Skip to comments.Transgender woman files discrimination complaint against Dallas Salvation Army
Posted on 05/04/2014 6:02:59 PM PDT by Salman
Jodielynn Wiley faced being turned out on the street a few weeks ago when her time at the Dallas Salvation Army was nearing an end.
Wiley, a transgender woman who fled from death threats based on her gender identity in Paris, Texas, in February, was staying at the Carr P. Collins Social Service Center off Harry Hines Boulevard since leaving the conservative and dangerous town. She received an extension on her stay until she could be placed in a housing program.
But when an opportunity came up to place her in a two-year housing program with Salvation Army, she said she was told she didnt qualify because she hasnt had gender reassignment surgery.
Wiley was meeting with her case worker and a counselor on April 17 to discuss her options before her exit date of April 21. She was told about the longer program and then asked if she had undergone the surgery.
(Excerpt) Read more at dallasvoice.com ...
Being queer, a freak or pervert has consequences?
Freaks wanting to be treated as if they are normal.
what has been seen cannot be unseen.....ewwwwww.....
Those are the two genders. Everything else is the result of something gone very wrong.
I've always held the Salvation Army in high regard, so I'm going to take this statement with a grain of salt, coming from an apparently gay-oriented publication as it does.
But, as it reads right now, the implication is that the Salvation Army has a housing program for psychologically disturbed, sexually confused men who have had their sexual organs amputated in the belief that this turns them into women, and refuses housing for psychologically disturbed, sexually confused men who have not had their sexual organs amputated in the belief that this turns them into women.
Does anyone else find this troubling? What does the Salvation Army have to say about it?
“the conservative and dangerous town”
Yep, we conservatives are all like double naught spies—deadly dangerous.
So he'll be ... uh.... a "real" woman?
As if I, a "real woman," were a castrated man?
At some point, all the church-related charity hostels and shelters will be shut down if they don't stop sorting people by sex. But it's unsafe --- sexually threatening --- to put people of different sexes together in shared-room or dorm-type situations, so they'll have to deal with a spike in sexual molestation and rape amongst the residents, and then lawsuits-lawsuits-lawsuits.
I can't be the only one who sees that.
I posted a reply on the site to:
Renee Baker · Follow · Plano, Texas
Using genitalia to sort people into male and female may seem like a logical conclusion to many, but it is unconscionable to require individuals to undergo embarrassing inspections. We run into countless exceptions when we include intersex individuals and those with genital differences and genital injuries. We can’t use chromosomes either because they do not determine sex completely. We have to rely on individuals to tell us what their felt sex is. Our determination to use the two-sex system will always fail those of us that fall outside of the box. I believe we should take care of minorities first. The ones suffering the most discrimination should given the greatest consideration, not the least. I really appreciate Nell Gaither for helping all the shelters understand these complex issues. Remember that our compassion arises through understanding. I encourage all to keep learning more and keep trying!
Reply · Like · 9 · Follow Post · May 2 at 11:38pm
WVKayaker · Davao City, Philippines
What a load of dung!
God assigns us a place in the community. He made us male and female. That some people think God made a mistake and wants them to deviate from normality is not the proper basis for a change of genitalia.
God will be the judge and jury in eternity. Most of those caught up in the “sexual orientation” confusion are just seeking to make physical pleasure the dominant part of their life.
At one time, the DSMV labeled homosexuality (and all of its iterations like this one) to be a deviant behavior, but due to political pressures and a vocal/militant LGBT minority, we have come down to being forced to accept them into the larger community.
BUT, homosexuality is the sole search for physical pleasure, at the expense of falling into a deviant behavior. The homosexual community is full of hubris and constantly presents us with open, in-your-face sexual activity.
What someone does in their home/bedroom is none of my business. BUT, when they put their displays in front of my children/grandchildren, I will continue to speak against them and their abhorrent behaviors. This is just more of the same!.
Flame suit on!
Paris, Texas sounds like my kinda town! What’s the retirement community like?
Where’s the Eye Bleach Warning on this thread?
“was staying at the Carr P. Collins Social Service Center off Harry Hines Boulevard since leaving the conservative and dangerous town”
Dangerous to whom? Fags and freaks? I like this town!
Used to be that mental illness was treated instead of coddled. Reinforcing delusional behavior never leads to positive outcomes for anyone.
I have no hate for transgenders anymore than I ‘hate’ a retarded person, someone with OCD, BiPolar disorder or any other mental illness or dysfunction. But I really have issues with the ‘supposedly’ normal people that abuse them by coddling their problem. And it is very much abuse.
People coddling them should be publicly treated as what they are. Abusers.
That ain’t no woman
Reinforcing irresponsible behavior never leads to positive outcomes for anyone.
That too. 100% agreement. And the delusional regularly leads directly to the irresponsible.
The guy seems able-bodied (so to speak) and reasonably healthy. Why did he need shelter in the first place? Could he not afford his own apartment or shack up with some progressive-minded LGBTQ person in Paris or Dallas? Why should he receive a two-year housing program in the first place?
I think if someone wants to move into a castle in the sky, he ought to be required to pay for it himself. Or is this one of tose “test” cases special interest groups so love to pursue in order to force others to accommodate their fantasies?
he.she.it sounds very mixed up.
pray for he/she/it
meanwhile, he/she/it should not sue a charity that was trying to help he/she/it
even if the charity people got something wrong, who can really blame them anyway!?
the older they come out as women the uglier they look. Don’t they know they look like that way???????
I want to here tapes of the death threats.
I don’t believe anyone threatened HIM.
I’ve met a couple of “Transgenders” and they strike me as psychotic. I simply don’t believe they received death threats. They make it up to validate their fears
I blame it on the doctors who do this for the right price and a government which condones it.. The same thing with abortions.
What you said! !!!
God is sovereign.
God condemns homosexual behavior.
He indeed is the Judge.... and there is NO escaping/plea bargaining/getting off on a technicality with Him.
I saw one of those at Lockheed Martin in New Jersey. He/she had a beard and wore a dress. We had to go to a three hour class on diversity for this freak. He/she had his/her own bathroom.
Gender is a grammatical distinction in language.
Sex of an individual is what you are born as.
Could the town sue the article writer for slander?
I’m seeing “she” and “her” an awful lot in that article. Someone is pushing an agenda ...
OMG, we have found Neelix!
Did any of them respond to you scolding you about hermaphrodism? Don’t worry - they will!
I think it is simpler than that.
They don’t put humans with male sexual organs in the women’s housing, no matter how the male dresses.
But when an opportunity came up to place her in a two-year housing program with Salvation Army....
Lazy, welfare abusing, spam sucking, trailer trash
I may be off base, but here is what I have observed about some gay men and some transgenders.
They want to be women but don’t know how. They perceive women in a completely convoluted way- see Tootsie. There is a scene where Dustin Hoffman is trying to be feminine, just listening to Jessica Lange talk and is completely awkward just trying to figure out what to do with his hands. It is effortless for me to exude femininity by twirling a strand of my hair, absentmindedly chewing my nails or dangling my strappy sandal by my toes. I may not even know I have done it but someone who is faking this looks like they are faking it and no amount of practice will make it look like they were born to do it.
Some don’t see women as full time moms or daughters or full time employees. Women attract men and the wannabees only see the parts of women that do that- faces, mannerisms, hair, sexual orifices.
Most of the gay men I have worked with WERE great. But, two were violent psychopaths who HATED women. H A T E D.
My thoughts- those two failed as men. They thought that they could easily slide into a woman’s role but didn’t have the faintest idea on how do do that other than to offer their sexual orifice, which is all they thought that women had to do to attract a man.
It is sad.
Putting a biological male in a woman’s shelter puts them at risk of rape, since he has the plumbing - and violates their right to privacy.
Putting a male who is half way transformed to female puts IT at risk of rape by full males.
The only solutions for the Salvation Army are:
* pay for a separate housing facility for people as confused as this
* pay for a hotel for it, so it isn’t in a main shelter
* put it in a psychiatric institute for gender dimorphic disorder until it decides it is actually the gender it was born OR has surgery to become female in plumbing
* deny all assistance
Yes I wondered if they really were getting into this type of activity as I had always thought of them as a Christian org. What is disturbing is that HOUSTON has a similar ordinance set to FORCE upon us with another City Hall pop off session on Tuesday. Get there at noon if you want to join the fray to fight back against this ordinance. Call City secretary in advance to speak 3 mins. Its the EQUAL RIGHTS ORDINANCE.....WARRIORS NEEDED.
There is no such thing as transformed to female, period. It is not possible except in science fiction. He is and always will be male.
Tell him to cut the pansy shit and get a job.
He or She went to the wrong army.
The US Army would accept him or her.
Wow is the author projecting..
” since leaving the conservative and dangerous town”
I HIGHLY doubt the US military would take he/she/it either.
Then again, zero might have finished his “transformation” of the military by now.
Enough money to visit the butcher surgeons buy won’t pay for HIS own rent. What an arse.
Reading far enough, I finally confirmed my suspicions: it would be a room shared by 2 people, who also share a bathroom with 2 more.
I have no idea why a battered real woman would feel uncomfortable, and not want to share a room and/or bathroom with a person sporting male anatomy.
This fake woman and her enablers are totally sick and disgusting. And the more so since their only concern is for their own hurt feelings, and everyone else be damned.
That thing on the left reminds me of Neelix, with none of Neelix’s charm.
Looks so natural in that stance, too; makes me wonder how often it’s been handcuffed.