastly avoided all gang activity though I know the temptation must have been great. For all this, I’m relieved and thankful. I’ve been so lucky.


31 posted on 05/04/2014 5:08:38 PM PDT by JimSEA
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they believe there is a common thread of drug activity- from marijuana to cocaine- that leads to gun crime.

This will all be ignored when the hand wringing newspaper editorialists start.

It will all be about the senseless killings, the violence and it is all because of easy access to firearms. The bleat will be that more back ground checks, more restrictions and magazine limits are needed. It's a crisis!

Action must be taken immediately to save these poor children.

Makes ya wanna puke.

32 posted on 05/04/2014 6:57:35 PM PDT by metalurgist ( Want your country back? It'll take guns and rope. Marxists won't give up peaceably.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
It has been this way since Nov 22,1963.

Accurate assessment, imo.

5.56mm

33 posted on 05/05/2014 5:30:51 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Q-ManRN

Describes Memphis...and what do the they have in common...DEMORAT controlled cities. We can kill the unborn at will, heaven forbid we put down a rabid prep.

Ashley Nichole (Nikki) Read 8 yrs old. Here is something you can do to help this 8 year old. She has waited 24 yrs for JUSTICE to be carried out. JUST IMAGINE IF SHE WERE YOUR DAUGHTER, GRAND DAUGHTER, SISTER, NIECE.

You do not have to live in TN to call our governor to request justice for Nikki.

TN Gov email is bill.haslam@tn.gov PHONE calls work best 615-741-2001 TN Gov .

David Keen
http://murderpedia.org/male.K/k/keen-david.htm

This CHILD RAPIST/MURDER HAS RUN OUT OF ALL 20 YRS OF APPEALS, 2 JURIES HANDED DOWN THE DEATH PENALTY, TN GOV Halsam still has NOT SET AN EXECUTION DATE OR SIGNED A DEATH WARRANT, tell him to carry out his Constitutional duty!

This is going on 20 years of appeals. DNA & confession proved he did it.

He raped, strangled to death with her OWN SHOE LACES 8 year old Ashley ‘Nikki’ Read and then threw her body in the river. Even helped hunt for what was thought to be a missing child. Justice has been denied, her mom Debbie still grieves as there is no closure allowed by the Injustice system. She ended up having a nervous break down because it has taken so long and still NO JUSTICE for Nikki.

ALL FED AND STATE APPEALS HAVE BEEN RUN OUT! DNA & confession proved he did it.

He raped, strangled to death with her OWN SHOE LACES 8 year old Ashley ‘Nicki’ Read and then threw her body in the river. Even helped hunt for what was thought to be a missing child.


34 posted on 05/05/2014 5:38:22 AM PDT by GailA (IF you fail to keep your promises to the Military, you won't keep them to Citizens!)
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They live in gated upper class communities, and if you are the Mayor you have 5 Armed body guards, 24/7/365.


35 posted on 05/05/2014 5:42:11 AM PDT by GailA (IF you fail to keep your promises to the Military, you won't keep them to Citizens!)
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