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Is Obama Wrong on Ukraine?
Townhall.com ^ | May 6, 2014 | Pat Buchanan

Posted on 05/06/2014 5:03:11 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Kaslin

List all the times Obama has been right on anything. Of course he’s wrong on the Ukraine - intentionally so.


21 posted on 05/06/2014 9:14:25 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Kaslin
Carl von Clausewitz stated (paraphrase): The economic profit-seeking logic of commercial enterprise is equally applicable to the waging of war and negotiating for peace.

It stands to reason that an economic and business illiterate like Obama will be as hobbled in foreign policy as he is in domestic policy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_von_Clausewitz

22 posted on 05/06/2014 10:34:27 AM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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America should only fight i a war with the intended purpose of WINNING. That means defeating the “enemy” and calling the shots after the war ends. Think Germany and Japan circa 1945.
Getting our young men and women killed for political poinst or to play police officer of the world must stop.............


23 posted on 05/06/2014 10:43:14 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (I am an American - Not a Republican or a Democrat.)
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If I had to vote today for Obama or McCain/Mitt , I would chose Obama, just because of this serious issue.

We need to cultivate Russia into a friend and partner that they have wanted to be for the last 30 some odd years.

And that will be difficult considering the differences between our cultures. Our's has been going downward and accelerating.

24 posted on 05/06/2014 10:50:32 AM PDT by duckln
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To: Kaslin

It’s a heck of burden being Buchanan. Did he ever win over 1% of the presidential vote? Yet, so smart was he that he ran again and again with the firm conviction that he is and was an expert on foreign policy. He campaigned again and again too to save Saddam. (I’m not saying he was in love. But he may have been.) It didn’t work out well for either of them, but at least Pat didn’t lose his over the matter. Poor Pat. He’s always been right about the USA not fighting Hitler (though what we can do about it now remains unclear) and isolationism. Too bad he lives in a country that’s a democracy that can ignore him and not one like his latest focus of admiration, Putin’s. People say his problems are deep seated. They say it all goes back to the uncle who died at the death camp, the one who fell out of the tower. I don’t know for sure, but I know the poor man has never met a tyrant that didn’t fit his weird brand of conservatism.


25 posted on 05/06/2014 10:58:33 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: Kaslin
Pat Buchanan's radio dial, after 40 years, is still tuned to radio station NAM.

He was so beaten, as a political guy, by General Agayants and KGB's Antiwar movement (directed at a couple of removes through the New Left and the Old Left/CPUSA), that he still wants to stay out of the ring. His boss was the better man; he climbed right in and whipped them. Pat still thinks two oceans will protect us from ICBM's and demographic invasion.

26 posted on 05/06/2014 12:49:25 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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We need to cultivate Russia into a friend and partner that they have wanted to be for the last 30 some odd years.

I think you're seriously out of your mind. Putin is nothing but old-line KGB, and all those Khrushchev boasts about "we will bury you" are still good with him.

Ordinary Russians are one thing. Russian nationalists and old-school Bolsheviks are another matter entirely. Russia is run by a combination of those two passions.

27 posted on 05/06/2014 12:52:41 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: lentulusgracchus
Things now are upside down from what they were 30 years ago.

Only the brainwashed well by our MSM, would believe that Putin is pedaling communist ideology and world domination. Respect yes.

He has all he can handle protecting his huge country, with only 135 million people, the last thing he wants is an area war being forced on him by an encroaching NATO.

He's moving his country forward and that's what we should be doing.

28 posted on 05/06/2014 8:58:57 PM PDT by duckln
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Think about the logic of what you just said (assuming you're not an FSB troll), and see if you can see the weakness in your argument.

Putin/Russia's real problem in this century is going to be keeping the RFE and eastern Siberia away from the Chinese.

So NATO is his problem? If I were in Putin's shoes I'd be angling for membership in NATO myself! He's going to need serious help when the PLA shows up in Khabarovsk one morning without an invitation.

Meanwhile, he should be adding infrastructure, and inviting other non-Chinese players to do likewise, in Siberia. Especially roads and railroads, far out of reach of the newly-mobile PLA.

He needs to be engaging Canada and the United States to build multimodal, high-speed Great Circle rail/truck routes from the North American upper Midwest across Alaska and the Bering Straits to Yakutsk and other Siberian towns, and down the coast to Magadan and the cities of the RFE, like Khabarovsk, which is the hinge-point (as well as an admin and defense center) of the Russian holdings there; and then along a second Great Circle through the big oil fields of western Siberia to Moscow and the industrial towns scattered along the Ural chain, and beyond Moscow to central and western Europe -- Smolensk, Warsaw, Berlin, Paris, and the French Atlantic ports like Nantes and Rouen.

That's what Russia needs to be doing.

29 posted on 05/07/2014 2:43:51 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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