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Neandertal: The Answer Is Epigenetics Not Evolution
Institute for Creation Research ^ | 5-2-2014 | Jeffrey Tomkins PhD

Posted on 05/05/2014 10:46:06 AM PDT by fishtank

Neandertal: The Answer Is Epigenetics Not Evolution

by Jeffrey Tomkins, Ph.D. *

Recent genome reports show that the Neandertals are essentially fully human, causing scientists to reclassify them as "archaic humans."1,2 But what about the apparent subtle differences in anatomy that first caused scientists to claim that Neandertals were a completely different species? It turns out that the answer can be found in epigenetics, according to newly published research.3

Epigenetics, in the more modern sense, refers to the heritable chemical changes performed by cellular machines to DNA that alter gene function without actually changing the DNA nucleotide code. In the field of genomics, it is more accurately referred to as chromatin modification. Chromatin is the stuff chromosomes are made of which consists of the DNA molecule packaged around proteins called histones. Both the DNA and the histone proteins can be chemically modified to control how genes function and are regulated along the chromosome.

...more at link.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: belongsinreligion; creation; epigenetics; evolution; idiocy; notanewstopic
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To: Reeses
Were they Democrats or Republicans?

They were almost entirely Republicans. Democrats died off quickly back then because welfare, foodstamps, and cushy government gigs hadn't been invented yet.


They were Republicans. Now that they're dead, they vote Democrat.
21 posted on 05/05/2014 12:16:27 PM PDT by Svartalfiar
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To: JimSEA
The ability to talk about archaic humans and suggesting that we are one species, means that you are making progress.

Viewing an advanced ape as your brother is not progress, it's stupidity. This is what a Neanderthal looked like:


Courtesy www.themandus.org

That's with and without the 6" ice-age fur coat. Cro Magnon (human) needles are common while nobody has ever found the first Neanderthal needle. That's because a creature with a 6" long ice-age fur coat does not NEED needles.

23 posted on 05/05/2014 12:29:20 PM PDT by varmintman
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Danny Vendramini on Youtube

Granted I do not buy the notion of Neanderthal predation driving gracile hominids into any sort of a fast process of evolution into Cro Magnon man... but his Neanderthal reconstructions are totally believable.

24 posted on 05/05/2014 12:33:00 PM PDT by varmintman
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To: varmintman

There is no evidence of a hyper violent ape as Neanderthal. In fact they didn’t eat their own instead often burying them. They had a brutal time with large game and ice age climate. Homo Erectus had the running ability we had and both used fire. They did cooperate in hunting so they communicated.


25 posted on 05/05/2014 12:45:01 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: JimSEA
In fact they didn’t eat their own...

In fact they DID eat their own and the evidence of that is overwhelming. Try doing a bit of research and then get back to me.

26 posted on 05/05/2014 12:49:50 PM PDT by varmintman
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To: varmintman

How do you know it wasn’t modern humans that dined on Neanderthals in Spain. 51,000 years isn’t beyond the time the two groups would have met.


27 posted on 05/05/2014 12:54:03 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: varmintman; SunkenCiv

Humm. Looks like a mythical “Yeti” or “Sasquatch.” And in Beowulf there was a creature, Grendal, who could be conceived of as looking like your Neanderthal example, a Troll? Modern day sightings of Neanderthal? (Modern being a relative term.)

Perhaps our ancestors were not always making up imaginary creatures to explain their fear of the dark as some superior moderns suggest. Not something you would want to run into in the dark.


28 posted on 05/05/2014 12:54:30 PM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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To: varmintman

Why the snarl, though? Looks like a threat is perceived or being made.


29 posted on 05/05/2014 1:12:47 PM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: fishtank

So much money could have been saved by simply asking Jean Auel.


30 posted on 05/05/2014 1:14:48 PM PDT by Rannug ("all enemies, foreign and domestic")
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To: varmintman

What makes you believe this guy’s theory is correct and the regular scientific world is wrong?


31 posted on 05/05/2014 1:33:11 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Tupelo

He said Pluto is not a planet.


32 posted on 05/05/2014 1:36:12 PM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: varmintman

I’m watching the video now, and the guy bizarrely claims that the other animals in their region had fur, so the Neanderthals must have had fur too. Then he shifts to Africa, where supposedly humans didn’t have fur—but all the other animals their do too.


33 posted on 05/05/2014 1:48:12 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: varmintman

And then there’s this:

http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2012/06/19/neandertals-were-monsters/


34 posted on 05/05/2014 2:00:36 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker
For the story of humans as opposed to hominids...

Humans are quasi-aquatic creatures, and never needed a fur coat. ANYTHING walking around in the European ice age needed a fur coat and, again, nobody's ever found a neanderthal needle.

35 posted on 05/05/2014 2:06:15 PM PDT by varmintman
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To: JimSEA
There is evidence of both humans and Neanderthals eating Neanderthals, but a lot more of Neanderthals eating eachother.

The basic mindset of a Neanderthal was the same as that of a lion, i.e. they viewed the living world as being neatly divided into two categories, their own family group - and meat. Rob Gargett notes that if you put the skulls of a human, a Neanderthal, and a lion together, the two which have anything in common are the Neanderthal and the lion. You'd expect behavior to follow morphology, and it does.

36 posted on 05/05/2014 2:09:39 PM PDT by varmintman
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To: varmintman

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sn/tvradio/programmes/horizon/neanderthal_prog_summary.shtml


37 posted on 05/05/2014 2:10:21 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

I kind of like this one. Lloyd Pye - Everything you know is wrong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pe6DN1OoxjE


38 posted on 05/05/2014 2:11:02 PM PDT by Patriot365
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To: Patriot365

Ha ha—two hours of crackpot theory on UFOs? I don’t think so!


39 posted on 05/05/2014 2:13:57 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker; Patriot365

The idea with Pye is to watch up to the point at which he starts talking about Sitchin and the Annunaki, and then turn it off. What he is saying about humans being ill adapted for this planet is basiclaly right, we live here only by dint of technology.


40 posted on 05/05/2014 2:23:46 PM PDT by varmintman
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