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UKRAINE: Ukrainian special forces defeated a large group of terrorists
censor.net ^ | 5-5-2014 9 mins

Posted on 05/05/2014 4:52:22 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com

(BING TRANSLATION)Ukrainian special forces in a brutal battle, defeated a large group of terrorists, who attempted to breakout from a surrounded our combatant Slavyansk.

According to sources "Censor." at the headquarters of the ATO, several hundred thugs attacked positions of our pieces, and were thrown back with heavy losses podospevšimi on reserves.

The fight captured significant quantities of sophisticated weapons in Russia, the RUSSIAN GRU spetsnaz. Place the battle left for us at the moment is trimming the battle died down, literally 30 minutes ago.

The decisive role played by INTERIOR MINISTRY special forces detachments "Omega" and "Jaguar", AS special forces detachment alpha.

Unfortunately, in a heavyweight bout our troops have suffered heavy losses. 4 Ukrainian soldier killed, 1 in critical condition. About 20 soldiers were injured, it helped, they were evacuated by helicopters to nearby hospitals.

Eternal memory to the fallen in the battle for freedom and independence of our homeland.


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GOOGLE TRANSLATION 05/05/14 14:22 Ukrainian special forces defeated a large band of terrorists Slovyansk. 4 of our soldiers were killed , 20 injured Ukrainian special forces in a fierce battle defeated a large group of terrorists who attempted to break out of our troops surrounded Sloviansk .

According to sources, " Tsenzor.Net " ATO headquarters , a few hundred thugs attacked the positions of our troops , and were repulsed with heavy losses came to the rescue to help reserves. On the battlefield captured significant quantities of advanced Russian-made weapons , consisting armed Russian Spetsnaz GRU . The battlefield is left for us - it is currently conducted cleanup , fight subsided literally 30 minutes ago , said on Facebook Yuri Butusov . Read also " Tsenzor.NET " : In the Donetsk and Lugansk regions should introduce emergency and normally spend ATO - military expert

" The decisive role played by the Interior Ministry special forces soldiers squads " Omega "and" Jaguar " , the special squad of the SBU " Alpha " .

Unfortunately, in a difficult battle , our troops have suffered heavy losses . 4 Ukrainian soldier killed , 1 - in critical condition. About 20 of our soldiers were wounded , they helped, they are evacuated by helicopter to nearby hospitals .

Eternal memory to the fallen in the battle for freedom and independence of our country ... "

Source : http://censor.net.ua/n284025

1 posted on 05/05/2014 4:52:22 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Good for the Ukrainians.


2 posted on 05/05/2014 5:00:37 AM PDT by vladimir998
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

These computer translators are horrible. Isn’t there someone out there that can do good translations in real time?


3 posted on 05/05/2014 5:13:23 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com
Ukraine crisis: Rebels 'retreating' in Sloviansk
4 posted on 05/05/2014 5:26:57 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Land of the Free and the home of the Brave!)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

I bet our MRE’S came in handy.


5 posted on 05/05/2014 5:29:10 AM PDT by scooby321
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

I think we are going to see that the Russian forces have a glass jaw.

It’s like the fox and the rabbit. The fox is running for his dinner, but the rabbit is running for his life.


6 posted on 05/05/2014 5:36:34 AM PDT by Haiku Guy (Health Care Haiku: If You Have a Right / To the Labor I Provide / I Must Be Your Slave)
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To: Haiku Guy

I think we are going to see that the Russian forces have a glass jaw.

It’s like the fox and the rabbit. The fox is running for his dinner, but the rabbit is running for his life.


Exactly. It’s like the German superman stormtrooper fairy tale in WW2. We know how that turned out. There are so many parallels to WW2 in Ukraine. Scary.


7 posted on 05/05/2014 6:10:37 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com
I apologise for rough translation. Usually I try 3-4 resources. However, I could hardly type to enter info into Free Republic or even sign on to Facebook??? Strange??? I need to personally question just WHAT supplies have been donated by U.S? True, March 27th congress voted to approve military support... but has ANYTHING been done? AS I have shared before. The Ukrainian troops have been existing with little to nothing. The local people are giving water & feeding them what they can. Troops surviving on donations. Most have not rec'd their salary. Wives & children being housed & fed by churches. Some have shared their fight is like David with Goliath. But, STILL they fight for their land, their families, and their future. Prayer has been requested for United Ukraine and these heroic people. I rec'd this report a few minutes ago [I have points of contact from post.] "Today we went to the field. transported ankle boots, camouflage coveralls, capes, pharmacy, utensils at spetspriznachintsіv. Drove back in a couple of places. everyone knew everyone looked their eyes ... Working on. for some time are thrown entirely on the military, which are involved in the active phase of the ATU . Support VVshnikov not considered, they go separate article) -20 year old boy from paratrooper Haisyn district will bury the number 6. Vinnytsia contacted, and help with the funeral and family. Two wounded Marines take into its orbit. One burns, it seems the problem with some sort of drugs. Tomorrow 's go , we know precisely. If there will be another casualty, will probably open a separate account and attract people precisely in this direction. At some checkpoints , guys do not sleep at all. very hard . Problems with water. We carry wet wipes, because they do not always work even wash or wash your hands . Local people who are behind us does not have transportation , can not help . Many not so hostile , but scared . Local push this crap that does not dress head . schizoid latest news that they all believe . FArion Tyahnibok and lobbied the law by which all ethnic Russians suitcase - station - Russia . and who does not agree, those would be shot . And Turchinov this law supposedly signed . And so it came to the troops all realize . Russian propaganda talks about his methods , swapping existing side) It might be funny if it were not so sad. They're scared and believe in any canoe . FArion , Tyagniboka and Turchinov on a good act in Russian and refute. Crown does not fall from the head. Russian-speaking Ukrainian nation , too . a lot of ballot box stuffing and dezy . Today, ballot box stuffing, crushed girl. Tank. then it turned out it was a boy . then a mother with a child. In active points works very much of our specialists , only a matter of time when all the jewelry without hurting civilians , spent mercenaries and subversives . Everything is very protective of the local civil . military commanders , as if heard our pleas . Therefore, even if it is regrouping , why then , but rather in order that there were no civilian casualties . You have to understand that sooner or later all saboteurs and mercenaries slaughtered and peaceful people remain. They should know and understand that their life is the most important thing we have. the day before yesterday, talking to one of commanders . Such an attitude center, he did not remember. In the order of things , when a sick soldier (for patients not injured), when it is impossible to provide on-site assistance, send the chopper to deliver in hospital. This is a completely new attitude towards people. not shovels. Soldiers no longer cannon fodder. Unfortunately, I now can not clearly indicate what part and what you need. Everyone who we carry participate in ATU directly into active points. Then tell. Required. Well, according to tradition. Needs: Very important to all parts antifungal topical socks disposable tableware (bowls) wipes landing Sand bags etc. sleeping bags backpacks ankle boots (list available) water tank (drinking and industrial) wet Wipes Penlight batteries , many small flashlights Shoe polish night vision devices. Binoculars BB NightVision camouflage cloaks ( dummy woodland / forest ) CR123A batteries High boots crockery VVshniki Kiev (gain in Kharkov, security PROGRESS) Cigarettes at the rate of 50-80 packs per day (Pryłuki red and blue) products in the range, prepare yourself. disposable tableware karematov, sleeping Phones girls who are engaged. they say that it is necessary for the needs and where to take 95 paratroopers. rechargeable Flashlights NightVision Binoculars Fez hats (thin) 80 airmobile (Lviv paratroopers) Radios (ideally 5 W) disposable tableware (bowls) hygiene items - disposable machines, toothpaste, toothbrush, soap , shampoo . All that helps fight beriberi, onion, garlic, lemons closer to Tuesday preservation, jam, honey . socks , T-shirts (olive, khaki) ankle boots
8 posted on 05/05/2014 6:22:23 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com
Again, I apologize for translation (BING is the worse!) but, I think you would like to receive some accurate info then none. Russian propaganda is rampant right now, twisting info. I try to include original text when I have less problems with posting. Rec'd post with [VIDEO] Video not detailed but within hour: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=714305688633514 Were on the TV tower under Slavic, it's under our close supervision, helped soldiers. Took three observers separatists surrendered to us. Helicopters working on Slavic video already on the adult: on hangers - NUR, LAW, guns move. Death - teach. We - slow, but win. Были на телевышке под Славянском, она под нашим плотным контролем, помогли бойцам. Взяли трех наблюдателей сепаратистов, сдали нашим. Вертолеты на видео работают по Славянску, уже по взрослому: на подвесках - НУР, ПТРК, пушки шевелятся. Смерти - учат. Мы - медленно, но побеждаем.
9 posted on 05/05/2014 6:36:55 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Video also on youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKav3p2q4jw&feature=youtu.be


10 posted on 05/05/2014 6:39:54 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

This the same “great victory”?

SLOVYANSK, Ukraine — Forces loyal to Ukraine’s interim government battled pro-Russian militiamen Monday in the eastern Ukrainian city of Slovyansk, and the Interior Ministry said four of its troops were killed and 30 wounded, the Associated Press reported.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/ukraine-sends-police-unit-to-odessa-to-restore-order-after-separatists-raid-police-station/2014/05/05/f5c34f9e-d435-11e3-8a78-8fe50322a72c_story.html


11 posted on 05/05/2014 6:43:39 AM PDT by McGruff (I'ts not the crime it's the coverup they said.)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

I read the Washington Post. Post is not to be faulted, yet, I believe there is misinformation contained within article.

Russian psych-ops is strong.

But, slowly by word-of-mouth townspeople realize what is true & false. As will the world.


12 posted on 05/05/2014 6:52:55 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Case in point:

This is the latest post from pastor I have rec’d:

GOOGLE TRANSLATION
“Our children have returned from the Crimea, the Passover festival choirs were there united with Ukraine. The first thing that struck children - is that they -the children of Ukraine- feared. The second thing that struck -during Ukrainian song about her mother cried half the room, everyone started to believe their family and no longer fear began to love

Funny thing - making people propaganda.

In this case, it is obvious that the only witness of the church and church people about the humanity and divinity of love people can kill all the waves of hatred, fear and selfishness.

So the churches can not remain silent. Just like for humans to breathe naturally so the churches should be natural to testify the truth, be the beauty and majesty of the human person and the divine in everything.”


13 posted on 05/05/2014 6:56:58 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Time for Russia to move their troups in and desteroy the goons from the ukraine!


14 posted on 05/05/2014 7:02:20 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

What is the truth, and who are the good guys in all of the Ukrainian situation?


15 posted on 05/05/2014 7:14:06 AM PDT by lurk
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

I am sorry, my mother is not well. I cannot even read my Facebook & report as much as I would like. I trust feet on teh ground more than our media.

YOU CAN FOLLOW:
1. Dmitry Timchuk on Facebook
I trust Dmitry Timchuk posts. Dmitry Tymchuk is a man of integrity. You may follow him on facebook with the other 73,838 people. He frequently is consulted for televised and print media.

Centre for Military and Political Studies
NGO: Non-Govt Org. Created 2008

Mission
discussion and analysis of topical issues of international, regional, national security, the development of the Ukrainian Armed Forces and defense industry

Description
Director: Dmitry Tymchuk
Leading expert Konstantin Mashovets
Experts:
Boris Takaev - military policy, the development of the APU, regional security
Victor Lahvinets - energy security
Andrew Sherihov - information security, ipso, international cooperation, peacekeeping
Yegor Frolov - DIC, military-technical cooperation

2. BBC: They have direct connections.

I will continue to post as I can: BUT I beseech you to pray for the safety of the population and united Ukrainian troops. that God will be glorified.


16 posted on 05/05/2014 7:16:41 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: dalereed

Time for Russia to move their troups in and desteroy the goons from the ukraine!


Your are having a day dream. There are 1,000,000 people in Odesa alone. They aren’t going anywhere.

Putin has a problem now. A big one.


17 posted on 05/05/2014 7:30:46 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Dale Reed, I hope your comments was intended to be sarcasm The Ukraine people want their country to be free. Agree, there are different political views & ethnicity. But, in the U.S. we also have differing views: Democrat/ Republican; Liberal/conservative. Yet, we all are citizens & would unite
against Russian invasion.

Please pray that Ukraine will have a chance to develop


18 posted on 05/05/2014 7:51:42 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com
"Terrorists", the go-to propaganda term for every modern government dealing with domestic people opposed to them.

The British call the IRA terrorists, Gaddafi called the rebels in Libya terrorists, Assad calls the "rebels" there terrorists, Ukraine calls eastern Ukrainians using force to oppose them terrorists...

If the Civil War were today, Lincoln and his government would call the Confederacy terrorists.

19 posted on 05/05/2014 7:52:33 AM PDT by PaulCruz2016
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To: PaulCruz2016

“Terrorists”, the go-to propaganda term for every modern government dealing with domestic people opposed to them.


Would you prefer “foreign national unlawful combatant” instead of “terrorist”? Both are accurate so your semantic word games are meaningless.


20 posted on 05/05/2014 7:56:49 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: vladimir998

The paid Russian trolls will be along in a moment to Putinize the comments.


21 posted on 05/05/2014 8:08:20 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Mohammed was a Child Rapist and Islam is a Totalitarian Death Cult.)
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To: PaulCruz2016
The British call the IRA terrorists

The Fenian scum were terrorists. They went around shooting British government officials in the back and almost took out Maggie Thatcher in a bomb attack. When the Brits retaliated in kind against lower ranking IRA terrorists by shooting them on sight, the squeals of horror from these Russian-supplied stone killers had to be heard to be believed. If the Brits had persisted instead of backing off, they would have liquidated the IRA a long time ago.

22 posted on 05/05/2014 8:20:41 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: McGruff; All

New York Times Reporter Chivers was able to drive from Kramatorsk to Slovyansk this morning, after Rebels apparently recaptured the road.

ATTENTION WORLD:
CNN has finally arrived in Slovyansk, and are doing live shots. (How many weeks has this been going on?)
It can be officially called a “Civil War” now, I guess.

CNN reporting that several civilians were killed/injured this morning.


23 posted on 05/05/2014 8:21:49 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: Zhang Fei

What do you think of the Russians allegedly importing more foreign nationals?

That will go over with the locals. Apparently the Russians find enough local villagers and bus station drunks to fight for the glory of the Donetsk Republic.


24 posted on 05/05/2014 8:25:23 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: lurk

As I noted earlier this morning, The U.S. State Department is now PAYING for Pro-Kiev propaganda in Ukraine, under the guise of “Helping Journalists”.

There is disinformation from Kiev, from DC, and from Moscow.

The best you can do is compare ALL sources to the pics and video widely available, and make your own determination.


25 posted on 05/05/2014 8:26:00 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf

Chechens? Is that all you got? The Ukrainians aren’t going anywhere, FRiend.


26 posted on 05/05/2014 8:26:07 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: lodi90

“Apparently the Russians find enough local villagers and bus station drunks to fight for the glory of the Donetsk Republic.”

Several tweets this morning about a group of “Veterans of the Chechnya War” showing up last night in Slovyansk. Likely they are Russian volunteers. Slovansk is sitting on top of a huge Soviet-era Arsenal, so arming them shouldn’t be a problem.

The Odessa Massacre has upset the Russians, so crossing the border to volunteer wouldn’t be all that surprising.


27 posted on 05/05/2014 8:32:22 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf

As I noted earlier this morning, The U.S. State Department is now PAYING for Pro-Kiev propaganda in Ukraine, under the guise of “Helping Journalists”.


All these many weeks I have seen ZERO posts from you complaining about the Russian govermennt PAYING foreign nationals to conduct illegal warfare in Ukraine

You can’t discern the difference between transnational unlawful irregular warfare and a US govt PR program?

I’m sorry, I don’t mean to be rude, but there is no hope for you if you can’t see the difference there. One thing is important and one isn’t. It shouldn’t be a difficult issue to process. Bye


28 posted on 05/05/2014 8:35:13 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

no sarcasm!!

The ones that want to go with the EU need to be destroyed!

The EU itself needs to be destroyed!


29 posted on 05/05/2014 8:35:25 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: tcrlaf

Am picking up may be moving fighters out of Syria to Ukraine as well as Chechnians, who have been coming into Ukraine already.. Neighbor states sending people to support anti-Kiev people.

What a mess this is...


30 posted on 05/05/2014 8:36:03 AM PDT by caww
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To: lodi90

I’m sorry YOU don’t understand.

I can see Kiev organizing propaganda (Exactly WHO is EuromaidanPR, by the way), I can even see the Russians doing it, it is on their border, with their own kinsmen involved.

But Why is the U.S. State Department doing it with our own tax dollars??


31 posted on 05/05/2014 8:40:36 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: lodi90
Your are having a day dream. There are 1,000,000 people in Odesa alone.

So? You seem to be under the delusion that 1,000,000 people is a lot, when in reality it wouldn't take that many soldiers to invade an area of that population.

32 posted on 05/05/2014 8:43:58 AM PDT by PaulCruz2016
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To: caww

The Local Commander in Slovyansk is apparently a well-known Chechnya and Afghanistan Vet, and former Spetnaz Officer.

Given the situation, it wouldn’t be surprising if former vets came to support him. It is just a days drive for many, if they can get across the border, and it’s pretty much wide open.

THIS is what the pro-Kiev crowd should really be afraid of. A standard for the Pro-Russians to rally to. After Odessa, there are a LOT of p****d off Russians.


33 posted on 05/05/2014 8:45:54 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: lodi90
What do you think of the Russians allegedly importing more foreign nationals? That will go over with the locals. Apparently the Russians find enough local villagers and bus station drunks to fight for the glory of the Donetsk Republic.

The Ukrainian government needs to get people loyal to the Ukrainian state organized. In the typical revolution, only several % of the population are active participants, based mainly on organization, motivation and some kind of funding source, so the participants can feed their families. If that several % are secessionists funded by Putin who see Ukraine as a Russian province, it will be that much harder for the Ukrainian government to take control. Putin has agents on the ground. An organized anti-secessionist campaign that gets hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians enrolled in the east and south will deter Putin from invading. Because if he sees that Ukrainians are fired up about keeping the country whole, he will probably calculate that any initial conventional victories will be followed by a steady drip of casualties, just like Iraq, that will cost Russia large sums of money and tens of thousands of dead, not to mention overshadow his reputation as a president who revived the Russian economy (mainly because he was president during a 20-year Chinese economic boom during which Chinese motor vehicle sales went from 2m to 20m a year).

34 posted on 05/05/2014 8:46:51 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: tcrlaf

The Russians are upset the Ukrainians defended themselves in Odesa. Too bad they didn’t just take the beat down like in Donetsk. Right? Now the Russians won’t be able to butcher them at their leisure as they have many times over history.

You act like this foreign national thing is a one way street. So what happens when war tourists arrive and start killing Russians?

It really doesn’t matter what you, I or the US DOS thinks. This is about the Ukrainians. They ain’t going anywhere. Millions of them. It’s becoming clear all Russia can do is create Chaos in Ukraine. To what end?


35 posted on 05/05/2014 8:52:27 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: Zhang Fei; Ivan Mazepa

The Ukrainian government needs to get people loyal to the Ukrainian state organized.


Our FRiend Ivan can confirm but I believe the plan is to get rid of the useless Berkut and replace them with newly created regional self defense battalions. It’s just total chaos without a police force. Society breaks down.


36 posted on 05/05/2014 8:55:49 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

The neighboring nations support Kiev. Even at their football games. You saw in that one video they wore yellow & Blue & heard them chanting Puti is a dou*** bag.

No, Russia is NOT supported by the ex-Russian occupied republics. For the Ukrainian speakers this video was just released https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpmkNUXDzzE#t=94

By the way, there is NO PROOF that the Pro-Ukraine crowd set fire in Odessa. Photos show they actually rescued these pro-separatist that had SHOT AT THEM!!!!

Check out yesterday post & photos. Actually, fires appeared before windows were broken, placement and appearance of bodies leave many questions previously dead? Fire set by pro-separatists to destroy evidence?


37 posted on 05/05/2014 9:25:32 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: lodi90

Russia WANTS to disrupt elections.


38 posted on 05/05/2014 9:27:51 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: lodi90

If this goes much further, it’ll be the most unnecessary war in recent history.


39 posted on 05/05/2014 9:29:20 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Terrorists are apparently admitting 20 KIA. UKR got some good intel from locals. That is critical.


40 posted on 05/05/2014 9:43:48 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: PaulCruz2016

The Brits were right. The pIRA were and are terrorists. You are no doubt aware of Gerry Adam’s recent arrest? Why do you think he was released with no charges? Threats to re-ignite ‘The Troubles’ from the ‘provos’! The ‘provo’ religion is nothing but blood and communism. They never got rid of all their guns, merely hid them.


41 posted on 05/05/2014 9:45:39 AM PDT by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was blind but now I see...)
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To: tcrlaf
After Odessa, there are a LOT of p****d off Russians.

Of course. They are fed Putin propaganda, they don't think for themselves, and they react to it.

A foreshadow of what will happen in this country after decades of propaganda targeted to make certain segments of our country pissed off.

And people think it's just happening over there.

I wish the Ukrainian people well and independence from a Russia tyranny as it will be a leading indicator what happens here.

42 posted on 05/05/2014 9:46:00 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: tcrlaf
Quote: "...there are a LOT of p****d off Russians."

And more than a few are posting on FR, right товарищ? I hope the FSB rewards you well for your efforts.

43 posted on 05/05/2014 9:52:00 AM PDT by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was blind but now I see...)
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To: FreeReign

Putin has sent Chechens. I imagine that will go over well with the locals. UKR is getting some good intel from locals. They wouldn’t have been able to operate and lay a major smack down on Team FSB today without it.


44 posted on 05/05/2014 9:55:56 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: lodi90
Putin has sent Chechens. I imagine that will go over well with the locals. UKR is getting some good intel from locals. They wouldn’t have been able to operate and lay a major smack down on Team FSB today without it.

He's also sending S. Ossetians too.

Putin did this in Georgia. He sent Muslim Chechens to do ethnic cleansing of Georgian Christians in S. Ossetia.

45 posted on 05/05/2014 10:14:02 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign

Georgia has a 4 million people. UKR 45 million. And Putin is using the same tactics?

So where is UKR supposed to send the Chechen body bags?

Putin is afloat in his own flatulence. He’s escalating the situation without understanding the dynamics of this new live stream/twitter/internet war.


46 posted on 05/05/2014 10:19:35 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: A Formerly Proud Canadian

I’m trying to be reasonable, and you just want to be an a**.

Not taking the MaidanPR propaganda at face value is “Working for the FSB?

I’m SURE you are quite the hit over at Dailykos, right?


47 posted on 05/05/2014 10:28:20 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks UMCRevMom@aol.com.


48 posted on 05/05/2014 10:36:24 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: lodi90
Re tourists, here's a bio of Rick Rescorla, a Cornishman who, as Head of Security at Morgan Stanley's WTC location during 9/11, lost his life while trying to round up more employees to evacuate after the first plane hit. In an earlier life, served in Rhodesia (now Zimbabwe) and Vietnam. He was a significant figure in Col Harold Moore's book We were Soldiers Once (and Young):

UK military

Rescorla left Hayle in 1956 to join the British military.[3] He enlisted in the British Army in 1957, training as a paratrooper with The Parachute Regiment and then serving with an intelligence unit in Cyprus during the EOKA Cypriot insurgency[4] from 1957 to 1960.[3] He then served as a paramilitary police inspector in the Northern Rhodesia Police (now the Zambia Police Service)[4] from 1960 to 1963, experiences which made him a fierce anti-Communist.[3] It was during the latter post that he met and forged a "life-altering friendship" with American soldier Daniel J. Hill, who inspired Rescorla to join the U.S. Army and fight in Vietnam[4] in order to fight the communists.[3] On returning to London and civilian life, he joined the Metropolitan Police Service.

US military

His tenure at the Met was shortlived and he soon resigned and moved to the United States. He lived at a YMCA hostel in Brooklyn until he was able to enlist in the Army. "Rick", as he would thereafter be known, enlisted in the United States Army in 1963 and after basic training at Fort Dix, he attended Officer Candidate School and airborne training at Fort Benning. Upon graduating Rescorla was assigned as a platoon leader in the 2nd Battalion, 7th Cavalry Regiment, 1st Cavalry Division (Airmobile).

Rescorla was sent to Vietnam, where he served under the command of Lieutenant Colonel Hal Moore. The two participated in the 1965 Battle of Ia Drang, which Moore would later describe in a 1992 book he co-authored We Were Soldiers Once… And Young, (from which the 2002 Mel Gibson film We Were Soldiers would be adapted). Rescorla is the soldier pictured on the book jacket cover. Co-author Lieutenant Colonel Hal Moore described him as "the best platoon leader I ever saw". Rescorla's men nicknamed him "Hard Core" for his bravery in battle and revered him for his good humor and compassion towards his men.[3][7] He is also mentioned in the book Baptism by Larry Gwin who also fought at Ia Drang. The fourteenth chapter of the book Rescorla's Game describes him as the "Cornish Hawk". Despite this tough image, according to his second wife and widow Susan Rescorla in her book, Touched by a Hero, music was "so central" to Rick's life that he sang to his troops in Vietnam to calm them – something he would later employ during 9/11.[4]

Rescorla's Vietnam honors included the Silver Star, the Bronze Star with Oak Leaf Cluster, a Purple Heart and the Vietnamese Cross of Gallantry.[citation needed]

In April 2001 Rescorla was chosen for induction into the Infantry Officer Candidate School Hall of Fame and was invited to participate in ceremonies at Fort Benning.[3]

Here's a bio of his good friend, Daniel Hill, who served in Rhodesia (now Zimbabwe), Vietnam and Afghanistan:

Daniel J. Hill (born 1938 in Oak Park, Illinois) joined the United States Army at the age of 15, by lying about his age. He eventually became a Special Forces paratrooper and served in Germany, where he participated in missions during the Hungarian Revolution and the struggle for control of Lebanon in 1958.

Following his tour in Germany, he was selected for Ranger school at Fort Benning, where he was asked to return as an instructor. In 1960 he was assigned to infiltrate the Katanga insurrection in the Congo where he met his lifelong friend, Rick Rescorla.

Hill served as a lieutenant during his first tour in Vietnam and a captain during his second. After his first tour, he was awarded the Silver Star for heroism at Trung Luong, five Bronze Stars, the Purple Heart, the Army Commendation Medal, and the Vietnamese Cross of Gallantry with Palm Leaf.[citation needed] After retiring from the US Army, he converted to Islam and spent time fighting with the Mujahideen against the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan.[


49 posted on 05/05/2014 2:16:19 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: lodi90

Actually, Berkut (American equivalent is the SWAT) was disbanded couple of months ago.

There’s a new structure that has been setup, the National Guard, which is halfway between police and the army. It’s composed of former (vetted) police forces and the Self-Defense of Maidan. It’s currently being used n Sloviansk.

But at the local level, it’s still the same local crooked cops. There’re just so many fires to put out and Avakov (minister of the Internal Affairs) has to rely on them (some Ukrainians start to criticize, it’s betrayal of Maidan by the new government). But Avakov scored many points with this recent offensive in Sloviansk against the Russian terrorists.


50 posted on 05/05/2014 4:28:13 PM PDT by Ivan Mazepa
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