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Bill banning state Confederate flag sales passes
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | May 5, 2014 | FENIT NIRAPPIL

Posted on 05/05/2014 7:31:49 PM PDT by artichokegrower

SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) — California state government departments will be prohibited from selling or displaying items with an image of the Confederate flag under a bill that passed the Assembly on Monday.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: California
KEYWORDS: confederacy; confederate; dixie
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Like is this a big issue in California where it needs a special law? Glad those legislators in Sacramento aren't wasting their time on nonsensical laws
1 posted on 05/05/2014 7:31:49 PM PDT by artichokegrower
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To: artichokegrower

Guess they will have to do what all communists countries do....excise the history books.


2 posted on 05/05/2014 7:33:20 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: artichokegrower

So how many California state government offices were selling things with the confederate flag on them?


3 posted on 05/05/2014 7:34:28 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: artichokegrower

A bit inconsistent, when they’re turning the state budget into Confederate money.


4 posted on 05/05/2014 7:34:32 PM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: artichokegrower

yeah cause when i’m thinking of buying a confederate flag I go right to California state government departments.


5 posted on 05/05/2014 7:34:36 PM PDT by jtal (Runnin' a World in Need with White Folks' Greed - since 1492)
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To: artichokegrower

I have them for sale. That is my family they are trying to ban.. Won’t work! I can print them by the thousands.


6 posted on 05/05/2014 7:35:25 PM PDT by SADMILLIE
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To: artichokegrower

Next it will be illegal to have a Confederate flag inside a private home.


7 posted on 05/05/2014 7:35:44 PM PDT by uncitizen
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To: Nifster

Good point, I guess that history textbooks will have to excise the section on the Civil War.


8 posted on 05/05/2014 7:37:03 PM PDT by jtal (Runnin' a World in Need with White Folks' Greed - since 1492)
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To: artichokegrower

Every problem is solved by the government. (Sarc) Maybe one day faggot, fruit and nuts rainbow flags will be outlawed.


9 posted on 05/05/2014 7:37:25 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (We need to fundamentally transform RATs lives for their lies.)
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To: artichokegrower

Which Confederate Flag?


10 posted on 05/05/2014 7:39:09 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: artichokegrower

1st amendment and stoopit....


11 posted on 05/05/2014 7:39:48 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: artichokegrower

But they fly Mexican flags all over...


12 posted on 05/05/2014 7:39:59 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: artichokegrower

Can’t fly The Stars and bars but the Mexican flag is okay.


13 posted on 05/05/2014 7:40:36 PM PDT by jmacusa
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To: artichokegrower

Well, there was an attempt in Southern California to secede and join the Confederacy. It’s part of the history of California, although I sincerely doubt many there know this.


14 posted on 05/05/2014 7:40:53 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: jtal

ROFLMAO!
I prefer to buy them in Mississippi where all my cousins still live....


15 posted on 05/05/2014 7:41:36 PM PDT by magna carta
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To: artichokegrower
AB2444 by Assemblyman Isadore Hall, D-Compton, is headed to the Senate after passing on a 72-1 vote. Hall introduced the bill after his mother saw replica Confederate money being sold at the state Capitol gift shop, which no longer stocks the item.

Maybe it's just me but it sorta strikes me that an assemblyman from Compton has bigger things to worry about than replica Confederate money. Otoh, maybe the gang bangers and dope dealers which invest the Compton area will put down their guns when they hear about this.

16 posted on 05/05/2014 7:43:05 PM PDT by Robwin
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To: artichokegrower

Precisely what I was thinking. Perhaps we should send them a gift package for their efforts. Tiddlywinks comes to mind.


17 posted on 05/05/2014 7:46:29 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: artichokegrower

Yes, CA; wave that rainbow flag!


18 posted on 05/05/2014 7:47:14 PM PDT by celmak
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To: Nifster

The Great State of Californication is one BIG F’N JOKE!

Banning the US Flag is next. Mexishit flag is OK.


19 posted on 05/05/2014 7:47:25 PM PDT by wetgundog (" Extremism in the Defense of Liberty is no Vice")
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To: artichokegrower

Flags from all the communist nations will still be available though as will Che Guevara T-Shirts. They’re big sellers in Caulifornya.


20 posted on 05/05/2014 7:47:33 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Obama's smidgens are coming home to roost.)
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To: artichokegrower

Precisely what I was thinking. Perhaps we should send them a gift package for their efforts. Tiddlywinks comes to mind.


21 posted on 05/05/2014 7:47:45 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: RegulatorCountry

RegulatorCountry wrote:

Well,there was an attempt in Southern California to secede and join the Confederacy. It’s part of the history of California,although I sincerely doubt many there know this.

They shoulda.

SOUTHERN California. ;)

(OK, gotta have link!!)


22 posted on 05/05/2014 7:49:10 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: SADMILLIE
I've seen a couple something like this here in Michigan. Lots of southerners here in the southeast. Its got a Confederate battle flag AND a gun.

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23 posted on 05/05/2014 7:49:55 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: artichokegrower

And they are banning the moniker of the Democrat Party’s history to boot!


24 posted on 05/05/2014 7:50:58 PM PDT by celmak
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To: WildHighlander57

Here’s one of the first ones that pop up in a web search, seems reasonably fair and thorough:

http://www.kcet.org/updaily/socal_focus/history/32239-how-southern-california-tried-to-split-from-the-north.html


25 posted on 05/05/2014 7:51:55 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: jtal

And current state flags as well


26 posted on 05/05/2014 7:53:17 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: artichokegrower

It’s real hard work coming up with these cutting edge solutions to the big issues, like the confederate flag issue and all the drive by shootings by the KKK and radical racist conservatives...We must stop them!

This is why politicians in CA and their legislator partners are mostly wealthy and have big fat guarded mansions and new Mercedes and game show jackpot style retirement pensions...It’s hard work banning flags and symbols which offend the bed-wetting community and drooling diaper wearing deviates


27 posted on 05/05/2014 7:56:57 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Robwin

No, it’s not just you. Imaginary problems are far easier to solve. Especially true when the solutions are as nonsensical as the contrived issues.


28 posted on 05/05/2014 7:58:51 PM PDT by Jagdgewehr (It will take blood.)
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To: wetgundog

Message for you. Just click on my user name.


29 posted on 05/05/2014 8:00:01 PM PDT by Sivad (NorCal red turf)
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To: artichokegrower

Their preferred symbol is the hammer and sickle.


30 posted on 05/05/2014 8:01:28 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: artichokegrower

Seems like a law that denies the First Amendment.


31 posted on 05/05/2014 8:01:45 PM PDT by BuffaloJack (Government by Gun Point.)
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To: cripplecreek

Don’t they have something better to do like forcing taxpayers to foot the bill for contraceptives for gay couples?


32 posted on 05/05/2014 8:02:09 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: artichokegrower

Why not get rid of the Stars and Bars, hell, they’re getting rid of the Stars and Stripes too.

I WANT MY COUNTRY BACK!


33 posted on 05/05/2014 8:03:26 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: cripplecreek

I’m guessing that in Kali, there was probably some program to promote the movie industry, and “General Lee” trinkets, with the stars and bars, were probably provided by somebody connected to the film promotion biz, as well as in-the-pocket pols.


34 posted on 05/05/2014 8:07:31 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: artichokegrower

One Senator’s mommy gets a mildly bad feeling when she sees an image, and the state must ban them all in all of their shops. Amazing.


35 posted on 05/05/2014 8:12:07 PM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: Repeal The 17th

Good point. I’ll bet most of these ignoramuses don’t know there are multiple versions besides the St. Andrew’s Cross. So are they going to ban bagpipes next?


36 posted on 05/05/2014 8:12:35 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Vigilanteman

What picture or symbol is next to be banned?

The hammer and sickle? swastika? The Gadsden flag? The Jolly Rodger flag?

Will the government penalties, fines and jail time included reeducation camps?


37 posted on 05/05/2014 8:16:01 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: cripplecreek
So how many California state government offices were selling things with the confederate flag on them?

Most civil war history books have pictures of the Confederate flag on the cover and lots of pictures of the flag between the covers.

Maybe we'll just have to ban history books.

38 posted on 05/05/2014 8:18:32 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: uncitizen

Doubtful.


39 posted on 05/05/2014 8:18:54 PM PDT by x_plus_one (Islam Delenda Est)
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To: P-Marlowe

They’re talking about getting rid of the actual physical books in the University of Michigan libraries and going to an all electronic format. I think its a really bad idea.


40 posted on 05/05/2014 8:20:52 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: RegulatorCountry
Are you someone who thinks there are no historical connections between the Confederacy and California? Did you know the Great Seal of the State of California was designed by Robert S. Garnett while in the US Army at the Presidio? He left California to join the Confederacy in his native Virginia, and was the first General Officer killed on either side - 13 July 1861.

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~caudc/

41 posted on 05/05/2014 8:22:00 PM PDT by x_plus_one (Islam Delenda Est)
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To: Repeal The 17th
"... Which Confederate Flag? ..."
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Good question.
The text of the bill should be interesting.

Flags of the Confederacy:

The First National Confederate Flag


The Second National Confederate Flag (Stainless Banner)


The Third National Confederate Flag


The Army of Northern Virginia Flag


The Bonnie Blue Flag

42 posted on 05/05/2014 8:22:45 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: x_plus_one

I’m not certain why your reply was directed to me. I provided a link detailing an attempted secession to join the Confederacy in Southern California.


43 posted on 05/05/2014 8:27:02 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Robwin

Good catch. I suspect he know that the war-zone known a Compton keeps him in office.


44 posted on 05/05/2014 8:34:41 PM PDT by matt04
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To: artichokegrower

How about the sale of THE MEXICAN FLAG?


45 posted on 05/05/2014 8:38:59 PM PDT by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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To: BuffaloJack

No, it just forbids the state government and its agencies from selling anything with an image of a Confederate flag (presumably meaning the Confederate battle flag that seem to exercise so many on the left). Private persons in California will still be able to sell and display the Flag of the Army of Northern Virginia (or C.S.A. Naval Jack, if you prefer).

The main effects of the silly law will be that no agency of the State of California will be able to sell posters with the flags of all the states, or lithographs of Civil War battle scenes in which the southern forces are displaying their battle flags.


46 posted on 05/05/2014 8:48:40 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: cripplecreek

“So how many California state government offices were selling things with the confederate flag on them?”

Yeah, the Confederacy was such a big part of California History, so sales must be huge!


47 posted on 05/05/2014 8:54:28 PM PDT by vette6387
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“Maybe it’s just me but it sorta strikes me that an assemblyman from Compton has bigger things to worry about than replica Confederate money. Otoh, maybe the gang bangers and dope dealers which invest the Compton area will put down their guns when they hear about this. “

Ole Ike be a “Holder’s Person,” so it only makes sense. He probably moved here from Mississippi to run for office and “take up the cause of “The Confederacy in California.” Clearly a “gut issue” in Compton, a town where white folks don’t ever go if they are smart. I fact, the Mexicans are probably persona non grata too!


48 posted on 05/05/2014 8:59:22 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: The_Reader_David
it just forbids the state government and its agencies from selling anything with an image of a Confederate flag...Private persons in California will still be able to sell and display the Flag

So they'll stop right there and not pursue additional regulation?

49 posted on 05/05/2014 9:08:32 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

If they extend it beyond what the state government and its agencies may do, it becomes a violation of the First and Fourteenth Amendments. As written, the law is not, contrary to the claim in the post to which I replied.

As I noted, it is a stupid bill, and its enactment would chiefly have the effects I pointed out in my prior post.


50 posted on 05/05/2014 9:12:29 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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