Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

China plans for North Korean regime collapse leaked
The London Telegraph ^ | May 5, 2014 | Julian Ryall in Tokyo

Posted on 05/05/2014 2:17:21 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Beijing's lack of faith in rule of Kim Jong-un exposed in contingency plans to detain key North Korean leaders, set up border refugee camps and respond to "foreign forces"

China has drawn up detailed contingency plans for the collapse of the North Korean government, suggesting that Beijing has little faith in the longevity of Kim Jong-un’s regime.

Documents drawn up by planners from China’s People’s Liberation Army that were leaked to Japanese media include proposals for detaining key North Korean leaders and the creation of refugee camps on the Chinese side of the frontier in the event of an outbreak of civil unrest in the secretive state.

The report calls for stepping up monitoring of China’s 879-mile border with North Korea.

Any senior North Korean military or political leaders who could be the target of either rival factions or another “military power,” thought to be a reference to the United States, should be given protection, the documents state....

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: china; dprk; korea; nkcollapse; northkorea
How much did it cost West Germany to assimilate East Germany into a unified whole?
1 posted on 05/05/2014 2:17:21 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

I doubt China wants to assimilate NorK. I think the want it to collapse and cause South Korea A ton of problems.


2 posted on 05/05/2014 2:19:52 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Jonty30

They would rather foist off the refugees on SK.


3 posted on 05/05/2014 2:21:47 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Jonty30

Possible but I doubt SK would have a lot of trouble. They’d just run electricity up there and build a ton of factories to put all those folks to work.

That area has rich resources, there is no reason (other than a crackpot dictator) for them to be poor and starving.


4 posted on 05/05/2014 2:22:13 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Jonty30

Believe it or not, the ROK (South Korea) and the PRC (Red China) have lots of ties and do billions of dollars in business. It’s not 1953 any more.


5 posted on 05/05/2014 2:22:54 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Blood of Tyrants

China wants South Korea in their sphere of influence, I suspect China and South Korea will become partners in dealing with the North Korea problem.


6 posted on 05/05/2014 2:23:12 PM PDT by dfwgator
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: driftdiver

I agree. The only problem I would see is rooting out the hardcore loyalists and digging up all the weaponry. The people would thrive within a few years.


7 posted on 05/05/2014 2:23:56 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

Remember, China’s ultimate rival in Asia is Japan.

There is no love lost between Koreans and Japanese, so if China can woo the Koreans to their side, it could be very interesting.


8 posted on 05/05/2014 2:24:44 PM PDT by dfwgator
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet
Yep. North Korea might not be completely trusted. North Korea's big brother is getting hungry for influence again (see Russian influences at times also in Vietnam).

As Ukraine tension flares, Russia test-fires ballistic missile
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3129501/posts

N.Korea Fires Multiple Launch Rockets
http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/3129517/posts

S. Korean Lawmaker, “Russia might have given N. Korea know-how of miniature nukes”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1717327/posts

WikiLeaks: North Korea Shipped 19 Advanced Nuclear-Capable Missiles to Tehran
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2634540/posts

North Korea Tests 'Super-EMP' Nuke
Newsmax ^ | Thursday, 16 Jun 2011 09:05 AM | Ken Timmerman
"North Korea’s nuclear tests have been dismissed as failures by some analysts because of their low explosive yield. But Dr. Pry believes they bore the “signature” of the Russian-designed “super-EMP” weapon, capable of emitting more gamma radiation than a 25-megaton nuclear weapon. "


9 posted on 05/05/2014 2:27:28 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: dfwgator
China wants South Korea in their sphere of influence, I suspect China and South Korea will become partners in dealing with the North Korea problem.

Absolutely. Who would want to be OUR partners after watching Obama and Kerry's blithering act?


10 posted on 05/05/2014 2:33:25 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: familyop


I am not worried about China, I have Dennis Rodman on my side.
11 posted on 05/05/2014 2:35:09 PM PDT by BigEdLB (Now there ARE 1,000,000 regrets - but it may be too late.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

Kim is more afraid of China than he is of the USA and Japan.

China must have spies, contacts and factions throughout the North, and Kim probably fears a pro-China general putting a bullet in his head. For its part, China does not want a nuclear armed kim regime on its border.

Beijing is 580 miles away. Los Angeles is 5600, and an ocean, away. who has more to lose?


12 posted on 05/05/2014 2:37:00 PM PDT by PGR88
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Norm Lenhart
The only problem I would see is rooting out the hardcore loyalists...

From what I have researched, 85% of NK are hardcore. Of the 15%, they are either in prison or in hiding.

13 posted on 05/05/2014 2:38:14 PM PDT by Traveler59 ( Truth is a journey, not a destination.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Traveler59

Within a decade of NorK collapse there would be zero foreign troops in UROK - maybe the US would maintain a naval station at the southern tip. China would benefit greatly, but they don’t think this way.


14 posted on 05/05/2014 2:41:39 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: Traveler59

I have an extremely hard time believing that. I could see maybe 20%...at the extreme high side being hardcore (accounting for their ‘elite/military), but no slave state in history ever had 85% of the slaves wanting to stay that way.


15 posted on 05/05/2014 2:41:49 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: Norm Lenhart

The closest thing to North Korea was Communist Albania, and when it came time, it was clear that FEW Albanians were fans of the Communist regime, it just was a matter of overcoming their fear to protest.


16 posted on 05/05/2014 2:43:06 PM PDT by dfwgator
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: dfwgator

Yup. NK is ‘designed’ to instill that fear to protest. But it cannot be bred or tortured out entirely. Human nature means an inborn need, a genetic imperative to not starve and to flee pain.

If you gave an Occutard in NYC a mansion and a Ferrari with a $5,000,000 bank acct, they would sing the praises of Wall St. With NK it would take a square meal and not much else.


17 posted on 05/05/2014 2:47:09 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: dfwgator

The trouble is the chinese and korean cultures are very different. Koreans dont have any respect for china and certaily dont trust them. This goes back centuries.


18 posted on 05/05/2014 2:51:36 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Chi-coms know the little toad is a total lunatic. They’ve been using him to nettle the U.S. They could have had him or his equally lunatic pappy and grandpappy snuffed at any time. Hopefully, they’ll take the little rat b...... out.


19 posted on 05/05/2014 3:00:40 PM PDT by driftless2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

Who will collapse first, Obama (U.S.) or Kim Jong-Un (NK), both regimes are nose diving.


20 posted on 05/05/2014 6:34:31 PM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

Bump


21 posted on 05/05/2014 7:32:51 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Resist in place.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

This whole thing is a message from Emperor Kim to his subjects, from the mandarins to the serfs, via his ally and big brother China.
The naive Americans should keep in mind that Kim just executed his Uncle in Law, a powerful politician who had objected to any reforms. And Kim was eager for reform. Then he executed, again, the one who was chosen to replace his uncle in law’s position. This would surely cause some ruckus.

Documents drawn up by planners from China’s People’s Liberation Army that were leaked to Japanese media include proposals for detaining key North Korean leaders and the creation of refugee camps on the Chinese side of the frontier in the event of an outbreak of civil unrest in the secretive state.
“Your future is not so bright, don’t do something funny my subjects(read: my mandarins). And please follow my reforms!”

Any senior North Korean military or political leaders who could be the target of either rival factions or another “military power,” thought to be a reference to the United States, should be given protection, the documents state.
“In the worst case scenario, our leaders would be safe, but you would be not, my serfs!”

According to Kyodo News, the Chinese report says key North Korean leaders should be detained in special camps where they can be monitored, but also prevented from directing further military operations or taking part in actions that could be damaging to China’s national interest.
“Kim Jong Un are great and important, the enemies would lock him up to stop him from leading our Army of the People”

The report suggests “foreign forces” could be involved in an incident that leads to the collapse of internal controls in North Korea, resulting to millions of refugees attempting to flee. The only route to safety the vast majority would have would be over the border into China.
“Millions of us refugees! Millions!”

The Chinese authorities intend to question new arrivals, determine their identities and turn away any who are considered dangerous or undesirable.
“This would not be fun”

Kim’s ultimate goal is to imitate Vietnam in its economic reforms.
From a gaijins point of view, Vietnam and China is having some important disputes against each other in the South China Sea, but deep down, the US is the ultimate enemy of both. Both sides are just playing with each other to full YOU. And they have accomplished this task, as the Obama Administration is helping Vietnam economically, to “use” it as a proxy to contain China.

From Vietnam, with love
Former Commie


22 posted on 05/06/2014 12:19:44 AM PDT by freecommie
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson