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The Collapse of Anti-Gay Religion
Slate ^ | 5-1-2014 | William Saletan

Posted on 05/05/2014 7:26:10 AM PDT by Flame Retardant

Throughout history, religion has sanctioned and fueled the persecution of homosexuality. That dynamic may be drawing to an end. Polls, clerics, and denominations are shifting. Theology is adapting. Resistance to same-sex marriage is dwindling, and there’s no end in sight.

For 15 years, the Ethics and Public Policy Center has hosted the Faith Angle Forum, a regular conference on religion and public life. Several weeks ago, the group met again to discuss current issues. Transcripts of the conference have just been posted on EPPC’s website. They underscore the extent of the anti-gay collapse.

The first session, led by papal biographer Paul Vallely and Boston Globe editor John Allen, focused on Pope Francis and the Catholic Church. Vallely, the author of Pope Francis: Untying the Knots, noted that before Francis became pope, he supported civil unions in Argentina....

The conference’s second session dwelled on sin. The speakers, Cornelius Plantinga of Calvin College and Ross Douthat of the New York Times, discussed what we should feel bad about. Homosexuality wasn’t on the list.... “It used to be that people thought of homosexual acts as sinful,” he said. “Now they think of criticism of homosexual acts as sinful.”...

The next morning, we had our final session, on the culture wars. Molly Ball, the Atlantic’s terrific political writer, summarized the trend toward acceptance of same-sex marriage. Forty percent of Republicans and 61 percent of Republicans under 30 now favor it, she reported. So do 57 percent of Catholics and 55 percent of mainline Protestants....

There will always be Christians, Muslims, and Jews who condemn homosexuality.... But in this country, religious resistance is crumbling. It’s being overwhelmed by love, conscience, and a God who keeps creating gay kids, even in the most devout families. Over time, He will prevail.

(Excerpt) Read more at slate.com ...


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41 posted on 05/05/2014 8:18:21 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: kcvl

The faggot defended drug rape and forced sodomy.

The girl was not a willing partner.

She still is adamant that Mr. Polanski violated her against he wishes. The only “softening” in her position is that she does not see the point in jailing him now or prosecuting him now for the flight out of the trial.

But then the sex positive agenda seeks to end ALL moral judgments.


42 posted on 05/05/2014 8:24:26 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (The new witchhunt: "Do you NOW, . . . or have you EVER , . . supported traditional marriage?")
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To: Flame Retardant

More proof we are very close to the end times. VERY close.

I’ve noticed that both a falling away and revival are discussed in the bible regarding those times. To me, it means all those fence sitters will choose a sided. You will no longer be “Christian” because you attend church. You will be Christian because you are a Christian. And your faith will increase as trials and tribulations do likewise. But probably most “Christians” will come down on the other side and be actively against the church.

Thing is, Christians are NOT changing their viewpoint on homosexual marriage. Rather those that posed as Christian are exposing their hand. It will get worse.


43 posted on 05/05/2014 8:33:43 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: lurk

I never call them gay. I call them homosexuals.


44 posted on 05/05/2014 8:34:25 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: Flame Retardant

“We are moving toward a dictatorship of relativism which does not recognize anything as for certain and which has as its highest goal one’s own ego and one’s own desires...” — Pope Benedict XVI


45 posted on 05/05/2014 8:39:43 AM PDT by crusadersoldier
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To: Flame Retardant
Religious resistance to gay marriage isn't crumbling. The issue is that religion is crumbling as a force of policy. Small-"o" orthodox religious (of any faith or denomination) are a tiny minority of the elite, and it's the elite who decide important policy questions in this country -- politics and the judiciary fall into line behind elite policy preferences sooner or later.
46 posted on 05/05/2014 8:44:10 AM PDT by only1percent
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To: Flame Retardant

It drifted that way in Sodom and Gomorrah for some years as well. Then there was some “Godlike backlash”.


47 posted on 05/05/2014 8:47:15 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: Flame Retardant
The Collapse of Anti-Gay Religion

Children should be restrained from posting puerile opinions on national forums.

Any group or organization which is not PRO-sodomy DOES NOT MAKE IT AN ANTI-GAY RELIGION.

Gheeez!

48 posted on 05/05/2014 8:53:34 AM PDT by publius911 ( At least Nixon had the good g race to resign!)
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To: Flame Retardant

How about a barf alert?


49 posted on 05/05/2014 8:53:56 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: kcvl
Huh?
Creationism is NOT compatible with science?
50 posted on 05/05/2014 8:56:10 AM PDT by publius911 ( At least Nixon had the good g race to resign!)
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To: Flame Retardant

It’s only collapsing among hellbound apostates. True Christians will never compromise God’s Word. Homosexuals and their fellow travelers will be wishing for asbestos clothing when God casts them into hell.


51 posted on 05/05/2014 8:57:28 AM PDT by afsnco
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To: SoFloFreeper
Christians who revere the BIBLE will not embrace sodomy. Period.

Even most Christians who do NOT revere the bible....

52 posted on 05/05/2014 8:59:05 AM PDT by publius911 ( At least Nixon had the good g race to resign!)
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To: Flame Retardant

You’re not responding on your own thread?


53 posted on 05/05/2014 8:59:14 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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To: Flame Retardant

Interesting terminology to describe the Great Apostasy.


54 posted on 05/05/2014 9:00:17 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Flame Retardant

My church is not anti-gay, in fact we welcome them as well as every other sinner. We only require that they live according to scripture.


55 posted on 05/05/2014 9:00:28 AM PDT by CityCenter (Resist Obamacare!)
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To: dangerdoc
As an adult I realized that things were as they have been since the world started and I doubted that the end would come in my lifetime.

If not the literal end of the world at the very least the world traditional, patriotic Americans know.

I'm almost certain we will see people persecuted and imprisoned for their politics & beliefs in the next 10 years, and it won't be for lacking "progressive" principles.

56 posted on 05/05/2014 9:02:27 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: Flame Retardant

Theology is adapting

Really?


57 posted on 05/05/2014 9:11:10 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: Flame Retardant
Throughout history, religion has sanctioned and fueled the persecution of homosexuality. That dynamic may be drawing to an end.

I don't worry that this moron is right. Instead, I worry that the pendulum will swing in the other direction, and the backlash will be violent when things swing the other way. Scripture is perfectly clear, and I have complete confidence that God will tell us clearly and unambiguously if He changes His mind.

58 posted on 05/05/2014 9:15:08 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: kcvl
This was all by design. It’s what led to Brendan Eich’s career beheading. But Eich was just the opening act. The list provides the exact names, employers, places of residence and dollar amounts of every single person in America who donated even a dime to the Golden State’s campaign to protect natural marriage (I realize it’s hopelessly symbolic, but as matter of principle I will not link to the list).

I think he should publish or link to the list for two reasons.

First I would consider it a support list.

Second, by default, every other contributor is a pro-sodomy deviant or supporter -- to be punished by default.

It's a two-edged sword.

59 posted on 05/05/2014 9:15:31 AM PDT by publius911 ( At least Nixon had the good g race to resign!)
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What does the “Theology is changing mean”? The Bible hasn’t changed. What has changed is the church. But this is nothing new. All businesses change and adapt to provide what their customers want. If tickling the ears of their parishioners keeps the collection plates jingling, then the churches will do whatever’s necessary. This includes watering down the scriptures.


60 posted on 05/05/2014 9:17:26 AM PDT by r0tten
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