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Jay Carney: I don’t know if we’ll cooperate with the Benghazi select committee
Hot Air ^ | May 5, 2014 | Allahpundit

Posted on 05/05/2014 2:23:50 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Lot o’ strategizin’ happening today vis-a-vis the committee, and not just on the GOP side. Greg Sargent hears from a source on the Hill that Pelosi and company are trying to decide whether to boycott.

A House Dem leadership aide points out that there is precedent for such a boycott. Back in 2005, House Dem leaders declined to participate in GOP hearings into what went wrong with the Bush administration’s response to the Katrina disaster, arguing that Republicans had set up the committee in a way that ensured it would not conduct a serious probe into what happened.

The House Dem leadership aide notes that Dems are looking at their 2005 response as a possible model on how to respond to the new Benghazi committee, though no decisions have been made.

“There is deep concern in the Caucus that participation in this sham committee, like the 2005 Katrina committee, would serve to legitimize what has and by all signs will continue to be a political operation,” the Dem leadership aide tells me.

Steny Hoyer told Politico today that they haven’t decided what to do yet. I made the case for why boycotting is smart-ish in the last post; if your goal is to delegitimize the proceedings, there’s no clearer way to make that point (especially to your friends in the media, who undoubtedly share your contempt for this) than to skip it entirely. The counterargument is that the average low-information voter watching soundbites of the day’s hearings at 10 p.m. on cable either won’t know or won’t care about the boycott. All he’ll know is that Trey Gowdy is pounding the table and seems utterly convinced that there’s a cover-up, and that the witness he’s grilling seems shifty and nervous. If you’re a Dem, maybe it’s better to have people on the committee pounding the table about what a farce this all is so that the news networks have something for the “counterpoint” part of the soundbite highlight reel.

What Democrats are really trying to do right now, I think, is calculate the odds that there’s something hugely damaging out there that might be uncovered by the committee — in other words, the odds that the GOP’s been right about Benghazi all along. Looks to me like they’re 90 percent sure that this’ll be a nothingburger, but that remaining 10 percent carries a big risk. Namely, if they participate in the committee, spend three weeks screeching that it’s a sham and an insult to the president, and then a smoking gun turns up, they’ll be as humiliated as Obama is. That’s another reason to boycott, to keep their distance not only from a committee that their base finds dubious but to keep their distance from any findings that might truly hurt O. Or would their absence actually backfire by signaling to the public that they didn’t care enough to find the truth? Political actors don’t like uncertainty and Pelosi’s dealing with a lot of uncertainty right now.

Exit question for legal eagles: What would it mean for the White House to not “cooperate” with the committee? I assume that means claiming executive privilege over documents that Gowdy wants, which has worked so far in other contexts to hinder GOP investigations but would look awfully shady in this case, especially with the White House bleating that this is all much ado about nothing. Would they, or could they, refuse to send witnesses too? Even Kerry and Hillary routinely appear/appeared before Congress. It’d look suspicious if the key players suddenly clammed up now.

(VIDEO-AT-LINK)


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: benghazi; benghazicoverup; carneylies; commiebastards; congress; obama; obamalies; selectcommittee; whpresser
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1 posted on 05/05/2014 2:23:50 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Nothing but lawless scum.


2 posted on 05/05/2014 2:25:46 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
So the officials being investigated think they get to decide what is and isn’t “legitimate oversight?”

Seems like grounds for impeachment right there!

3 posted on 05/05/2014 2:26:07 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’d appreciate it more if he just honestly says: “No, we won’t cooperate at all.”


4 posted on 05/05/2014 2:27:48 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Carney, et al. = SOBS!


5 posted on 05/05/2014 2:28:12 PM PDT by Las Vegas Dave (The democRATic party preys on the ignorant..!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The W.H. refuses to be held accountable for actions


6 posted on 05/05/2014 2:28:53 PM PDT by FreedBird (t)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
When did dem's start to worry about being wrong or being humiliated? Did I miss something?

Islands tipping over?
US flag on Mars?
Keep your doctor?
Pass the bill to see what's in it?

The people that made these statements are all still in office, unashamed, unbowed.

7 posted on 05/05/2014 2:30:23 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Orange Jumpsuits come in many sizes...


8 posted on 05/05/2014 2:30:51 PM PDT by BigEdLB (Now there ARE 1,000,000 regrets - but it may be too late.)
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To: unixfox

Posturing is more important than the truth. That should be the Democrat’s motto.


9 posted on 05/05/2014 2:30:57 PM PDT by fhayek
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

every cop in the world says, “it’s only going to look bad for you if you don’t get out in front of this and tell your side of the story”. It’s typically false when they say it but let’s hope the American people get tired of the arrogance and get tired of the lies.


10 posted on 05/05/2014 2:32:50 PM PDT by thorvaldr
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To: Former Proud Canadian

Islands tipping over?
US flag on Mars?
Keep your doctor?
Pass the bill to see what’s in it?

That’s just a small sample of the idiocy that comes from these people. Can you imagine sitting down and trying to have a conversation with one of them? I’m sure the topics are extremely limited.


11 posted on 05/05/2014 2:32:59 PM PDT by mothball
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To: fhayek

The Dem motto is whatever we can get away with.


12 posted on 05/05/2014 2:33:07 PM PDT by tioga
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Fine. Let America learn once and for all that there was a coup on our gov't in 2008 and they answer to NO ONE.
13 posted on 05/05/2014 2:33:13 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The W.H. believes it is above the law.


14 posted on 05/05/2014 2:33:39 PM PDT by FreedBird (t)
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To: BenLurkin

Does Liar-Jay C. telegraph Obama’s Grand Plan to stay in Power?

Does this rise to the level of OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE, an Impeachable offense?


15 posted on 05/05/2014 2:34:02 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: fhayek

Will 0 end up pleading the 5th also!


16 posted on 05/05/2014 2:34:03 PM PDT by DocJhn
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

17 posted on 05/05/2014 2:34:18 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Stalin Blamed The Kulaks,Obama Blames The Tea Party)
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To: unixfox

Hostile witnesses are not excused because they won’t “co-operate”.

They had better be very, very careful how and when they duck behind the Fifth Amendment, and possible perjury that could arise in the course of a line of inquiry.

Because that action is very telling in and of itself.

The precedent in legal matters is very compelling.

Look what happened to Scooter Libby on a very minor matter.


18 posted on 05/05/2014 2:34:20 PM PDT by alloysteel (Selective and willful ignorance spells doom, to both victim and perpetrator - mostly the perp.)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

Bump!


19 posted on 05/05/2014 2:35:03 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Jay Carney: I don’t know if we’ll cooperate with the Benghazi select committee

Wonder if you'll cooperate after an impeachment and removal, you putz.

No seriously. I wonder if you will.

20 posted on 05/05/2014 2:35:16 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

“Fine. Let America learn once and for all that there was a coup on our gov’t in 2008 and they answer to NO ONE.”

America would have to pay attention in order to learn that lesson.


21 posted on 05/05/2014 2:35:31 PM PDT by brownsfan (Behold, the power of government cheese.)
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To: thorvaldr

Let’s hope that most Americans actually recognize the arrogance and the lies. Big Media is promoting the lies as truth.


22 posted on 05/05/2014 2:35:44 PM PDT by originalbuckeye (Moderation in temper is always a virtue; moderation in principle is always a vice. Paine)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Nothing different about this. When have they ever cooperated?


23 posted on 05/05/2014 2:35:52 PM PDT by Ingtar (The NSA - "We're the only part of government who actually listens to the people.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Of course they won’t cooperate with the Select Committee either. The ONLY reason there is a Select Committee is because the WH obstructed and didn’t cooperate with previous committees by withholding documents and evidence which had been subpoenaed.


24 posted on 05/05/2014 2:36:18 PM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I assume that means claiming executive privilege over documents that Gowdy wants, which has worked so far in other contexts to hinder GOP investigations...

I think that SCOTUS already ruled with Clinton that executive privilege is not a blanket privilege. In order for the President to invoke executive privilege, it has to be something that he was a party to, not just his aides talking to each other or aides to external agencies.

If Obama were to invoke executive privilege, it would be an admission that he was directly involved.

-PJ

25 posted on 05/05/2014 2:37:01 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

They should bring in families members of those killed at Benghazi. That would put a human face on what happened (and how they were lied to), two years ago, dude.


26 posted on 05/05/2014 2:38:03 PM PDT by fhayek
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To: Gay State Conservative
Didn't the original guy who they're caricaturing meet his end at the guillotine?
27 posted on 05/05/2014 2:38:10 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
There is something really big behind the Benghazi cover up, so big that the dims are absolutely terrified.
28 posted on 05/05/2014 2:39:58 PM PDT by old curmudgeon
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To: unixfox

Trey better watch his six. The klintoons have bodies stacked around the like so much cord wood. Then there’s obozo who recently joked that he was “good at killing people.” If Trey Gowdy turns up with three bullets in his head and it’s ruled “suicide”, there WILL be a revolution.


29 posted on 05/05/2014 2:40:35 PM PDT by Dick Bachert (Ignorance is NOT BLISS. It is the ROAD TO SERFDOM! We're on a ROAD TRIP!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They don’t comply with Congressional subpena’s at all...ever...


30 posted on 05/05/2014 2:40:49 PM PDT by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: unixfox
Nothing but lawless scum.

Blatant lawless scum. The only cure for this ill is an uprising of one kind or another.

31 posted on 05/05/2014 2:41:24 PM PDT by Jagdgewehr (It will take blood.)
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To: Servant of the Cross

The MSM decided the President does not have to do anything but spend tax money, redistribute tax money and go play golf and take vacations.


32 posted on 05/05/2014 2:41:44 PM PDT by FreedBird (t)
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To: old curmudgeon

Of course there is.

An AWOL CIC.

All Americans should fear that at any time, their duly appointed and elected officials will abandon us for any reason, including to die or be imprisoned without recourse.


33 posted on 05/05/2014 2:42:24 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: old curmudgeon

You mean the fact that this administration was funneling weapons and explosives to al Qaeda?


34 posted on 05/05/2014 2:44:19 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Carney does remind me of Jar Jar Binks these days - the one guy in the flick that everybody is fantasizing a horrible fate for. Hope Jar Jar isn’t offended by the comparison.


35 posted on 05/05/2014 2:45:35 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If the Rats do decide to attend, they will be acting as counsel for the WH and will do everything in their power to obfuscate and cover up for Obummer.


36 posted on 05/05/2014 2:45:37 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The Democrats' high-pitched "dissembling and obfuscating"
on Benghazi has a medical purpose---if they don't save
Hillary's ***....they're toast.

" C'mon guys. Gimme a break. I'm on life support, here.
If we don't save Hillary's ***, I'm looking at Ft Marcy Park."

37 posted on 05/05/2014 2:46:09 PM PDT by Liz
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
CIA Whistleblower Posts 12 Questions about Benghazi Is the United States secretly arming and supporting various factions of the Syrian Rebels with high caliber impact weapons from The United States arsenals? Is the United States little-known Direct Commercial Sales Program, also known as ʻ‘The Blue Lantern Report”, being used as a ʻ‘cutoutʼ’ to secretly aid both sides of a Middle Eastern civil war? Is America again playing both sides against the middle for corporate gain as previously demonstrated by the Cuban Project of the fifties and sixties, as well as the Iran Contra fiasco of the eighties and the South American—Mexican Drug Wars of the nineties?It has been established via some field reports from the Middle East and some isolated media reports that the Direct Commercial Sales Program (DCSP), an American international program, which legally allows the United States to sell weapons to a host of foreign countries without monitoring those weapons after leaving our arsenals, stockpiles, and jurisdiction, has shipped High Impact weapons to Syrian Rebels during the last two years. I have to ask. What happens to those weapons after legally being sold via this program and they leave our control? Are they being monitored, traced, certified, and inventoried after arriving in other countries? Will our troops one day again face these American-made weapons on some foreign battlefield? Is this Direct Commercial Sales program a secret cash cow for many US Corporations, International arms merchants, its insiders, or affiliates? Is it possible this could be another ʻ‘off-‐‑the-‐‑booksʼ’ secret covert operation ran by the CIA’s Special Tactical Unit, similar to the Iran‑Contra operations of the eighties and the old Cuban projects of the fifties and sixties, where we supplied both sides weapons and escalated the conflict for personal and corporate gain? Could we be selling and supplying dangerous high impact weapons, while aiding and financing both sides of a Civil War in Syria? Could we be escalating the Middle East conflict either knowingly or unintentionally providing weapons to both sides of the Syrian conflict? These are simple questions. I’m just asking: Did our Ambassador and others, weeks before they were murdered, notify our State Department and CIA that Syrian Rebels had obtained US Weapons, including “Stinger missiles’ from Jordan, Turkey, Pakistan, shipped from CIA safe houses? Were they told to “Stand Down”?
38 posted on 05/05/2014 2:46:39 PM PDT by Andy from Chapel Hill
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To: Andy from Chapel Hill

Apologies for the lack of paragraph indents!


39 posted on 05/05/2014 2:47:14 PM PDT by Andy from Chapel Hill
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To: All
MURDER IN BENGHAZI--brought to you by Obama's braindead NSA advisers and Hillary's all-girl State Dept team.

As Susan Rice and Tommy Vietor amply demonstrated, Obama's national security team is surpassed in braindeadness only by Hillary's all-girl State Dept team.

Mmmmmm....when the national security team couples w/ the State Dept team at "meet and greet" night, NSA advisor Tommy-boy gets his pick of the State Dept chicks. Luckily he's still got the press van he used to drive w/ a learner's permit....his first job w/ Obama, before he was given US ntl security clearance.

Little Tommy’s interview with Brett Baier on what happened the night of the attack on Benghazi went viral, and has aroused strong reactions. Americans are creeped out by the these White House responses in a way that goes beyond the dearth of facts.

It’s like an inside joke they don't even bother to conceal.

Those wonderful "transparent" Obama years are pock- marked w/ his obstinante refusal to disclose even information not usually regarded as sensitive or even private. He wont even answer questions like ‘where were you born’, ‘what were your grades in college’......

..... and ‘what was the president doing on the night a US ambassador was being murdered’ has been dribbled out so reluctantly that the blowback is fierce. The braindead insiders, themselves, dont seem to know they have created a mystery where there shouldn’t be one.

40 posted on 05/05/2014 2:47:18 PM PDT by Liz
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41 posted on 05/05/2014 2:48:46 PM PDT by Liz
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

For once, Boehner did the right thing by appointing a select committee. Now, he should double down and state publicly that any attempt to stonewall the committee will result in Obama being held directly accountable through the impeachment process, with the definition of ‘stonewalling’ being the exclusive right of Congressman Gowdy.


42 posted on 05/05/2014 2:49:19 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg ("Compromise" means you've already decided you lost.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Is this satire? I didn’t see John Semmens mentioned. SERIOUSLY?


43 posted on 05/05/2014 2:51:18 PM PDT by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Oh....RREEEALLLLYYYYY???????


44 posted on 05/05/2014 2:55:10 PM PDT by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think it is even bigger than that, although I think that is part of it.

Just look at the lengths to which they have gone to hide the facts and the risks they are taking; the risks being the consequences of the facts becoming known and being liable criminally for lying in order to hide the facts.

As someone posted above, look what happened to Scooter Libby.

And Martha Stewart.

There has to be something big for the dims to be so afraid.


45 posted on 05/05/2014 3:00:39 PM PDT by old curmudgeon
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To: Colonel_Flagg

Gowdy is pro amnesty, so, as a congressman he isn’t doing well around here.

As a lawyer, he is fierce. He has talent, and has lost only one case in his career. He is not Issa. If he pisses off Elijah, he’ll finish the job.

He is probably rubbing his hands together, rolling up his sleeves, just for the work and the challenge. And if he’s really smart, he’ll sequester his family.

He will research this and won’t sit around smoking cigars slapping people.

If he’s persuadable, that’ll be a problem.

He won’t turn into a 4-year old, such a common sight, on being insulted by the press, SNL, or those nasty lobbyists from the C of C.

It might be very interesting.


46 posted on 05/05/2014 3:03:49 PM PDT by stanne
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

How dare anyone question the mac daddy administration, we have been noting but truthful to the American people.


47 posted on 05/05/2014 3:06:28 PM PDT by chiefqc
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; old curmudgeon
You mean the fact that this administration was funneling weapons and explosives to al Qaeda?>

Two words -- Iran-Contra -- and any threat from that quarter is over and done with.

There is something else-- something far more serious -- driving this cover-up. Personally, I'm thinking it might've been a planned kidnapping of an American Ambassador, morphing into a swap for the Blind Sheikh immediately prior to the election.

But, when the Ambassador turned up dead, "the video did it" became Plan B.

48 posted on 05/05/2014 3:06:51 PM PDT by okie01
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To: fhayek

It’s not about the families. They were diplomats, not tourists.

The pundits are constantly swaying this to the four dead americans thing.

THe only reason this won’t go away is because it is an international incident. It is no different from what happened in 1979 in Iran. The numbers are different. That’s it.

I said it on 11 sept 2012, the administration cannot wish this away. our enemies and allies are watching our reaction to this, and it is anti American that the Administration and it’s State Dept don’t care enough about the embassy people to do anything about this.

That’s why it won’t go away.


49 posted on 05/05/2014 3:07:55 PM PDT by stanne
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To: stanne
Yep. Since about the 17th century violence to a diplomat is a formal casus belli. It isn't going away.
50 posted on 05/05/2014 3:11:06 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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