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Saudi Arabia Relocating Takfiri Fighters From Syria To Ukraine
FARS News Agency ^ | May 4, 2014

Posted on 05/05/2014 3:52:40 AM PDT by Fennie

TEHRAN (FNA) - Saudi Arabia has sent a large number of Takfiri fighters in Syria to Ukraine to fight the pro-Russian protesters in the European country.

"A large number of terrorist Takfiri fighters in Syria, who bear Saudi and Chechnian nationalities and receive financial and military backup from the Saudi intelligence agency, have been transferred to the Ukrainian capital, Kiev, on several planes to help the Ukrainian army in its fight against the pro-Russian population," an Arab security official told FNA on Sunday on the condition of anonymity due to the secrecy of the issue.

"The forces have been immediately dispatched to Kramatosk city in Eastern Ukraine, and are now fighting beside the Ukrainian army forces against the pro-Russians under the name of militias who support the government," the source added.

The source explained that Saudi Arabia seeks to take revenge from Russia and pro-Russian people in Ukraine due to Moscow's support for Syrian President Bashar al-Assad in the war on rebel groups.

(Excerpt) Read more at english.farsnews.com ...


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1 posted on 05/05/2014 3:52:40 AM PDT by Fennie
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To: Fennie

Russians and Arabs. The biggest liars in the known universe.


2 posted on 05/05/2014 4:05:59 AM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: Fennie

It’s a ninety percent chance that the story is fake...but it adds certain elements to a different game if it were true.

First, the Saudis have these guys under a contract of sorts...so they don’t care who they fight. Second, there is open hostility over how Russia played out the Assad game and wound up President Obama into a no-move situation. Third, the Saudis owe nothing to Russia...or to the Ukraine, or to the EU. Fourth, the minute you say Chechen rebels....it stirs up a hornet’s nest with Russians. Fifth...if the Chechens did get back into this Russia episode....it harms Russian stability.

So I’m not betting on the story being true....but man, it would really change the whole strategy at work presently.


3 posted on 05/05/2014 4:10:10 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: pepsionice

“So I’m not betting on the story being true....but man, it would really change the whole strategy at work presently.”

The problem initiating any war is that the moment you do the entire picture changes. The strategy you start with won’t last more than a month and then you either continuously adapt on the ground or you die. (That is the huge problem I see with how the US conducts a war now. It’s run by desk jockeys 12,000 miles away. So, not only does their strategy become obsolete their view is filtered through people who don’t want to tell them they’re failing.)


4 posted on 05/05/2014 4:14:41 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Fennie
I believe the chechens are providing substantial assistance
5 posted on 05/05/2014 4:21:13 AM PDT by MarMema (Run Ted Run)
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To: Gen.Blather

The thing is a mess and despite what the pro Ukrainian propagandists tell us, nobody is 100% innocent in this mess.

As far as muslims fighting in non muslim fights are concerned, there are plenty of stories about Iranians in Venezuela targeting protesters.


6 posted on 05/05/2014 4:21:51 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: cripplecreek

~As far as muslims fighting in non muslim fights~

In fact Crimean Tatars are a single most anti-Russian group in Ukraine and just like Saudis they are a Sunni muslims.


7 posted on 05/05/2014 4:26:49 AM PDT by wetphoenix
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To: Fennie

So the Saudis send their Muslim mercenaries to fight for Ukraine against Russia...and we should take Ukraine’s side? Will we ever learn?


8 posted on 05/05/2014 4:29:45 AM PDT by BobL
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To: pepsionice

This seems crazy now but I have a feeling there are going to be a lot of “war tourists” on both sides in Ukraine. The question is what will happen when they start killing Russians. Putin isn’t going to enjoy getting some of his own irregular warfare medicine.

We have really never seen anything like this live stream and twitter war. Where the escalation will ends I think nobody knows at this point.


9 posted on 05/05/2014 4:32:10 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: BobL

Hell, we’re probably paying for them.


10 posted on 05/05/2014 4:37:06 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: BobL

“So the Saudis send their Muslim mercenaries to fight for Ukraine against Russia...and we should take Ukraine’s side?”

Sometimes I wonder how the hell America became a global superpower.


11 posted on 05/05/2014 4:40:16 AM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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To: Fennie
What's next KGB is going to come up with ? Grey aliens fighting on the Ukrainian side, eating alive “pro-Russians” ?
12 posted on 05/05/2014 4:44:42 AM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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To: cripplecreek

“The thing is a mess and despite what the pro Ukrainian propagandists tell us, nobody is 100% innocent in this mess.”

How would this - even if true - imply any guilt on the part of the Ukrainians? The Ukrainians have the right to ally themselves or hire themselves any scumbags they want to defend their country from invasion. We would do no less here if we believed we needed to.


13 posted on 05/05/2014 4:48:53 AM PDT by vladimir998
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To: Fennie

Who do you root for in this one?


14 posted on 05/05/2014 4:55:40 AM PDT by themidnightskulker
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To: Fennie

Iran propaganda. 100% false. Doesn’t Takfiri mean apostate Muslim?


15 posted on 05/05/2014 4:59:19 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: BobL

You might want to consider dismissing this story as pure propaganda.


16 posted on 05/05/2014 5:02:44 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: themidnightskulker

I root for the truth, which is in short supply these day, and I’m not getting it from either side. The EU/US government homos are all telling me to root for those nice democracy loving young people in Kiev who only want to be Americans. Vlad the impaler, the defender of Christianity, is telling me that they’re just a bunch of Neo-nazi globalist bankers Tea Party Muslim Atheists who want forced abortions and homo orgies in everyone’s living rooms.

Who can you believe?


17 posted on 05/05/2014 5:08:22 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Fennie

Fars News Agency

The Fars News Agency was established in January 2003 on the anniversary of Iran’s Islamic Revolution. Fars claims to be the “leading independent news agency” in Iran; it is common knowledge, however, that Fars News has close ties to Iran’s Sepah (Revolutionary Guards Corps). In the Western media, Fars News is commonly referred to as either the “semi-official Fars News Agency” or the “state-run Fars News Agency.” The agency’s mission statement proclaims it aims to “promote the principles of the Islamic Revolution and safeguard national interests.”

Fars’ managing director and editor in chief are Saeid Noubari and Abbas Darvish Tavangar, respectively. Saeid Noubari is Tehran Justice Department ‘s former head of public relations. In addition to being Fars’ editor in chief, Abbas Darvish Tavangar is also the head of the Association of Iranian Journalists and Reporters. Fars publishes news in Persian, English, Turkish, and Arabic. On May 7th, 2012 Fars announced it would soon start a Russian-language

- See more at: http://www.iranmediaresearch.org/en/wiki/article/982#sthash.cOhMBaoS.dpuf


18 posted on 05/05/2014 5:20:59 AM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: demshateGod
I don't believe any of them. All this talk of freedom is a bunch of BS anyway. They're just fighting over which dictator they want.

Van Rompuy: If The Public Doesn't Want EU Expansion, 'We Do It Anyway'

My side is the side that stays the hell out of it.
19 posted on 05/05/2014 5:27:16 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: BobL

This is from what is apparently an Iranian site. Saudi Arabia has been supposedly considering the Iranian nuke sites for years. I would take this with a HUGE grain of salt. It also should not be on Front Page news as it is little more than a rumor.


20 posted on 05/05/2014 5:38:29 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: cripplecreek
"Hell, we’re probably paying for them.

Every time we fill the gas tank.

21 posted on 05/05/2014 5:45:45 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: SeeSharp

Give Obama a chance. They had a head start.


22 posted on 05/05/2014 5:46:20 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Fennie

Total bunk


23 posted on 05/05/2014 5:58:17 AM PDT by Rich21IE
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To: Fennie

Consider the source... Iranian state media.


24 posted on 05/05/2014 6:50:49 AM PDT by Thunder90 (All posts soley represent my own opinion.)
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To: Fennie
Methinks the Persians are floating this story as a prelude to a movie contract.

5.56mm

25 posted on 05/05/2014 6:54:50 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: demshateGod

“Who can you believe?”

That is a better question.


26 posted on 05/05/2014 6:55:22 AM PDT by themidnightskulker
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To: Fennie

Saudi Arabia: The first enemy America should have taken down after 9/11.


27 posted on 05/05/2014 7:21:46 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: demshateGod

takfiri are sunni muslims who believe that anyone of another religion is a legitimate trget for death, including sunnis who do not believe in exactly the same ideals as they do. They are basically jihadist sunni supremacists with genocidal fantasies.


28 posted on 05/05/2014 7:54:38 AM PDT by hannibaal
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To: demshateGod

In addition to my last post, they are so extreme that al qaeda asked them to tone it down a little.


29 posted on 05/05/2014 7:55:31 AM PDT by hannibaal
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To: SeeSharp

This is sourced from the Iranian mullahcracy’s propaganda arm, and therefore you’re only half right.


30 posted on 05/05/2014 8:27:09 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

The story is total BS.
The poster above is right, the source is from Ayatollah led Iran.


31 posted on 05/05/2014 9:56:27 AM PDT by BlueSky194
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To: Fennie

So, help me out here, why isn’t this a win win for America?

Saudis killing Russians on THEIR NICKEL!


32 posted on 05/05/2014 10:23:49 AM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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To: pepsionice

Your scenario is as good as anybody’s. And it looks to me that the Soddies keep working at exporting their own trouble makers. If they happen to have an axe to grind with someone else, like, oh, say, Russia I can see them spending money in that direction. But I still say the Mid east won’t settle down until the Soddy’s get their throats cut also.


33 posted on 05/05/2014 10:49:40 AM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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The Takfiri fighters, aka the Al-Nusra Front, aka al-Qaeda in Iraq, when there were American infidels to kill there.

34 posted on 05/05/2014 11:06:18 AM PDT by SJackson (the Democrats take back control, we don’t make (this) kind of naked power grab, J Biden)
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To: Fennie

I’m glad people are posting the Iranian perspective on Ukrainian events now. So relevant, so unbiased, having to take news from an Iranian propaganda agency to support an pro-Putin worldview. It seems just posting repeatedly from Russian propaganda agencies isn’t enough now.

Why don’t you start posting from North Korean, Venezuelan and Cuban propaganda agencies too, while you are at this? After all, according to some here they are no worse than the lamestream media.


35 posted on 05/05/2014 11:23:15 AM PDT by Corporate Democrat
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To: cripplecreek

(Hell, we’re probably paying for them.)

True and very ammusing indeed. I laughed knowing how the obamanation regime has sent billions of taxpayer dollars to both Islamic terrorist nations like Egypt and Iran and support many marxist nations worldwide.


36 posted on 05/05/2014 12:03:55 PM PDT by kindred (They that observe lying vanities forsake their own mercy. Salvation by Lord Jesus only!)
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To: Fred Nerks; Nachum

Now the Kielbasa is from the fat into the fire!

Ping to the Tartars and Saudis fighting against Russia in the Ukraine.( Barrack Obama and the Muslim Brotherhood approve of this message.)

Your prediction to me of 4 days ago has come true Fred.( You should be playing the stock market.)

NATO is dead and dying.Maybe it will last 2 more years but I doubt it. The USA now follows the rancid camel arses of the ME, NATO be damned.We are no longer NATO allies in fact.


37 posted on 05/05/2014 12:04:55 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: Fennie

Great. We used to only have to put up with Putin’s propaganda on this site. Now, we’re getting it from his allies the mad mullahs. And since his secret police and theirs work hand in glove together, it should come as no surprise that they’re now spouting the same propaganda. I cannot wait till the Iranian press tells us what a great Christian Putin is.


38 posted on 05/05/2014 12:26:23 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: Fennie

“Saudi Arabia Relocating Takfiri Fighters From Syria To Ukraine”

and the companion story from FARS was:

“Iranian government scientists prove the moon is made of green cheese.”


39 posted on 05/05/2014 12:30:01 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: Gen.Blather

Another problem with wars is that as soon as you get into one, any gang of knuckleheads with a beef against you is going to treat it as an invitation to join in.


40 posted on 05/05/2014 2:13:29 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Folks, the electoral fix is in.)
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To: Fennie

One of my predictions to all this mess, is a jihad revival that storms over Moscow from the south

The Russian bear invading Israel while aligned with Persia, Libya and Sudan fits much nicer with an Islamic Russia

I wonder...


41 posted on 05/05/2014 2:25:46 PM PDT by RaceBannon (Lk 16:31 And he said unto him If they hear not Moses and the prophets neither will theybe persuaded)
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To: Fennie

Russian chatter has been anti-Saudi and pro-Iranian for a long time.


42 posted on 05/05/2014 2:32:04 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: Candor7; pepsionice; Gen.Blather; cripplecreek; BobL; Grzegorz 246; demshateGod; Fitzy_888; ...

All one had to ask; is islam involved? and there’s your answer. Then the warning bells rang when the Tartars threatened to bring their fighters ‘home’ from Syria. And the MSM never told you anything about that, did they?

Crimean Tatars Want UN Peacekeepers

April 01, 2014 1:28 PM

http://www.voanews.com/content/crimean-tatars-want-un-peacekeepers/1883983.html

excerpt:

After the meeting, Dzhemilev told VOA’s Russian service he feared Crimean Tatars could be the targets of violence under Russian rule, and he would like to see international peacekeepers deployed to Crimea.

“We have serious fears about what can happen there, and asked for the introduction of U.N. peacekeeping forces,” he said. “But since that is something decided by the U.N. Security Council, where Russia has the right to veto, this is quite unlikely.”

A second option, Dzhemilev said, would be to send in NATO forces, as was done in Kosovo.


Seems they want what NATO did in Serbia, what NATO did in Libya, what NATO wanted to do in Syria and couldn’t get away with...and the west is so busy blaming Russia they haven’t noticed islam is trying to start another civil war.


43 posted on 05/05/2014 2:48:59 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks

I don’t doubt Russia has plenty of guilt in this case but I’ve never bought the fantasy of utter Ukrainian innocence. I’m 50 years old and know that situations like this simply don’t have many innocent people aside from the civilians caught in the middle.

In this case you have Russia, The Ukrainians, The EU, and likely the USA all attempting to manipulate the situation and I want no part of it.

It is kind of interesting that just a couple of weeks ago Obama falsely declared that Kosovo gained their independence through a free and fair referendum. He didn’t mention the part about the forced removal of the Serbs from Kosovo first.


44 posted on 05/05/2014 2:59:55 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: cripplecreek
"As far as muslims fighting in non muslim fights are concerned, there are plenty of stories about Iranians in Venezuela targeting protesters."

Yep. It's in Iran's interest with its closest friend.

Russia engages in 'gangland' diplomacy as it sends warship to the Caribbean (Exercise with Venezuelan military, 2008)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2088262/posts

Russia to build 2 Kalashnikov factories in Venezuela by 2010
http://en.rian.ru/russia/20070806/70445720.html

Russia's Putin wishes Castro a happy 80th birthday
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1683232/posts

Putin makes veiled warning over Iran military strike
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1629706/posts

Why Russia should sell weapons to Iran and Syria
RIA Novosti (Russian state-owned outlet) ^ | 08AUG07 |
Marianna Belenkaya, Russian Government
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1878354/posts

Russia to set up missile shield for Iran
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1944948/posts

Russia agrees to build at least two more nuclear plants: Iran
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3132600/posts

Moscow transfers full control of Bushehr nuclear reactor to Iran
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3071234/posts

Iran, Russia advise Assad to transfer chemical stockpile to Tehran - to avert US attack
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3061749/posts

S. Korea, U.S. verifying reports on test of new N.K. missile in Iran: source
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1834307/posts

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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1742991/posts

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45 posted on 05/05/2014 3:04:00 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: Candor7; All

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2014/03/140314-crimea-tatars-referendum-russia-muslim-ethnic-history-culture/

WHO ARE THE CRIMEAN TARTARS?

....Some of the children of the deported—raised in Uzbekistan and now adults—have returned to become leaders. Refat Chubarov, head of the Mejlis of the Crimean Tatar People, the representative body of the Tatars, has called on his people—there are now approximately 300,000 Tatars in Crimea—to peacefully boycott the referendum. Nevertheless, some Crimean Tatars have vowed to oppose secession, with force if necessary.

According to Western press reports, some Tatars fighting with the rebels in Syria have offered to return to join the cause...


46 posted on 05/05/2014 3:07:27 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Candor7
...NATO is dead and dying.Maybe it will last 2 more years but I doubt it. The USA now follows the rancid camel arses of the ME, NATO be damned.We are no longer NATO allies in fact.

NATO is what? A tool of islam?

47 posted on 05/05/2014 3:10:34 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: cripplecreek

Kosovo independence: Russia warns of separatist storm
Christian Science Monitor ^ | February 20, 2008 | Fred Weir

Posted on 04 May 2014 02:51:18 PM by Mount Athos

Russian President Vladimir Putin charges that Western support for the newly declared state, torn from Serbia this week, is “immoral and illegal” behavior that will provoke a global storm of separatism and explode the international order.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3151903/posts

...Kosovo was seized by NATO in a 1999 war after Serbia was accused of the ethnic cleansing of the tiny territory’s mainly Albanian population. Russia opposed the war, but was persuaded to help negotiate a truce following 78 days of NATO air bombardment of Serbia. Russian experts claim that Moscow’s envoy, Viktor Chernomyrdin, convinced Serbian leader Slobodan Milosevic to surrender by conveying Western pledges that a NATO occupation of Kosovo would never lead to its separation from Serbia. Now, many Russians feel that Moscow’s influence was abused...


48 posted on 05/05/2014 3:19:07 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Candor7

a little history:

2 million, that’s how many people the Crimean Tartars sold into slavery in the slave markets of Istanbul. This does not account for the rapes of women who were not taken into slavery, this does not account for the children and old, who died on Eastern Europe’s version of the Trail of Tears. This does not account for the millions who died defending their homes.

2 million is simply the number of people that were sold by the Crimean Tartars into slavery, in what they called ‘the Harvest.’ We can thank the Ottoman Turks for keeping good accounting of the taxes they collected on the sales.

The Crimean Tartars, you be the judge of what Poles, Moldavians, Belorussians, Russians, Ukrainians, Georgians, and Lithuanians think of them. And just as the Crimean Tartars remember 1944, everyone else remembers what came before.


49 posted on 05/05/2014 3:25:34 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Fennie

Mujahideen, like clockwork! It is 1980s all over again! Kill the commies by any means necessary!


50 posted on 05/05/2014 3:39:00 PM PDT by sagar
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