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The Numbers Donít Lie: Jeb Canít Win
Yahoo News via Daily Beast ^ | 05/05/2014 | By Michael Tomasky

Posted on 05/05/2014 7:28:48 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

As we know, the search for an “establishment” candidate has been on in the GOP for a while now, a savior who can rescue the party from Rand Paul or Ted Cruz. That man, of course, is Jeb Bush. Last week on Hardball, Kathleen Parker said he is definitely running. She’s a conservative columnist but not a wacko, has establishment GOP credentials and Florida ties to boot. And she spoke with the air of someone who had had this nugget leaked to her specifically so that she would go out on national TV and blurt it out.

So take the idea of a Bush candidacy seriously. He’ll get many of the biggest donors and most plugged-in operatives, and he’ll immediately be spoken of by the media as a, if not the, GOP frontrunner.

So far, so normal. But here’s where things get interesting. Historically, “establishment” in this context also basically means “most formidable” and “most electable.” Look at the track record. Mitt Romney was the establishment candidate in 2012, John McCain in 2008, Jeb’s brother in 2000. Two of these three never became president, but there’s no doubt that all three were the best the GOP had to offer in their given years. Who would have run better than McCain in 2008? Maybe, possibly Romney himself. But not Mike Huckabee or Ron Paul. And 2012’s lineup besides Romney was comic relief. Any one of them couldn’t have topped 200 electoral votes. And Dubya, of course, won. (Well, “won,” but that’s a different column.)

It’s an iron law of presidential politics: The establishment candidate is, almost by definition, the most formidable candidate. Well, I guess iron ain’t what it used to be, because here’s the funny thing: Jeb Bush is not any stronger against Hillary Clinton

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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1 posted on 05/05/2014 7:28:48 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
I am cool with the thesis, Jeb Bush will not win.

HOWEVER

This is The Daily Beast (Newsweak) by way of Yahoo News... *THE* two most biased internet propaganda sites for the left out there.

2 posted on 05/05/2014 7:30:39 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“And 2012’s lineup besides Romney was comic relief. “

You know, GOPe is amenable to a conservative winning. But you have to admit, the 2012 challengers to Romney were jokes.


3 posted on 05/05/2014 7:32:38 PM PDT by staytrue
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To: SeekAndFind
All the more reason for the GOPe to nominate him.
4 posted on 05/05/2014 7:32:49 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: Lazamataz

He’s not supposed to win, that’s the only way the ruling class can maintain their membership in the club.


5 posted on 05/05/2014 7:33:36 PM PDT by eyeamok
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To: SeekAndFind

He can’t win? he’s the prefect GOPe pick!

They almost always pick the loser.


6 posted on 05/05/2014 7:33:36 PM PDT by cableguymn (It's time for a second political party.)
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To: SeekAndFind

George Will today on Fox Special Report stated that the Republican nominee will NOT be a supporter of Common Core.
Bret Baeir then said, “Jeb Bush supports common core”
Will says, “Correct”


7 posted on 05/05/2014 7:33:37 PM PDT by dontreadthis
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To: SeekAndFind

Its the wrong question. The question is why would I even care if he could? He is another Obama, only dressed in more patriotic bunting, white, and with a different dialect.
The window dressing issues will be different, but essentially, he’s no different.


8 posted on 05/05/2014 7:35:52 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: eyeamok

He is a nerd. He is like his “establishment” daddy and grand daddy. We invaded the wrong damned country— Saudis attacked us — not Shiites in Iraq. What a joke.


9 posted on 05/05/2014 7:39:06 PM PDT by SADMILLIE
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To: staytrue

you have to admit, Romney was the biggest joke...


10 posted on 05/05/2014 7:41:11 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: eyeamok

Win? THE GOP?
Yeah, all that matters to the GOP-e is that they cock-block a viable conservative candidate.
We didn’t even get to vote in 2008 here in IN before Juan McCain was ensconced as the designated GOP looser to BamBam’s ‘Hope&Change’ BS. Then Mittens. Next, that fat youngest brother? No thanks!
If the GOP don’t want to run to win, they can KMA and loose without my help.


11 posted on 05/05/2014 7:42:11 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: SeekAndFind

A close relative of Jeb’s said I should “Get behind Jeb”. I told him after what Jeb said about invaders’ “act of love” I couldn’t.

I told him that Jeb saying that was a calculated way of calling those who oppose amnesty hard hearted and an attempt to make us feel guilty about our position. He didn’t seem surprised or put off by my assertion.


12 posted on 05/05/2014 7:47:07 PM PDT by raybbr (Obamacare needs a death panel.)
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To: SeekAndFind

He has very little support.

The GOP has no one to run. Not anyone.

That, along with Boehner’s appointing Gowdy as special prosecutor, spells out the non testosterone surrender.

To me.


13 posted on 05/05/2014 7:47:13 PM PDT by stanne
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To: SeekAndFind

If ultra-far-left Michael Tomasky likes what Kathleen Parker has to say, what does that tell the rest of us?


14 posted on 05/05/2014 7:48:22 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: dontreadthis

Even George Will sees it?


15 posted on 05/05/2014 7:49:14 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Mrs. Tomasky’s little Mickey just wet his pants again.


16 posted on 05/05/2014 7:50:00 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Obama's smidgens are coming home to roost.)
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To: tumblindice

“all that matters to the GOP-e is that they cock-block a viable conservative candidate.”

Which one was that ? Fred Thompson in 08 or Newt in 12 ?


17 posted on 05/05/2014 7:54:14 PM PDT by staytrue
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Will is likely looking for a Governor, other than Christie


18 posted on 05/05/2014 7:55:42 PM PDT by dontreadthis
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To: stanne

“The GOP has no one to run. Not anyone.”

You guys are all the same. Bash Bush but can’t come up with any viable alternative.


19 posted on 05/05/2014 7:55:48 PM PDT by staytrue
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To: SADMILLIE

True. I supported Bush’s war against Iraq, because I thought he did it in order to secure an oil supply. Once we had that, then we could take on the Saudis, the chief backers of 9/11. If they blew up their oil rigs before we won that war, then the Iraqi oil would keep us supplied until we repaired the Saudi rigs.

Bush’s initial handling of the war on Saddam, and the military leaders he chose (working around the clintonoid leaders in the Pentagon) was very well done. But then things started going down hill, and it gradually became apparent that Bush had no intention of dealing with the real terrorists and their Saudi sponsors.

Then Bush ended up giving the Iraqi oil to France and China. All that blood, sweat, and tax money was wasted, in the end, after what looked like a successful start.


20 posted on 05/05/2014 7:57:24 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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