Skip to comments.Bring the Guillotine Back to Death Row
Posted on 05/05/2014 7:14:23 PM PDT by grundle
A quick, painless, gruesome way to carry out capital punishment
If I were governor of a state that executed prisoners I'd declare a moratorium for my entire tenure. I wish that the United States would stop imposing the death penalty. I nevertheless find myself nodding along to Sonny Bunch's case for reintroducing the guillotine, a response to the botched execution of a death-row inmate in Oklahoma.
He argues that America has made its executions bloodless to protect the sensibilities of those who support the death penalty, with less humane killings as a result. (The electric chair. The gas chamber. Lethal injections. All have had horrific problems.)
"The guillotine really seems to solve everyones problems: It was designed to deliver an efficient, quick, and painless death. It performs that task admirably. I understand the irony of a reactionary such as myself embracing the Terrors preferred method of execution, but one must give credit where its due."
"If were going to do somethingand a large number of Americans and American states are pretty committed to performing executionswe ought to do it right. And right in this case means a quick and painless death. I cant really imagine any reasonable objections to a widespread adoption of the guillotine."
I can imagine one objection: that the guillotine is barbaric.
But to me, that's a point in its favor. Let's have no illusions about what we're doing when the state carries out the killing of captive prisoners. I imagine support for the death penalty would decline rather quickly once heads started rolling.
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It is actually a pretty painless way to go.
...and it makes great julian fries when not in use.
I didn’t know they ever used it here.
Kind of hard to botch an execution with a guillotine...
But it can be done.... There is no 100% surefire way.
(The electric chair. The gas chamber. Lethal injections. All have had horrific problems.)
I dunno, firing squads and hanging worked pretty well.
Personally, I’d just as soon see them sentenced to death and then turned over to the family and friends of the murder victim.
"How could you miss?"
"Shut up! Go and practice."
IMO they should reinstate the guillotine and auction off the rights to pull the cord. It would go a long way toward reducing both recidivism and the debt.
The constitution prohibits cruel and unusual punishment, it does not guarantee a painless execution.
Strap the condemned down
put on a brain wave monitor
put on a breathing mask
apply 1.1 atmospheres of 99% pure nitrogen
Condemned passes out painlessly
wait till the brain waves go flat
Fly them over an active volcano and kick their ass out.
If I were sentenced to death, I’d choose firing squad.
Firing squads can miss. Hanging actually requires careful mathemateics to ensure you quickly break the condemned's knock without decapitating him.
The guillotine was one of the few inventions the French got right. Quick, painless, physician not needed to determine death has occurred.
If hanging was good enough for the Nazis at Nuremburg, then it should be good enough today.
I think too, a few people have survived hangings.
I think it might have been old West justice, if you survived a hanging, you were free to go.
I bought a little plastic model guillotine, Revell, Aurora? ‘Chamber of Horrors’. Little guy, you could stand him up, slide him over to the blade, raise the blade, strike off his little head. Of course the real fun was sniffing that Testor’s glue and paint ...
A condemned prisoner in Utah chose firing squad over lethal injection in 2010.
Not so much, as there is evidence that the brain still functins for several minutes after decapatation.
I kinda like the way the Romans did it, you know four horses, four limbs.
Of course burning at the stake is not a lot of fun either.
"Soldiers! Do your duty! Straight to the heart but spare the face. Fire!"
Not if you give all the shooters several rounds and semi-auto rifles. Hanging actually requires careful mathemateics to ensure you quickly break the condemned's knock without decapitating him.
Hell with that, just kick the chair out from under them and walk away.
OK, but in Ill-Annoy we have to get the death penalty back first.
I had one of those ;’)
It wasn't "botched", he is dead; it was successful.
The drunkard comes to the guillotine next. He also decides to die face up, hoping that he will be as fortunate as the priest. They raise the blade of the guillotine and release it. It comes speeding down and suddenly stops just inches from his neck. Again, the authorities take this as a sign of divine intervention, and they release the drunkard as well.
Next is the engineer. He, too, decides to die facing up. As they slowly raise the blade of the guillotine, the engineer suddenly says, "Hey, I see what your problem is ..."
I don’t see why a massive overdose of pure heroin is out of the question.
But the liberals don’t want efficient executions - then they’d have nothing to denounce as “barbaric”.
I’ve always favored doing executions during the Super bowl half time. Using the gillotine would be perfect. Line them up and do multiple executions like the hangings of old. Hold a national lottery for choosing executioners. Winner would also get to chose the background music.
Looks like all the shooters in your Firing Squad pic are using different guns! LOL.
Shotgun blast at the base of the skull upwards into the brainpan. Guaranteed instant death.
And in 1976, in UTAH!
Energy-efficient. Dems should love that. And, no heavy-metals cleanup issues.
Bring it to Capital Hill, park it right outside the Capital entrance one day, then over to the Senate Office building one day, then over to the House Office building......
“I bought a little plastic model guillotine, Revell, Aurora? Chamber of Horrors. Little guy, you could stand him up, slide him over to the blade, raise the blade, strike off his little head. Of course the real fun was sniffing that Testors glue and paint ...”
I had a friend with one of these, his mom did a GREAT job of painting it. Definitely not PC these days...it’s probably worth four figures built or unbuilt.
“Shoot straight you bastards, don’t make a mess of it.” - Breaker Morant
And the Phantom of the Opera, and Frankenstein’s monster too?
As the oldest, of course I scared my siblings at times but these things kept them out of my room!
There are better and more effective methods of capital punishment. If William Wallace can die in the following way, so can thugs in America. Walace was stripped naked and dragged through the city at the heels of a horse to the Elms at Smithfield. He was hanged, drawn and quartered strangled by hanging, but released while he was still alive, emasculated, eviscerated and his bowels burnt before him, beheaded, then cut into four parts. His preserved head (dipped in tar) was placed on a pike.
Afraid I blew them up with fireworks, just before I discovered girls. ;^)
In a just world, yes. But there's that whole "cruel and unusual" thing in the way.
But of course!
I was also a big Charles Addams fan which I’m sure distressed my mom. My sense of humor was forever warped but I turned out otherwise alright (I think).
Interesting. I can hear him say “strite.”
However they did executions at time of the signing of the Constitution ought to still be valid today.
How would you know?
From the time the head is chopped off and the carotid arteries are severed until the time the brain loses all blood and then loses consciousness could be five seconds. Those must be pretty painful and unpleasant seconds.
I just think it's too much of a disgusting mess. Do you have any idea how much of a mess cutting off someone's head makes? Who's supposed to clean that up?
Also, there is too much association with the horrors of the French Revolution, an historical disaster from which we are still recovering (if indeed we ever do). Bullets are cheaper, faster, and less messy. No need for fancy equipment.
But who is going to clean up the mess?
Murat was so unbelievably vain. He just could not get over how pretty he was.
Beheading sounds so ..... mooslum.
Hanging (when done by an expert as it was in England during the 20th Century) is incredibly quick and unlikely to go wrong. There are horror stories associated with hangings, but they tended to involve situations where the executioner was not a professional.
Man who survived a firing squad.
Garrote seems like it gets the job done without the blood mess.
Wallace was not unique in experiencing that form of execution. That was the typical traitor’s death. For a long time there was a saying in England that “if you did not have an ancestor quartered, you are not a gentleman.” Which is to say that the ordinary footsoldier in the armies of any rebellion would not receive such an elaborate execution; only rebellious nobles and other ringleaders of insurrection would be treated this way.
I recall reading of one man executed for religious reasons. He was permitted to die by hanging, but the rope broke. As the executioner organized a fresh rope, the condemned man ran back up the steps of the gallows. He was asked why he hastened to die, and he replied eagerly, “If you had seen what I saw as I was hanging, you would want to die, too.” Or words to that effect. I think he was an English Catholic martyr. Perhaps another Freeper recalls the name of the dead man and has a more accurate account.
^Also make sure brats who like to cause trouble watch to make it clear where they are headed if they keep messing with the law.