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What would America fight for? Allies increasingly doubt America's will to help defend them
The Economist ^ | 05/04/2014

Posted on 05/04/2014 5:22:53 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

“WHY is it that everybody is so eager to use military force?” America’s cerebral president betrayed a rare flash of frustration on April 28th when dealing with a question in Asia about his country’s “weakness”. Barack Obama said his administration was making steady, if unspectacular, progress. By blundering into wars, his critics would only harm America.

Mr Obama was channelling the mood of his people, worn out by the blood and treasure squandered in Iraq and Afghanistan. A survey last autumn by the Pew Research Centre suggests that 52% want the United States to “mind its own business internationally”, the highest figure in five decades of polling. But when America’s president speaks of due caution, the world hears reluctance—especially when it comes to the most basic issue for any superpower, its willingness to fight.

For America’s most exposed allies that is now in doubt. For decades, America’s security guarantee used to underpin Japan’s foreign policy; now, on his Asian tour, Mr Obama has had to reassure Japan that it can count on America if China seizes the disputed Senkaku islands (which China calls the Diaoyus). After his tepid backing for intervention in Libya and Mali and his Syrian climbdown, Israel, Saudi Arabia and a string of Gulf emirates wonder whether America will police the Middle East. As Vladimir Putin, Russia’s president, disrupts Ukraine, eastern Europeans fret that they are next.

(Excerpt) Read more at economist.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: enemies; iran; iraq; military; obama; putin; putinsbuttboys; rop; superpower; waronterror; weakness; weakpresident

1 posted on 05/04/2014 5:22:53 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

The ONLY people bam bam is willing to use force against is his political opposition in the US.

He speaks of Al Queada and the Taliban with more respect than American conservatives.


2 posted on 05/04/2014 5:25:19 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: SeekAndFind
“WHY is it that everybody is so eager to use military force?” America’s cerebral president betrayed a rare flash of frustration on April 28th when dealing with a question in Asia about his country’s “weakness” …
This behavior out of Obama is anything but rare. The man is emotional, not cerebral; always has been.
3 posted on 05/04/2014 5:27:04 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: SeekAndFind

They can defend their own selves. They have spent all their money on socialism and spent nothing on their defense.

They are SOOL now, because we have also done the same since Ogoofball.


4 posted on 05/04/2014 5:27:11 PM PDT by dforest
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To: SeekAndFind

5 posted on 05/04/2014 5:27:13 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: SeekAndFind

With some exception countries get the governments they deserve...

There’s not one Muslim country worth defending... same goes for countries with high corruption. They’re begging to be taken over... which is just fine with me. Ukraine elects a nut who lives high off the hog and has a private zoo? That’s not ever going to end well - and it’s not worth a drop of American blood.

Yes, we should defend Canada and Israel and other rule of law democracies. As far as Mexico goes? With them dumping their excess citizens on us? Don’t care. Not one bit. Whoever wants them can have them.


6 posted on 05/04/2014 5:28:59 PM PDT by GOPJ ( Are we finally going to get a smidgen of truth? - - Freeper Veto!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Barack O'Bozo is so smart he can't even remember where his college transcripts are hidden.


7 posted on 05/04/2014 5:29:01 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Malaysia Flight MH370 Black Box signals reported in Bermuda Triangle)
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To: SeekAndFind

We may well find out what Americans are willing
to fight for in the next two or three years.


8 posted on 05/04/2014 5:29:29 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: SeekAndFind

9 posted on 05/04/2014 5:30:41 PM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: SeekAndFind

There is nothing “cerebral” about Barack Obama. That’s just his white boys in the state controlled “media” sucking up to him again.


10 posted on 05/04/2014 5:31:58 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Obama's smidgens are coming home to roost.)
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To: Iron Munro

America’s cerebral president

HA HA


11 posted on 05/04/2014 5:33:45 PM PDT by sasquatch
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To: sasquatch
HA HA

He really is a goofy bas**ard, isn't he?


12 posted on 05/04/2014 5:36:56 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Malaysia Flight MH370 Black Box signals reported in Bermuda Triangle)
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To: SeekAndFind

America under Obama doesn’t stand for anything beyond a short-term domestic political agenda. That is, if you don’t count transgendered rights, gay marriage and promotion of Muslim minorities.

If its about rule of law, protection of property rights, freedom of the seas and commerce, human liberty and rights - forget about it. We’re not interested.


13 posted on 05/04/2014 5:38:39 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: PGR88

If you are a country of gay Muzzie trannies, Obama will pull out all the stops for you. Otherwise you’re outta luck.


14 posted on 05/04/2014 5:40:48 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: dforest

“They can defend their own selves. They have spent all their money on socialism and spent nothing on their defense.”

In total agreement here; Ironically, exposing them for their own weakness may be a positive thing in Bam’s “legacy”.


15 posted on 05/04/2014 5:42:59 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: SeekAndFind

Good question. Policeman of the world for a bunch of Oligarchs? On who`s dime and with who`s blood? Their`s or ours?


16 posted on 05/04/2014 5:45:04 PM PDT by nomad
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To: Iron Munro
"cerebral Obama" Brainiac photo: Brainiac brainiac.jpg Obrainiac with his pet meenkey Mini-me, holding Joe Biden's brain, all three spilin' fer a fight/
17 posted on 05/04/2014 5:46:51 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: SeekAndFind

we’ve got a stoned out homo running the show.

plan accordingly


18 posted on 05/04/2014 5:47:35 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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Hear ye, Hear ye!

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19 posted on 05/04/2014 5:48:13 PM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: SeekAndFind

With America itself embracing such sheer degeneracy as fag-marriage and dope, and its government devolving into a sort of corrupt one-party banana republic, I’m getting to the point where I even find myself pondering to what extent America itself is worth defending... much less defending some outside country.


20 posted on 05/04/2014 5:48:58 PM PDT by greene66
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To: SeekAndFind
“WHY is it that everybody is so eager to use military force?”

Who is this "everybody" that this moron speaks of? No one in their right mind wants to go to war. NO ONE.

Our Founding Fathers explicitly wrote that statement right into the Declaration of Independence. Four years of war nearly killed Lincoln, let alone an assassin's bullet.

Of all of our Presidents, the ones most willing to go to war have been Democrats (Wilson, Roosevelt, Johnson - remember Bob Dole's "Democrat wars" comment? He was right).

0bama is a disaster of a President, and nearly invisible in terms of intellectual ability.

21 posted on 05/04/2014 6:25:25 PM PDT by Hardastarboard (Please excuse the potholes in this tagline. Social programs have to take priority in our funding.)
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To: Olog-hai

The guy is a drama queen.


22 posted on 05/04/2014 6:45:36 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: SeekAndFind
"cerebral president"

23 posted on 05/04/2014 6:50:02 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Obama will use our military to put the Muslim Brotherhood in power in Egypt, to put Al Qaeda in power in Libya, and to put anti-American terrorists in power in Syria. He won’t use force to protect America’s interests, and certainly not for American lives not even the lives of ambassadors.


24 posted on 05/04/2014 7:01:09 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: SeekAndFind

0bama wants to use force against his domestic enemies. The problem with 0bama intervening anywhere in the world with military force is that it would give him the necessary pretext to impose something resembling martial law.
The problem for 0bama is that his base is against military intervention abroad, and most conservatives fear an empowered 0bama at home.
As long as 0bama is president, conservatives, as a matter of self-preservation, must oppose military intervention.


25 posted on 05/04/2014 7:22:54 PM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est. New US economy: Fascism on top, Socialism on the bottom.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks SeekAndFind.


26 posted on 05/04/2014 7:33:30 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SeekAndFind
"“WHY is it that everybody is so eager to use military force?” "

Because all real power comes through the barrel of a gun.

27 posted on 05/04/2014 8:42:08 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: SeekAndFind

After Extortion 17 and then Benghazi no one can actually trust this administration. At least our troops have each other.


28 posted on 05/04/2014 8:46:54 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: huldah1776

You nailed that!

Our troops have been serially betrayed since 1945. Such horrific loss, for no outcome other than “truces” withdrawals and defeat, sickens anyone and everyone who has served.

But, even if their political masters and their senior leadership don’t give a good D-damn, you are right, they have each other. Always will too.


29 posted on 05/05/2014 5:52:08 AM PDT by the anti-mahdi
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To: the anti-mahdi

Our younger troops need somewhere to meet on a regular basis.


30 posted on 05/05/2014 9:11:20 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s not WHAT we won’t fight for. It’s WHO.


31 posted on 05/09/2014 3:18:27 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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