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BENGHAZI MADE SIMPLE
NRO | 5/3/2014 | Jonah Goldberg

Posted on 05/04/2014 7:21:19 PM PDT by Dqban22

Benghazi Made Simple

The White House’s political and ideological instincts overpowered everything else.

By Jonah Goldberg NRO 5/3/2014

On Wednesday, Jay Carney explained — as if he was talking to a room full of children — that the Benghazi e-mail the White House refused to release until the White House was forced to release its Benghazi e-mails wasn’t in fact about Benghazi, even though the e-mail talks about Benghazi. This is Monty Pythonesque of “Dead Parrot” proportions. That’s not a Benghazi e-mail, it’s just an e-mail about Benghazi, in a folder marked “Benghazi” e-mails, idiot.

As I said on Fox yesterday, Jay Carney is a very strange creature for Washington. He’s an extremely confident liar — we’ve got a lot of those! — but he’s not very convincing. Usually, confidence = convincing. As George Costanza (and in his own way Bill Clinton) liked to say, it’s not a lie if you believe it when you tell it. But with Carney, he lies in a way that makes it seem not so much like he believes it but that you’re an idiot for not believing it. There’s a kind of the-joke’s-on-you feel to the way he talks that reminds me of that (X-rated and not safe for work) Onion article, “Why Do These Homosexuals Keep [Fellating Me]?”

Carney actually seems shocked and, well, disappointed to the point of contemptuousness, when reporters won’t believe him. It’s like no one told him he doesn’t have Jedi mind tricks at his disposal.

Carney: These are not the droids you’re looking for, idiots.

Ed Henry, Fox News: But Jay, these look exactly like the droids we’ve been looking for. In fact, the serial numbers match.

Carney: Ed, I understand your network is deeply invested in finding a story here. But the simple fact is that these are in no way the droids you’re looking for. Move along.

Henry: One last follow-up, Jay. The golden droid on the right just said, “Excuse me sirs, but we are in fact exactly the droids you’ve been looking for. Thank goodness you found us.”

Carney: No, no they didn’t. And besides — I used to be a journalist as you know — and it’s common knowledge among real journalists [Carney winks to the non-Fox reporters in the room] that one should never believe what droids tell them.

Jonathan Karl, ABC: Jay, related question: Here is a photo of you from last month holding up a picture of these exact droids with the quote in the caption reading, ‘Carney vows the White House will not rest until these droids are found.’ Also, ABC News has obtained footage of you from this morning, hugging the two droids right there, with you saying ‘Thank Obama we found you!’ Can you explain that?

[Carney rolls his eyes and then desperately tries to telekinetically choke everyone in the room.]

Henry: Uh, Jay are you okay? Why are you squinting? What’s up with that hand gesture . . .

BENGHAZI MADE SIMPLE

There is an enormous amount of theorizing about what the “real story” behind Benghazi really is. To me it’s always been obvious. The White House was caught off guard — for reasons stemming both from ideology and incompetence — on September 11, 2012. As they have after virtually every other (jihadist) terrorist attack on Americans, they acted as if it had absolutely nothing to do with them. As with the Times Square bomber, the Fort Hood shooter, and other Islamist assaults, there’s always some other reason for the bloodshed, some attempt to claim, at least for a while, that this was an “isolated incident” with no broader implications for the War on Terror or Obama’s foreign policy. Admittedly, even this White House understood that spinning the Benghazi attack as an isolated incident wasn’t going to work (such intense spinning could risk irreparable scrotal torsion). So they went with the story about the video.

The rest of the scandal

http://www.nationalreview.com/node/377126/print


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: benghazi; benrhodes; isolatedincidents; jaycarney; jonahgoldberg; libya; susanrice

1 posted on 05/04/2014 7:21:19 PM PDT by Dqban22
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To: Dqban22

Dumb question: The attack happened at an “annex”. Was there a US embassy in Libya at the time, and were there Marines stationed there?

If so, how long would it have taken them to prepare for combat and travel to the annex?


3 posted on 05/04/2014 7:25:43 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: F15Eagle

I’d like to see that linked to the graphic of the Muslim Brotherhood ties to the White House.

One big ugly web of anti-American intrigue.


4 posted on 05/04/2014 7:29:39 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Dqban22

Link?


5 posted on 05/04/2014 7:29:48 PM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: Dqban22

I’ll make it real simple for ya, Jonah, obama cares nothing about anyone but himself, how’s that for simple


6 posted on 05/04/2014 7:29:49 PM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: BenLurkin
Flashback:

Benghazigate: The Disaster That Should Have Sunk Obama — and Still Could
16 November 2012

Come on! Sink him!
7 posted on 05/04/2014 7:30:19 PM PDT by VitacoreVision
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To: BenLurkin
Dumb question: The attack happened at an “annex”. Was there a US embassy in Libya at the time, and were there Marines stationed there?

If so, how long would it have taken them to prepare for combat and travel to the annex?

Clarifying terms. The initial attack took place at a location serving as a Consulate. The "annex" you refer to was the "CIA Annex" several blocks away where the CIA was engaged in conducting activities we have not yet been made aware of.

US Marines protect Embassies, but not Consulates. The U.S. Embassy in Libya is at Tripoli, about 400 miles away from Benghazi. The Security Staff at the Tripoli Embassy was retained in place by the Acting Head of Mission (in the Ambassador's absence) due to fears that they might also be attacked.

8 posted on 05/04/2014 7:32:26 PM PDT by okie01
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To: Dqban22

Jonah, this article is poorly written. Your premise is solid, but the article does not make the case in an authoritative way. It conveys a cartoon like aura. Sorry Jonah, just my thought.


9 posted on 05/04/2014 7:34:48 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: okie01

Okay.


10 posted on 05/04/2014 7:35:24 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

There is an embassy/consulate in Tripoli. Marines were on the ground at that location. It is only 400 air miles from Tripoli to Benghazzi.


11 posted on 05/04/2014 7:38:47 PM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: yldstrk

Perfect! Like, I’m not cool, or hip, or in-the-know if I don’t know
“This is Monty Pythonesque of “Dead Parrot” proportions.”

Stopped reading right there.
I don’t care.

(Psst! here’s a secret, he doesn’t care for anybody but himself - but he doesn’t even care about himself - he hates himself)
How’s that for crazy?

Narcissism.
It IS crazy.


12 posted on 05/04/2014 7:48:14 PM PDT by spankalib ("I freed a thousand slaves. I could have freed a thousand more if only they knew they were slaves.")
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To: Dqban22; Republicanprofessor; All

Nixon lied, and covered up about a burglary he ordered to an office staffed by Democrats: Nixon resigned, rather that choosing to submit to an Impeachment Trial. Nobody died.

Bill Clinton lied and was Impeached. Vince Foster and Ron Armstrong died.

B. Hussein lied, was AWOL, covered up and is proud of it. Four of his employees were brutally murdered, while Obama slept like a baby.


13 posted on 05/04/2014 7:52:14 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Dqban22

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2014/05/01/cairo_is_key_to_the_benghazi_cover_up


14 posted on 05/04/2014 8:00:59 PM PDT by dontreadthis
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To: BenLurkin

The major U.S. naval air station of the Mediterranean, Sigonella, in Sicily, is very close by. Anyone who tries to claim help was far away is either grossly ignorant or hopes the listeners and readers are. All that command needed was the order “Yes, go.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naval_Air_Station_Sigonella


15 posted on 05/04/2014 8:01:19 PM PDT by Seeing More Clearly Now
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To: Graewoulf

Nixon did not order or request the break in. John Dean probably did. But of course, after the fact, Nixon covered it up. And I don’t think he covered it up so much for the office break in, but that it might uncover “...the whole Cuban thing...”. It was that quote (or to that effect) that preceded the gap in the tapes. I think it had to do with keeping secret certain parts of our [Kennedy’s] involvement in the Bay of Pigs.

(BTW - the “Pentagon Papers” that Nixon tried to keep from getting released was from Johnson’s previous administration. But instead of using Johnson’s failures to his advantage politically, Nixon chose our National Security as a priority.)

Sorry for the sidetrack. But the liberals have used Nixon, and any hint of a Nixon type cover-up, dirty tricks, etc. to go after conservatives 40+ years later. We need to do the same to them, as you point out.


16 posted on 05/04/2014 8:03:26 PM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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To: Dqban22
The Pubs need to do an ad with shots of the four men who died and their loved ones with these questions:

1)Why was there no response to Amb. Steven's request for more security?

2)Why did a CIA agent risk his career and ultimately his life to go from Tripoli to Benghazi to fight off the terrorists, while our CIC and Secretary of State sent no one?

3) What is NOT POLITICAL about:

a) NOT granting a request for better security at an American Consulate

b) NOT sending military assets to rescue personnel at the Consulate during an attack

c) NOT admitting an American Ambassador and three other brave men were killed during a TERRORIST attack on 9/11

d) ALL because doing so MIGHT have undermined a POLITCAL PARTY'S narrative about the effectiveness of their policies RIGHT AFTER their Convention and RIGHT BEFORE an election!

17 posted on 05/04/2014 8:09:14 PM PDT by milagro (There is no peace in appeasement)
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To: 21twelve

” - - - We need to do the same to them, as you point out. - - - “

BUMP X 10!


18 posted on 05/04/2014 8:11:41 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Dqban22

You want simple?

T R E A S O N


19 posted on 05/04/2014 8:19:50 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: Seeing More Clearly Now
The major U.S. naval air station of the Mediterranean, Sigonella, in Sicily, is very close by. Anyone who tries to claim help was far away is either grossly ignorant or hopes the listeners and readers are. All that command needed was the order “Yes, go.”

Reportedly, a 50-man Spec Forces team had been flown in from Croatia. They were in their choppers, ready to go, rotors turning.

An F-18 squadron was standing by, ready to give them cover when they arrived.

Nobody said "Go".

20 posted on 05/04/2014 8:24:29 PM PDT by okie01
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To: Graewoulf
Ron Armstrong?

Who was Ron Armstrong? Did you mean Ron Brown?

21 posted on 05/04/2014 8:43:04 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Dqban22

I think this is far far darker than Mr. Goldberg thinks. I think the Ambassador knew something that would be damaging to the regime and he was deliberately set up.


22 posted on 05/04/2014 8:48:47 PM PDT by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: Dqban22

The good people of Israel would never believe a video launched an intifada


23 posted on 05/04/2014 9:11:45 PM PDT by Steven Tyler
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To: Verginius Rufus

Could be as sometimes my Halfzheimers flares up on me.

Ron A - - - - ? was killed in an airplane “crash” with about 16 CEO’s.

Investing in Bosnia was their business plan.

He was Secretary of Transportation, or a similar post.

The “crash” was in a northern Mediterrean country, only one woman survived with a minor leg wound, but arrived dead when the rescue helicopter landed.

Ron A - - - ? had a bullet-sized hole in the back of his head, as can be seen in FR’s archives.

All were cremated, before arriving back in the USA, counter to US Air Force procedures.


24 posted on 05/04/2014 9:12:27 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Steven Tyler

A video of the US Sec of State calling for an intifada could


25 posted on 05/04/2014 9:12:31 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Dqban22
Real simple, Muslim Brotherhood Obama and Muslim loving Hillary wanted the Ambassador dead!!
26 posted on 05/04/2014 9:18:47 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: Dqban22
This is Monty Pythonesque of “Dead Parrot” proportions. That’s not a Benghazi e-mail, it’s just an e-mail about Benghazi, in a folder marked “Benghazi” e-mails, idiot.

Pictured is Carney on the left and the guy with the dead parrot on the right is a normal person.

27 posted on 05/04/2014 9:19:06 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Nuc 1.1

“I think the Ambassador knew something that would be damaging to the regime and he was deliberately set up.”

Perhaps. But in some ways I think it is even more evil to not rescue him (and 30 other people) in order to cover up one’s lies (arms supplies).


28 posted on 05/04/2014 9:22:01 PM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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To: BenLurkin

Another Question?

Over eighteen months have passed and still no capture has been made on those terrorists involved in the Benghazi massacre. Why? We have no leadership in the White House. Obama is a national disgrace.
We went after Ben Laden but not these ass holes. Again, Why?

A Partial answer

http://www.wnd.com/2013/10/why-top-benghazi-suspect-wasnt-apprehended/


29 posted on 05/04/2014 9:24:51 PM PDT by hapnHal (hapnHal)
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To: Graewoulf; Verginius Rufus

Ron Brown.


30 posted on 05/04/2014 9:27:14 PM PDT by okie01
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To: okie01

Thank you. I stand corrected!


31 posted on 05/04/2014 9:32:08 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Dqban22


32 posted on 05/04/2014 9:33:50 PM PDT by garjog (Obama: making the world safe for Sharia.)
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To: Dqban22

Here is a question I would like to see asked of Mr Carney (with followups):

IF an administration DID lie about what happened during a terrorist attack on an American Consulate in which the Ambasodor and others are murdered should it be investigated ?

IF an administration was mistaken about what happened during a terrorist attack on an American Consulate in which the Ambasodor and others are murdered should THAT be investigated ?

A previous administration said that the intelligence they got about WMDs was mistaken. Should that have been investigated?
Was it possible that that administration lied about the intelligence?

How do we know if they made a mistake or if they lied?


33 posted on 05/04/2014 10:01:41 PM PDT by woofie
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To: Dqban22

"After my re-election this week, I will have more flexibility, my lord
and will shut down all investigation ... as before."

34 posted on 05/05/2014 3:57:12 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: 21twelve

Concur. I think but cannot prove the WH and/or State set the ambassador up to be killed and that is the purpose of the coverup. Hope we are able to hold them accountable.


35 posted on 05/05/2014 7:53:59 AM PDT by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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