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‘Botched’ Oklahoma Execution Proves It’s Time to Bring Back the Guillotine
freebeacon.com ^ | April 30, 2014 | Sonny Bunch

Posted on 05/05/2014 7:44:37 PM PDT by grundle

Last night, Oklahoma was scheduled to execute two individuals. The second execution was to be of a man who raped and murdered an 11-month-old girl. That execution never took place because the first execution—that of a man who was involved in the murder and burial alive of a 19-year-old woman who walked in on a robbery—ran into some difficulties. The state was using a new lethal injection cocktail and, it seems, the poor murderer suffered a bit before expiring of a heart attack.

So how do we minimize suffering of the condemned? Our biggest problem as a society is that we have decided bloodlessness is a suitable stand-in for lack of suffering (and a way to protect the sensibilities of those who support the death penalty). Well, the pursuit of a bloodless execution seems to have backfired pretty badly here. And there’s evidence that previous lethal injection cocktails weren’t much better. Allow me to propose a rather radical alternative: the guillotine.

the guillotine really seems to solve everyone’s problems: It was designed to deliver an efficient, quick, and painless death. It performs that task admirably.

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1 posted on 05/05/2014 7:44:37 PM PDT by grundle
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To: grundle

A rope is fine.


2 posted on 05/05/2014 7:49:20 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: grundle

This guy has been reading my posts.


3 posted on 05/05/2014 7:51:53 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: grundle
Hate to state the obvious, but you can't "Bring Back the Guillotine" because America never used it in the first place.

Hanging seems to have the longest tradition and is also fairly painless if you have a hangman who knows what she or he's doing. We can hire them from Singapore until then.

The idea of an assembled audience also has some appeal, as well as singing hymns just to p*ss off the ACLU. Leaving them swinging for a half hour or so also provides a powerful object lesson to wanna be capital criminals. Plus we're not dependent on getting execution drugs from squeamish European suppliers.

Utah used to give them a choice of firing squad or hanging. Sounds reasonable enough to me and far less controversial.

4 posted on 05/05/2014 7:52:00 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: grundle

Karma is a beotch scumbag...... guess a little suffering for someone who buried a girl alive.....


5 posted on 05/05/2014 7:52:47 PM PDT by Hogblog
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To: grundle

Why guillotine?

Who’s going to clean up the mess?


6 posted on 05/05/2014 7:55:46 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: grundle

Human sized microtoner with lemon juice sprayer and greased input chute.


7 posted on 05/05/2014 7:56:17 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: grundle
Botched execution? Botched reporting!

His IV blew out. Happens all the time to live folks in hospitals. You don't like it, but you don't normally consider botched medical care. You consider it bad luck, at least the first time. Or you say you have bad veins. IV drug users will tend to have bad veins. They probably deserve more than their statistical share of death sentences. Should they be immune because of their past bad habits? I doubt blowing their own veins ever stopped them from shooting up.

When the perp's IV blew out they stopped the execution rather than start another IV. Then God killed him anyway. Then the perp's suffering really started! It all went according to the big plan.

8 posted on 05/05/2014 8:00:32 PM PDT by JohnBovenmyer (Obama been Liberal. Hope Change!)
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To: grundle

I always considered the firing squad as the most honorable way to go tho I guess a lot of those guys don’t deserve anything honorable.

Still it should be effective.


9 posted on 05/05/2014 8:04:49 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: grundle

I think we can get the criminal-loving commie libs off our backs if we refer to these events as a euthanization and stop using the word execution. The commie libs love euthanasia.


10 posted on 05/05/2014 8:04:52 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Obama's smidgens are coming home to roost.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

I hadn’t thought of that. Just call them, extremely late abortions and they will be wanting one for everybody.

Well everyone except themselves.


11 posted on 05/05/2014 8:16:50 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: grundle

The cheapest, most cost effective, and almost guaranteed to succeed method is the firing squad. It eliminates a lot of appeals based on more complicated and expensive means; is very quick; and certainly assured.

There are no dangerous gases, no big electrical bills, and no unexpected suffering on the part of the condemned. And every prison is equipped with everything needed right now.


12 posted on 05/05/2014 8:23:10 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (WoT News: Rantburg.com)
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To: grundle

The punishment should fit the crime. We should care as much about the killer’s suffering as they did about the victim’s.


13 posted on 05/05/2014 8:25:22 PM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: grundle

Our ancestors could be both cruel and brutal.

I would save “draw and quartered” for only the worst of the worst.


14 posted on 05/05/2014 8:28:45 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: grundle
A grenade stapled to the forehead.

That's it, you're gone!

15 posted on 05/05/2014 8:29:31 PM PDT by Doomonyou (Let them eat Lead.)
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To: 353FMG
Who’s going to clean up the mess?

Guillotine Operator Career
16 posted on 05/05/2014 8:31:41 PM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: 353FMG
Why guillotine?

Who’s going to clean up the mess?

Well, if it *has* to have cultural roots, then I suppose Louisiana would be the place to construct a 21st-century guillotine. Get the prisoners at Angola to help out with the project.

Coat all the metal with an industrial non-stick surface and build in a car wash-like rinsing system. Maybe even add an oversized skeeball rig to catch the heads.

17 posted on 05/05/2014 8:31:56 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: grundle

“... The second execution never took place because
the first execution ran into some difficulties ...”
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Practice makes perfect.


18 posted on 05/05/2014 8:35:58 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: Charles Martel
Maybe even add an oversized skeeball rig to catch the heads.

I like that idea. I'm thinking a little drop through an oversized Pachinko machine. Prizes for anyone betting on the hole it ends up in.

OTOH, the thing was used in the 20th century, and not by the French, but the Nazis. Very efficient. Not the best advertisement, though.

19 posted on 05/05/2014 8:38:29 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Billthedrill

I think the French used it or could use it up through the 1960’s


20 posted on 05/05/2014 8:46:18 PM PDT by Fai Mao (Genius at Large)
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To: Fai Mao
I believe you're right. Nor am I entirely opposed to it as a method of sending people off. It has the same immediacy of hanging, that is, the severing of the spinal chord. It's just a little more severed.

I don't mean to sound overly flippant on the issue. The reason for that is this monster: Joseph Duncan. He's still drawing breath. He shouldn't be.

21 posted on 05/05/2014 8:50:12 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: grundle

“Old Sparky” used to be the way Texas dispatched them.

I remember the UN and ACLU cried “cruel and unusual punishment” every time Reddy Kilowatt (brandname) sent a big tingle down their leg and up their a$$.


22 posted on 05/05/2014 8:52:12 PM PDT by Texicanus (Texas, it's a whole 'nother country.)
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To: Billthedrill
Head removal doesn't seem to bother the political left (including the media) when the Muslims do it, but I concede the point.

Perhaps it's time to hide the entire thing behind some hippie-dippy new-age ceremony, similar to "Carousel" in Logan's Run.

23 posted on 05/05/2014 8:57:21 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: grundle

The Guillotine is you know... too European, hanging is good, firing squad is okay, but Old Sparky, now that’s the ticket, the only change would be to administer the current gradually.

At least for those who murdered their victims in a cruel and unusual manner, or they should be executed in the same manner as they executed their victim.


24 posted on 05/05/2014 8:58:20 PM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: grundle

Any form of execution is humane as long as the criminal is unconscious.

KETAMINE and firing squad, guillotine, hanging, electric chair...anything.


25 posted on 05/05/2014 9:03:51 PM PDT by Bobalu (What cannot be programmed cannot be physics)
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To: grundle

the guillotine is fine gut the execution was 100% effective, HE’S DEAD!!!!!


26 posted on 05/05/2014 9:10:03 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: 353FMG

well by that criteria, I guess the wood chipper is out too?


27 posted on 05/05/2014 9:15:23 PM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: grundle
Another angle on the article illustration:

Apparently, it's in Dubrovnik.

28 posted on 05/05/2014 9:15:50 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: grundle

Burn them at the stake. A hot stake is better than a cold chop.


29 posted on 05/05/2014 9:36:29 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: bigbob; 353FMG
well by that criteria, I guess the wood chipper is out too?

When it comes to wood chipper messes, you should ask Henry Lee.

But if you are interested high deterrent value execution methods, you should read the opening of Soviet defector Victor Suvorov's book Aquarium, which describes the GRU, an organization Suvorov managed to leave by means other than the mode he describes.

30 posted on 05/05/2014 9:43:11 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: grundle

“And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. “ Revelation 20:4


31 posted on 05/06/2014 5:22:34 AM PDT by captmar-vell
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To: JohnBovenmyer

The perp also put up a battle royal to frustrate the execution and disrupt the whole procedure. That’s why they had to cut down to find his femoral vein. IOW he pooped into his own nest and has to live with it for eternity.


32 posted on 05/06/2014 7:27:13 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: 353FMG

“Who’s going to clean up the mess?”

The next condemned man in line. It will give him something to do and think about as he awaits his turn.


33 posted on 05/06/2014 10:53:01 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: grundle
‘Botched’ Oklahoma Execution


34 posted on 05/06/2014 10:56:34 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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