Skip to comments.‘Botched’ Oklahoma Execution Proves It’s Time to Bring Back the Guillotine
Posted on 05/05/2014 7:44:37 PM PDT by grundle
Last night, Oklahoma was scheduled to execute two individuals. The second execution was to be of a man who raped and murdered an 11-month-old girl. That execution never took place because the first executionthat of a man who was involved in the murder and burial alive of a 19-year-old woman who walked in on a robberyran into some difficulties. The state was using a new lethal injection cocktail and, it seems, the poor murderer suffered a bit before expiring of a heart attack.
So how do we minimize suffering of the condemned? Our biggest problem as a society is that we have decided bloodlessness is a suitable stand-in for lack of suffering (and a way to protect the sensibilities of those who support the death penalty). Well, the pursuit of a bloodless execution seems to have backfired pretty badly here. And theres evidence that previous lethal injection cocktails werent much better. Allow me to propose a rather radical alternative: the guillotine.
the guillotine really seems to solve everyones problems: It was designed to deliver an efficient, quick, and painless death. It performs that task admirably.
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A rope is fine.
This guy has been reading my posts.
Hanging seems to have the longest tradition and is also fairly painless if you have a hangman who knows what she or he's doing. We can hire them from Singapore until then.
The idea of an assembled audience also has some appeal, as well as singing hymns just to p*ss off the ACLU. Leaving them swinging for a half hour or so also provides a powerful object lesson to wanna be capital criminals. Plus we're not dependent on getting execution drugs from squeamish European suppliers.
Utah used to give them a choice of firing squad or hanging. Sounds reasonable enough to me and far less controversial.
Karma is a beotch scumbag...... guess a little suffering for someone who buried a girl alive.....
Who’s going to clean up the mess?
Human sized microtoner with lemon juice sprayer and greased input chute.
His IV blew out. Happens all the time to live folks in hospitals. You don't like it, but you don't normally consider botched medical care. You consider it bad luck, at least the first time. Or you say you have bad veins. IV drug users will tend to have bad veins. They probably deserve more than their statistical share of death sentences. Should they be immune because of their past bad habits? I doubt blowing their own veins ever stopped them from shooting up.
When the perp's IV blew out they stopped the execution rather than start another IV. Then God killed him anyway. Then the perp's suffering really started! It all went according to the big plan.
I always considered the firing squad as the most honorable way to go tho I guess a lot of those guys don’t deserve anything honorable.
Still it should be effective.
I think we can get the criminal-loving commie libs off our backs if we refer to these events as a euthanization and stop using the word execution. The commie libs love euthanasia.
I hadn’t thought of that. Just call them, extremely late abortions and they will be wanting one for everybody.
Well everyone except themselves.
The cheapest, most cost effective, and almost guaranteed to succeed method is the firing squad. It eliminates a lot of appeals based on more complicated and expensive means; is very quick; and certainly assured.
There are no dangerous gases, no big electrical bills, and no unexpected suffering on the part of the condemned. And every prison is equipped with everything needed right now.
The punishment should fit the crime. We should care as much about the killer’s suffering as they did about the victim’s.
Our ancestors could be both cruel and brutal.
I would save “draw and quartered” for only the worst of the worst.
That's it, you're gone!
Whos going to clean up the mess?
Well, if it *has* to have cultural roots, then I suppose Louisiana would be the place to construct a 21st-century guillotine. Get the prisoners at Angola to help out with the project.
Coat all the metal with an industrial non-stick surface and build in a car wash-like rinsing system. Maybe even add an oversized skeeball rig to catch the heads.
“... The second execution never took place because
the first execution ran into some difficulties ...”
Practice makes perfect.
I like that idea. I'm thinking a little drop through an oversized Pachinko machine. Prizes for anyone betting on the hole it ends up in.
OTOH, the thing was used in the 20th century, and not by the French, but the Nazis. Very efficient. Not the best advertisement, though.
I think the French used it or could use it up through the 1960’s
I don't mean to sound overly flippant on the issue. The reason for that is this monster: Joseph Duncan. He's still drawing breath. He shouldn't be.
“Old Sparky” used to be the way Texas dispatched them.
I remember the UN and ACLU cried “cruel and unusual punishment” every time Reddy Kilowatt (brandname) sent a big tingle down their leg and up their a$$.
Perhaps it's time to hide the entire thing behind some hippie-dippy new-age ceremony, similar to "Carousel" in Logan's Run.
The Guillotine is you know... too European, hanging is good, firing squad is okay, but Old Sparky, now that’s the ticket, the only change would be to administer the current gradually.
At least for those who murdered their victims in a cruel and unusual manner, or they should be executed in the same manner as they executed their victim.
Any form of execution is humane as long as the criminal is unconscious.
KETAMINE and firing squad, guillotine, hanging, electric chair...anything.
the guillotine is fine gut the execution was 100% effective, HE’S DEAD!!!!!
well by that criteria, I guess the wood chipper is out too?
Apparently, it's in Dubrovnik.
Burn them at the stake. A hot stake is better than a cold chop.
When it comes to wood chipper messes, you should ask Henry Lee.
But if you are interested high deterrent value execution methods, you should read the opening of Soviet defector Victor Suvorov's book Aquarium, which describes the GRU, an organization Suvorov managed to leave by means other than the mode he describes.
“And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. “ Revelation 20:4
The perp also put up a battle royal to frustrate the execution and disrupt the whole procedure. That’s why they had to cut down to find his femoral vein. IOW he pooped into his own nest and has to live with it for eternity.
“Whos going to clean up the mess?”
The next condemned man in line. It will give him something to do and think about as he awaits his turn.