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Half Of Illinois Wants To Live Elsewhere (But Nevadans Are The Most Anxious To Leave)
Zero Hedge ^ | 05/04/2014 | Tyler Durden

Posted on 05/04/2014 5:36:43 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

While every state has at least some residents who are looking for greener pastures; as Gallup reports, nowhere is the desire to move more prevalent than in Illinois and Connecticut. In both of these states, about half of residents say that if given the chance to move to a different state, they would like to do so (against an average 33% of all Americans who would prefer to live in another state than their own). The 'greenest pasture' or least disliked, according to Gallup, is Hawaii and Montana (where only 23% would prefer to leave). The biggest factor driving the desire to leave the current state - unsurprisingly - jobs (or business opportunities)... and Nevada residents (thank you Harry Reid) the most anxious to leave in the next 12 months.

Via Gallup,

These findings are from a 50-state Gallup poll, conducted June-December 2013, which includes at least 600 representative interviews with residents aged 18 and older in each state. Gallup measured residents' interest in moving out of state by asking, "Regardless of whether you will move, if you had the opportunity, would you like to move to another state, or would you rather remain in your current state?"

Thirty-three percent of residents want to move to another state, according to the average of the 50 state responses. Seventeen states come close to that 50-state average. Another 16 are above the average range, including three showing an especially high desire to move. In fact, in these three -- Illinois, Connecticut, and Maryland -- roughly as many residents want to leave as want to stay.

At the other end of the spectrum, 17 states are home to a below-average percentage of residents wanting to leave. This includes the previously mentioned six states -- Montana, Hawaii, Maine, Oregon, New Hampshire, and Texas -- where fewer than one in four want to move, the lowest level recorded.

In the same poll, Gallup asked state residents how likely it is they will move in the next 12 months. On average across all 50 states, 6% of state residents say it is extremely or very likely they will move in the next year, 8% say it is somewhat likely, 14% not too likely, and 73% not likely at all.

The combined percentages reporting they are extremely, very, or somewhat likely to move out of state ranges from 8% in Maine, Iowa, and Vermont to 20% in Nevada.

With the biggest motivating factor to leave being work/jobs...

As Gallup concludes,

State leaders have important reasons for wanting to see their state populations grow rather than shrink. A growing population usually means more commerce, more economic vitality, and a bigger tax base to pay for state services. A shrinking population not only hurts government coffers, but can weaken a state politically by virtue of the potential loss of U.S. House members through redistricting every 10 years.

 

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Nevada, Illinois, Maryland, Louisiana, Mississippi, New York, and Connecticut all appear particularly vulnerable to losing population in the coming few years: high percentages of their residents say they would leave if they could, and larger-than-average percentages say they are at least somewhat likely to do so in the coming year. At the other end of the spectrum, Texas, Minnesota, and Maine have little to fear. Residents of these states are among the least likely to want to leave and few are planning to leave in the next 12 months.

 

If these states sound familiar to readers of Gallup's previous 50-state poll articles, it's because several of them also appear at the top or bottom of the states for resident satisfaction with state taxes, state government, and overall perceptions of how their state compares to others as a place to live.



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: exodus; living
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1 posted on 05/04/2014 5:36:43 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

The little frogies have noticed the water is getting hot and think another part of the pot is safer!


2 posted on 05/04/2014 5:44:42 PM PDT by null and void ( They don't think think they are above the law. They think they are the law.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Stay put. Y’all made your bed.


3 posted on 05/04/2014 5:44:46 PM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Re: South Carolina. Those who plan/hope to leave, we hope it’s the yankees who came here seeking warmer weather but hoping to change things to “the way we did it up north.” Nobody wants to leave the south to go live up north. There’s a reason for that. Assimilate or leave, and quit talking through your nose.


4 posted on 05/04/2014 5:49:18 PM PDT by PistolPaknMama
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To: SeekAndFind

Stay and fight!


5 posted on 05/04/2014 5:49:45 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's agenda¬óDivide and conquer seems to be working.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m real sorry but a poll of 600 spread over 50 states is right about meaningless. I may have the spelling wrong.


6 posted on 05/04/2014 5:51:36 PM PDT by sasquatch
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To: SeekAndFind

Surprising to me is Idaho. Reasons for leaving: bad weather and bad schools.


7 posted on 05/04/2014 5:55:41 PM PDT by cicero2k
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To: SeekAndFind

Not buying this poll about Nevada, The only ones that cant wait to leave are the Californians who moved to Las Vegas during the housing boom, and now cant stand Nevada. Too much freedom I guess lol Those of us that live out of the Vegas area love it here.


8 posted on 05/04/2014 6:01:27 PM PDT by eXe (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: SeekAndFind

Viewing from 160 miles away, I could never understand Chicago.
High prices, lousy weather, and high taxes.
The trifecta of despair.

10 million people in the msa....


9 posted on 05/04/2014 6:04:32 PM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: PistolPaknMama

I live in SC and love it.


10 posted on 05/04/2014 6:06:38 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: SeekAndFind

is there a short explanation for why Nevadans want to leave? we;ve been considering moving there

thanks!~


11 posted on 05/04/2014 6:10:29 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ((Brilliant, Profound Tag Line Goes Here, just as soon as I can think of one..))
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To: PistolPaknMama

They are quickly ruining Virginia, as you probably know. We now have Rat senators, governor, lieutenant governor, and attorney general. With the continuing inflow of Yankees into northern Virginia to feast off the largess of the Federal Government, there is no hope for this state.


12 posted on 05/04/2014 6:13:33 PM PDT by OldPossum ("It's" is the contraction of "it" and "is"; think about ITS implications.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I really love Texas and am glad I brought my Conservative sensibilities with me from now dying California.

But I do remember reading about people who let SoCal who moved back from homesickness.

I sort of understand it. I was born and raised in SoCal and now I miss so much. The beach was 30 minutes (off rush hour). I had Disneyland, Universal Studios, Knotts, the Hollywood Hills, Yamashiro’s, and so much more at my fingertips.

And the weather was a narcotic.

I do get homesick. The first time I did the “Soarin’” ride at Universal FLA I literally cried (especially when we flow over Malibu and I saw my prior home of Point Dume).

Wistfulness be damned, though, in Texas it is about the people. So much more friendly and helpful than the self-centered Los Angelenos. And their stubbornness is a great thing — Texans bow to NO ONE and will tie your ass to a trailer hitch in the noon sun if you try to make them.

On balance, I made a great choice and I would never take it back. I am an honorary Texan now and in a few years I hope to develop the piss and vinegar to make it all the way.


13 posted on 05/04/2014 6:15:36 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Fight Tapinophobia in all its forms! Do not submit to arduus privilege.)
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To: sasquatch

“600 representative interviews with residents aged 18 and older in each state.”

Article says AT LEAST 600 FROM EACH STATE.


14 posted on 05/04/2014 6:15:38 PM PDT by staytrue
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To: freedomfiter2

Well, we have to sleep in it regardless.

I came to Illinois for a good job with a Fortune 50 company and it’s a nice place to live. (Yes, I know there is snow. I like snow). Republican Governors served from 1977 through 1999 and the statehouse was in relatively good shape. George Ryan, also a Republican, served until 2003 and then went to jail. Blago took over in 2003 and served til 2009, then went to jail.

Out of the 26 years I’ve lived in IL, Republicans ran things for 16 and Democrats 10.

And I made this bed, how?

The problem in Illinois is, over the past 10 years it’s come under one party rule. (I needn’t point out which party) A supermajority in the Legislature, the Governorship, and gerrymandered districts to keep it that way.

Democrats control the


15 posted on 05/04/2014 6:16:36 PM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: ilovesarah2012

I am considering moving to a suburb (Simpsonville or Mauldron) in the Greenville, SC area. I heard nice things about SC. It’ll be hard to leave WI though but the winters are taking its toll and I’m stuck in a stagnant job.


16 posted on 05/04/2014 6:17:38 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (100% pure organic, free-range conservative)
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To: freedumb2003

” The beach was 30 minutes (off rush hour). I had Disneyland, Universal Studios, Knotts, the Hollywood Hills, Yamashiro’s, and so much more at my fingertips.”

Gee, you just described my daily itinerary LOL. Compared to the cold and depressing ex-home Vancouver BC, this is heaven..weather-wise. The people, culture and liberal crap ruins it for me.


17 posted on 05/04/2014 6:22:52 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: faithhopecharity

RE: is there a short explanation for why Nevadans want to leave?

Here’s a question in reverse, other than the cheap housing, no state taxes, what’s there in Nevada for you?

Jobs? Nope.

Less government? 84% of the land is owned by the Federal government.

Culture? How many illegals are there?

Then of course, there’s the people you continually vote in Harry Reid...

Overall, I only see minuses.


18 posted on 05/04/2014 6:24:31 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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To: OldPossum
From time to time the Democrats push the idea that DC should be a state. Just the 63 square miles of the district would be ridiculous--of course it is all about adding some guaranteed Democrat seats in the Senate and House. But maybe if they added the suburban areas in Virginia and Maryland it might make it possible to salvage the rest of Virginia.

Maryland is beyond hope.

The influx of Yankees into Virginia in 1861, 1862, 1863, 1864, and 1865 may have been less harmful than the current invasion.

19 posted on 05/04/2014 6:27:37 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I live in Greer (Greenville area) and it is really nice. Nice people, nice homes that don’t cost a fortune (yet), and we are getting a Bass Pro Shop!


20 posted on 05/04/2014 6:38:01 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012
I live in SC and love it.

I was born here, raised here on land my family farmed since the 1800s, raised my children here, who are raising their children here. We have nowhere else to go, unlike the yankee hoarders. It's disgusting to stroll through the market in downtown Charleston. A bunch of yankees and foreigners selling "local" stuff to people who have no clue. It's really very sad.

21 posted on 05/04/2014 6:42:08 PM PDT by PistolPaknMama
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To: SeekAndFind; faithhopecharity

SeekAndFind, you make the common mistake of thinking Nevada is Las Vegas. Here in northern rural Nevada, we have good people, a nicely-paced lifestyle, and solid economies loaded with jobs and buoyed by the largest gold mines in the world. It’s a whole ‘nother world than down south.


22 posted on 05/04/2014 6:47:50 PM PDT by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: JennysCool

So, why do a lot of Nevadans want to leave the state?

If the answer is — these are only Las Vegans who plan on leaving, the next question would be, why then do they not move to the rural Nevada climes you mentioned?

Why bother even considering LEAVING NEVADA?

I think the best response would be for you to show me that this Gallup survey is BUNK.


23 posted on 05/04/2014 6:51:21 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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To: JennysCool

yes, we were thinking of northern NV.

as for jobs, they don’t matter...nobody’s hiring anyway in most places...we had to retire early and while I’d like to work again..since there’s nothing available... we may as well just decide to really retire....
so if NV has jobs, fine...and if not, fine with us.

was thinking about weather and affordability of housing and taxes and all that sort of thing


24 posted on 05/04/2014 6:53:31 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ((Brilliant, Profound Tag Line Goes Here, just as soon as I can think of one..))
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To: SeekAndFind

Many MA residents didn’t know they could go beyond 128 until just a few decades ago.


25 posted on 05/04/2014 6:57:34 PM PDT by posterchild
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To: PistolPaknMama

I love Charleston. Only been there three times but had the very best meal at the Charleston Crab House. Best she-crab soup ever.


26 posted on 05/04/2014 6:58:00 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: SeekAndFind

People want to leave Nevada because slimy corrupt crook reid is stealing all their money to line his droopy pants pockets


27 posted on 05/04/2014 7:00:56 PM PDT by chiefqc
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To: SeekAndFind

“If the answer is — these are only Las Vegans who plan on leaving, the next question would be, why then do they not move to the rural Nevada climes you mentioned?”

A large percentage of LIEberals don’t want to live in a more rural area.

They think those areas are “quaint” but no intelligent, modern, person could ever deal with such a backward lifestyle

They are also literally afraid of people who live in rural areas and think they are all gun-toting rednecks though I don’t see how that isn’t better than gun-firing thugs in the cities.


28 posted on 05/04/2014 7:02:43 PM PDT by Fai Mao (Genius at Large)
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To: nascarnation

Of the 10 million, how many are actually paying the taxes. That is the question. I am finding more and more people on disability that are functioning quite well under the radar. What a scam! Those people are draining the resources for the people that really need quality care.


29 posted on 05/04/2014 7:04:18 PM PDT by Maudeen ("I'm just a sinner . . . saved by Grace.")
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To: faithhopecharity

Weather, four seasons; housing is a bit high because this is a successful area; no state income tax in Nevada.


30 posted on 05/04/2014 7:12:12 PM PDT by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: JennysCool

roads passable in winter? can we avoid most of the snow?
the people seemed friendly that’s what impressed us on our last visit there


31 posted on 05/04/2014 7:15:44 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ((Brilliant, Profound Tag Line Goes Here, just as soon as I can think of one..))
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To: PistolPaknMama

Assimilate or leave, and quit talking through your nose.
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I agree! I usually watch FoxNews because they ARE more ‘fair and balanced’ than any of the other outlets. It drives me nuts that so many of the regulars there (especially the women) have never used a voice coach.

It’s obvious that many of them are from the North/Northeast and have that extremely irritating nasal accent that makes it sound like they have clothes pins on their noses. It’s even worse when they start talking fast and raising their voices, because the sound is unbearable and I can’t understand more than about every third word they say.

Greta is really bad when she starts talking fast, as are Kimberly G., Elizabeth H. (really nasal) and M. Kelly. Harrison F., Andrea T., Gretchen and others are more moderate of accent and slower speaking, so much easier to listen to.

Apologies to all. Didn’t intend to hi-jack the thread. PPM’s comment about talking through the nose just triggered a long-simmering peeve of mine.


32 posted on 05/04/2014 7:16:24 PM PDT by octex
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To: TribalPrincess2U
Stay and fight!

Lol...BTTT!

33 posted on 05/04/2014 7:16:58 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Hawaiians are the least likely to move? I guess if they were a conservative place, I would move there. A friend has a place on the Kona Coast.


34 posted on 05/04/2014 7:18:03 PM PDT by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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To: faithhopecharity

Winters vary, snowfest last year, hardly any below the mountains this year. But the plows are pretty efficient even in the heavier years.


35 posted on 05/04/2014 7:24:57 PM PDT by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: ExCTCitizen

Oops...if they were = if Hawaii were.


36 posted on 05/04/2014 7:25:29 PM PDT by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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To: JennysCool

so Tahoe gets snow and Reno/Minden/Carson City/Minden/etc don’t get snow? or not much snow so as to block the roads?

I guess we will get used to it at any event...

are there any hidden taxes (we understand there’s no state income tax)

thanks!


37 posted on 05/04/2014 7:27:35 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ((Brilliant, Profound Tag Line Goes Here, just as soon as I can think of one..))
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To: sasquatch

I’m real sorry but a poll of 600 spread over 50 states is right about meaningless.
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Exactly! I don’t believe an average of 12 people/State is representative of how most people think/feel.

That’s the problem with the majority of these so-called polls that are always being touted. ..........They will call a thousand people across the country and then say “the majority of Americans are/are not in favor of ‘blah, blah, blah’”.

Problem is that the LIVs often just believe whatever the pollsters tell them.


38 posted on 05/04/2014 7:32:30 PM PDT by octex
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To: Verginius Rufus
But maybe if they added the suburban areas in Virginia and Maryland it might make it possible to salvage the rest of Virginia.

That would be the only way to change the descent of Virginia into just another liberal state. I'm not too sure I can stay here for much longer; Alabama (my home state) beckons...and I speak the language.

39 posted on 05/04/2014 7:41:37 PM PDT by OldPossum ("It's" is the contraction of "it" and "is"; think about ITS implications.)
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To: freedumb2003

I really love Texas and am glad I brought my Conservative sensibilities with me from now dying California.
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Glad to hear you adapted to Texas folks and culture! I liked your entire post and your About page is also great.


40 posted on 05/04/2014 7:46:21 PM PDT by octex
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To: faithhopecharity

I live in the Sacramento area right now. We have been thinking of retiring in the Reno area. We go there a lot checking out the different neighborhoods. Somersett and Arrowcreek are our favorites. Both are well planned communities with beautiful views. Open space. Golf courses. Trails. The only thing holding us back is that we love our home and neighborhood.


41 posted on 05/04/2014 7:48:52 PM PDT by willk (everyone)
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To: staytrue; sasquatch

Article says AT LEAST 600 FROM EACH STATE.
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I also missed that it was from EACH State, when I commented to sasquatch.

Doesn’t discount my assertion that the sample size is too small for the polls to publish figures as though the results represent the majority of people in each State.


42 posted on 05/04/2014 7:51:23 PM PDT by octex
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To: SeekAndFind

Hey man, if you lived in Pahrump Nevada, you’d want to get the hell out too.


43 posted on 05/04/2014 7:55:40 PM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) obammy lied and lied and lied)
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To: freedomfiter2

“Stay put. Y’all made your bed.”

Don’t blame nevadans, california virtually tripled our population since the 80s, and brought their krap with em. Once the locusts finsh devouring all that is good, they will ravage the next conservative state, and frankly, texas, tag you’re it


44 posted on 05/04/2014 8:08:51 PM PDT by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ. In the US the number is 54%i)
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To: bigbob

The problem in left leaning states is that both parties are corrupt. While many individuals are innocent, the majority of the voters give their consent at the polls.


45 posted on 05/04/2014 8:43:35 PM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: SeekAndFind

That’s the truth! ILL-ANNOY SUCKS


46 posted on 05/05/2014 12:46:51 AM PDT by blondee123 (DICTATORSHIP HAS ARRIVED! Nov. 6, 2012)
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To: cicero2k
Surprising to me is Idaho. Reasons for leaving: bad weather and bad schools.

Bad weather: Eastern Idaho which is cold and windy. Most of the population lives in the "banana belt of Idaho" around Boise.

Bad schools: Nampa School District is awful. Other public schools are influenced by the LDS Church. The LDS Church and social network is a factor that almost everyone knows exists but rarely mentions directly.

I'd move back to Alaska if I could.

47 posted on 05/05/2014 3:45:58 AM PDT by Victoria_R (Believers in VERY small government: Count Mountjoy/Benter in 2012!!!)
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To: eXe

I live in the Vegas area, but not “IN” Vegas. I’ve been here since 1983, but I was also born in Reno. I’m not leaving. I love the heat. I’m *knock on wood* isolated from the crime. And the LVMS is 20 miles north, across the street from the air base.

As for the Californians who moved here, another wave hit when the Northridge Shake took place, little realizing that we, too, are on a fault line.


48 posted on 05/05/2014 5:58:08 AM PDT by Monkey Face (Thank God we don't look like what we've been through!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Nevada (especially Las Vegas) never really bounced back from the economic downturn late last decade. But also remember, Nevada (because of Vegas) is a state where lots of new people come every year and lots of people leave every year. It’s been that way for a while - broken dreams and all.


49 posted on 05/05/2014 6:01:32 AM PDT by Ted Grant
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To: faithhopecharity

If you like heat, dust and wind, southern Nevada is the place to be. But we also have crime, traffic jams and we are the *kof-kof* home of Harry Reid. If you can stand the stigma of living in his home state, come on down!

It was my home state before it was his and I will welcome you! FReepmail me if I can answer any questions.

‘Face


50 posted on 05/05/2014 6:01:36 AM PDT by Monkey Face (Thank God we don't look like what we've been through!)
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