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Don't tune out the newest Benghazi developments
Chicago Tribune ^ | 5-4-2014 | John Kass - OP/ED

Posted on 05/04/2014 5:04:27 PM PDT by smoothsailing

Don't tune out the newest Benghazi developments

John Kass

May 4, 2014

Former Deputy CIA Director Mike Morell is sworn recently by the House Select Intelligence Committee. "The analysts said from the get-go that al-Qaida was involved in (the Benghazi) attack," Morell testified.

Why is Benghazi important to Americans?

You'll hear a lot about Benghazi in coming days and you'll hear the familiar screeching of partisan politics, now that House Speaker John Boehner has decided to convene a select committee to investigate the 2012 terrorist attack in that dusty fly-bitten town in Libya.

If the past is any guide, you'll hear Republican righteous vindictiveness and Democratic mockery and defensiveness. There will be so many politicians jabbering into microphones, so many practiced mouths curled into what is supposed to look like spontaneous anger, that you'll see right through much of it.

And then many of you will be tempted to turn away and tune out. That's to be expected. Some of the politicos are counting on just that. They're betting on it, and you should probably figure that some of the screaming isn't designed to inform but to turn you off to the whole thing.

One of the problems is that many Republicans have used Benghazi as a club. And many Democrats have shrieked that it was all about nothing. So much noise.

So little light, until very recently, when a few previously hidden White House emails were made public and things changed.

But first, remember that four Americans died there in Benghazi: Ambassador Christopher Stevens, U.S. State Department computer specialist Sean Smith and former Navy SEALs Glen Doherty and Tyrone Woods.

They weren't murdered because they were Democrats or Republicans. They were murdered because they were Americans...

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections; US: Ohio; War on Terror
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They didn't die for politics.

1 posted on 05/04/2014 5:04:27 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

They died in an operation where the CIA was sending Ghaddafi’s weapons to Al Qaeda in Syria.

We were arming the exact same guys who were shooting at us in Iraq.

That’s the scandal.

Anyone gonna touch it?


2 posted on 05/04/2014 5:13:16 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Mohammed was a Child Rapist and Islam is a Totalitarian Death Cult.)
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To: smoothsailing

I couldn’t read the rest. What does it go on to say?


3 posted on 05/04/2014 5:14:08 PM PDT by dforest
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To: Uncle Miltie

I said as we were rushing into Libya that it was just going to turn into Fast and Furious North Africa division.

Seems that the first story about American weapons turning up in Gaza was less than 3 weeks later.


4 posted on 05/04/2014 5:16:07 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: cripplecreek

Bttt


5 posted on 05/04/2014 5:17:31 PM PDT by Guenevere
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To: smoothsailing

BTTT


6 posted on 05/04/2014 5:21:56 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: Uncle Miltie

Will there be an honest discussion of the Benghazi Atrocity?
and the planned disinformational coverup?

Will William Robert “Tosh” Plumlee's questions be answered?
Will there be discussion about why the DO"J" has attempted to stop his 11 questions?
They are, for the record:

" 1. Is the United States secretly arming and supporting various factions of the Syrian Rebels
with high caliber impact weapons from The United States arsenals?

"2. Is the United States little known Direct Commercial Sales Program, also known as ʻ‘The Blue Lantern Report”,
being used as a ʻ‘cutoutʼ’ to secretly aid both sides of a Middle Eastern civil war?

"3. Is America again playing both sides against the middle for corporate gain as previously
demonstrated by the Cuban Project of the fifties and sixties, as well as the Iran Contra fiasco of the eighties
and the South American—Mexican Drug Wars of the nineties?
"It has been established via some field reports from the Middle East and some isolated media reports
that the Direct Commercial Sales Program (DCSP) an American international program,
which legally allows the United States to sell weapons to a host of foreign countries without monitoring those weapons after leaving our arsenals, stockpiles,
and jurisdiction, has shipped High Impact weapons to Syrian Rebels during the last two years.

"4. What happens to those weapons after legally being sold via this program and they leave our control?
"Are they being monitored, traced, certified, and inventoried after arriving in other countries?

"5.Will our troops one day again face these American made weapons on some foreign battlefield?

"6. Is this Direct Commercial Sales program a secret cash cow for many US Corporations,
International arms merchants, its insiders, or affiliates?

"7. Is it possible this could be another ‘off-‐ the-‐ booksʼ’ secret covert operation ran
by the CIAʼ’s Special Tactical Unit, similar to the Iran-‐ Contra operations of the eighties and the old Cuban projects of the fifties and sixties,
where we supplied both sides weapons and escalated the conflict for personal and corporate gain?

"8. Could we be selling and supplying dangerous high impact weapons,
while aiding and financing both sides of a Civil War in Syria?

"9. Could we be escalating the Middle East conflict either knowingly or unintentionally providing weapons
to both sides of the Syrian conflict?

"10. Did our Ambassador and others, weeks before they were murdered, notify our State Department
and CIA that Syrian Rebels had obtained US Weapons, including “Stinger missiles’ from Jordan, Turkey, Pakistan,
shipped from CIA safe houses?

"11. Were they told to “Stand Down?"

Will the MSM remain complicit in the 2008 through 2014 coup d'etat
against the USA, its Constitution and People
by the Moslem Brotherhood and al Qaeda?

Is the sky blue? Is water wet?

7 posted on 05/04/2014 5:22:11 PM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: Guenevere
Missing Libya Missiles Find Their Way to Gaza Border (Oct. 13, 2011)

We better grab these stories while they still exist.
8 posted on 05/04/2014 5:28:15 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: Uncle Miltie

Trey Gowdy is probably the most likely.


9 posted on 05/04/2014 5:30:39 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

This was in the Chicago Tribune?


10 posted on 05/04/2014 5:32:29 PM PDT by Veggie Todd (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. TJ)
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To: Veggie Todd

Yep. This writer, John Kass, doesn’t seem to play favorites. He’s been a Tribune writer since 1983.


11 posted on 05/04/2014 5:41:16 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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12 posted on 05/04/2014 5:43:47 PM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: cripplecreek

Absolutely!


13 posted on 05/04/2014 5:45:25 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: RedMDer

14 posted on 05/04/2014 5:47:55 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: cripplecreek

Nice one!!


15 posted on 05/04/2014 5:48:50 PM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Almost a year before the Benghazi consulate attack and the weapons were already on the move.


16 posted on 05/04/2014 5:49:18 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: smoothsailing
What if:
Amb. Stevens was set up to be kidnapped? The election was coming and this administration was viewed as weak on foreign policy. Send Stephens to a little town, with no protection. Tell the bad guys, that you are dealing with, where he is. They rough up Stephens a bit, he is gay, after all. Bam barks a bit, ‘You let him go or I will find you!’ He is released, as agreed. Bad guys get their arms shipment. Prez looks tough. Hillary looks good. Piece of cake.
Except... Two ex-seals answered the call of duty and screwed EVERYTHING up. Rescue attempts were not permitted for 7 hours and the bad guys couldn't get past two seals. Finally, they got in but in anger, killed everyone.
Then the damage control wizards came up with the video crap.
What if.....
17 posted on 05/04/2014 5:50:41 PM PDT by ArtDodger
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To: ArtDodger

If that could be proven it would be a criminal conspiracy from start to finish. Anyone involved would be an accomplice to some degree.


18 posted on 05/04/2014 6:03:05 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: Uncle Miltie

They died in an operation where the CIA was sending Ghaddafi’s weapons to Al Qaeda in Syria.

We were arming the exact same guys who were shooting at us in Iraq.

That’s the scandal.

Anyone gonna touch it?


Not if rinos were in on it.


19 posted on 05/04/2014 6:04:50 PM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness.)
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To: smoothsailing

Looks like the weapons were still moving even as the testimony went on in DC. The most recent stories I’ve found were from summer of last year.


20 posted on 05/04/2014 6:07:44 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: smoothsailing

It would certainly explain a lot of things. Why the request for more security was ignored. Why those wanting to extract him were told to stand down. These traitors have blood on their hands..


21 posted on 05/04/2014 6:09:55 PM PDT by ArtDodger
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To: ArtDodger

Very interesting


22 posted on 05/04/2014 6:12:05 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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To: smoothsailing
They were murdered because they were Americans

They were murdered because they served under the least qualified President in history, elected because of his image and not his accomplishments.

23 posted on 05/04/2014 6:13:49 PM PDT by Hardastarboard (Please excuse the potholes in this tagline. Social programs have to take priority in our funding.)
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To: ArtDodger

From the outset I was convinced the CIA was running a weapons deal with al Qaeda or the moose slime brotherhood and the moose slime brotherhood or al qaeda got wind of helping the others and put a stop to it and took the weapons. I do not doubt that hatellary clintoon knew what was going down but did not expect a second terrorist group to step in. The lie about the video was to stop anyone from looking into who actually took what was intended for a different terrorist group.


24 posted on 05/04/2014 6:20:37 PM PDT by MHGinTN
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To: smoothsailing

I think it was a conspiracy to let soldiers die and Stephens was expendable, when things went wrong. There was gun running, missiles stolen, and the Muslim Brotherhood, an arm of Al Queda, were getting weapons from this group of traitors. Fast and Furious... Middle Eastern style.

The problem is that until there are some Senators/Reps with ba&%s, at least enough votes, all the evidence in the world will not get them arrested or convicted. There are so many skeletons in the closets of those who have the authority, that the blackmail from the info at the NSA will keep a lot of mouths shut out of fear. Integrity/honesty/courage have been lost.

FYI..I enjoyed the Whiskey Rebellion History you presented.


25 posted on 05/04/2014 6:20:40 PM PDT by Kackikat
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To: MHGinTN

I think the kidnapping idea explains a lot. How they knew where Stephens was, why he was sent there basically alone, why no help was sent.. He was a patsy, and Hillary and Bam knew. This was directed from the State Department with an assist from the White House.


26 posted on 05/04/2014 6:24:58 PM PDT by ArtDodger
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To: Uncle Miltie

>We were arming the exact same guys who were shooting at us in Iraq.<

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It appears more like an act of treason than just a mere scandal.


27 posted on 05/04/2014 6:26:38 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: Uncle Miltie

Nope. Folks are getting all worked over the video. It’s a nice job of deflection and all of the republicans are getting in lockstep.

The issue is WHY WERE THEY THERE?

This will drag out until it doesn’t matter.


28 posted on 05/04/2014 6:28:24 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
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To: ArtDodger

Or the other way around on that last sentence???


29 posted on 05/04/2014 6:29:23 PM PDT by Kackikat
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To: dforest
I got into this one here:

the article
30 posted on 05/04/2014 6:29:26 PM PDT by hemogoblin
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To: hemogoblin

actually, I guess trying twice got me in!


31 posted on 05/04/2014 6:30:18 PM PDT by hemogoblin
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To: Kackikat

Or the other way around on that last sentence???

Absolutely... When so many are in bed together, who cares who goes first...


32 posted on 05/04/2014 6:31:05 PM PDT by ArtDodger
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To: Kackikat
FYI..I enjoyed the Whiskey Rebellion History you presented.

Thank you. :)

33 posted on 05/04/2014 6:36:53 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: Uncle Miltie

A lot of us have “known” or suspected our government was
sending Lybian arms to Al Quaeda. I’m wondering how much
of the money from the sales go to the man in the whitehouse.
That’s a lot of armament and a lot of money. Still some
of the ground to air is not accounted for.


34 posted on 05/04/2014 6:41:26 PM PDT by tillacum
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To: ArtDodger
I'd like to see someone of Andrew C. McCarthy's stature as the counsel for Boehner's special committee. Someone like that could get to the bottom of all this.
35 posted on 05/04/2014 6:43:12 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: hemogoblin

Cannot read the column without signing up. NEVER


36 posted on 05/04/2014 6:50:13 PM PDT by MHGinTN
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To: Uncle Miltie

There is more to it than that. A retired 4 star admiral is saying that this was a joint operation by the Muslim Brotherhood and the Obama administration to get him elected by a creating a crisis. Than Obama would use force to get the prisoners taken by the terrorists and be a hero right before the election. Our people there foiled the whole thing by defending themselves and the attackers who thought they were going to just walk in and take our guys hostages would not defend themselves so as a result people died just to get Obama reelected. This is something that could blow Obama out of the white house before his term ends and put Hillary in jail. The Ulsterman report also stated that there would be a false flag incident right before the election.

If this were simply a mistake they would cooperate and get it behind them and out in the open. But, they don’t because it is far bigger than what it appears.


37 posted on 05/04/2014 7:07:06 PM PDT by amnestynone (Lindsey Graham is a feckless, duplicitous, treacherous, double dealing backstabbing corksucker.)
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To: Uncle Miltie

WHERE was our Dictator during the the attack on our Consulate in Benghazi?

WHY did he choose to do nothing and let our people be slaughtered?

WHO is involved in the ongoing conspiracy to silence and intimidate the survivors?

WHAT kind of illegal arms trafficking they were involved in that provoked the attack in the first place?


38 posted on 05/04/2014 7:29:18 PM PDT by Rome2000
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To: ArtDodger

Or, what if he was set up to be kidnapped so he could be exchanged for the blind sheik.


39 posted on 05/04/2014 7:30:53 PM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: amnestynone

Stephens never knew that he was an October Suprise!


40 posted on 05/04/2014 7:33:07 PM PDT by ArtDodger
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To: Cowgirl of Justice

The US has a policy of not heeding demands of kidnappers and to change that just before an election would have weakened everyone’s perception of this bunch of bozos even more. Then there would have been questions about the lack of security. I think it was just to get the ambassador released so Bam and Hill could look good on foreign policy at election time.


41 posted on 05/04/2014 7:39:44 PM PDT by ArtDodger
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To: smoothsailing

Nixon lied, and covered up about a burglary he ordered to an office staffed by Democrats: Nixon resigned, rather that choosing to submit to an Impeachment Trial. Nobody died.

Bill Clinton lied and was Impeached. Vince Foster and Ron Armstrong died.

B. Hussein lied, was AWOL, covered up and is proud of it. Four of his employees were brutally murdered, while Obama slept like a baby.


42 posted on 05/04/2014 7:59:41 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: ArtDodger

Remember how Hillary constantly referred to “Chris” in her acting debut?


43 posted on 05/04/2014 9:01:12 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: MHGinTN
This isn't Hillary's first foreign deal, Operation Castaway involved running guns through the State Department to Zelaya supporters , even though Zelaya had served the maximum time as President under the Honduran Constitution and been ousted by the Honduran Military in 2009 during a Constitutional crisis.
44 posted on 05/05/2014 5:32:14 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: tillacum

IIRC, the administration bought a crapload of 7.62X39 ammo, too. That’s AK fodder, not AR feed. I wonder how much of it ended up over there?


45 posted on 05/05/2014 5:39:50 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: smoothsailing

Why not? Other than a little noise, nothing will happen. Hillary is going to continue to lie. Obama will continue to lie. The media will continue to lie and cover for Obama and Hillary. The Republican Party will continue to be spineless, though I am leaning toward that they are more co conspirators than cowards. They can fool their sheep better if the concept is that they are cowards rather than co-conspirators is floated.


46 posted on 05/05/2014 5:49:06 AM PDT by sport
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To: Vermont Lt
This will drag out until it doesn’t matter.

In your opinion, when will four dead Americans, including the Ambassador, "not matter"?

See this.

47 posted on 05/05/2014 5:53:38 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: Uncle Miltie
I'd be surprised if they were Ghaddafi's weapons. They were weapons that the CIA had before that provided for the fake protesters in Libya. Local terrorists want to keep their guns for themselves, since they did the fighting. The west wants that Benghazi port and western Egypt oil for western global interests. Doesn't seem to be happening.

These are opinions, not facts....but it seems to tie together.

48 posted on 05/05/2014 5:54:26 AM PDT by grania
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To: sport
Lacking clairvoyance, I'll follow events as they unfold. If Trey Gowdy lives up to his billing as a fierce and successful prosecuter, we may yet see some justice.
49 posted on 05/05/2014 6:27:46 AM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

I could be wrong, but I believe that Trey Gowdy is only a Representative from South Carolina, not a prosecutor.


50 posted on 05/05/2014 6:33:34 AM PDT by sport
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