Skip to comments.Asians outperform white students because they try harder: study
Posted on 05/06/2014 8:56:56 AM PDT by equalator
"Asian-Americans enter school with no discernible academic advantage over whites," said the study, noting that "advantage grows over time."
By fifth grade, or age 10-11, Asian-Americans "significantly outperform whites," and the peak difference is reached by grade 10, or age 15-16.
"Overall, these results suggest that the growing achievement gap can be attributed to a widening gap in academic effort rather than to differences in cognitive ability."
Asian-Americans tend to be motivated by cultural teachings that instill the notion that effort is more important than inborn ability, researchers said.
They also endure "greater parental pressures to succeed than in the case of comparable white peers."
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"They also have more conflict with both parents than comparable white peers," it said."
Really? I have never heard that before.
Yeah because parents would kill the kids in Asian American culture LOL!
That’s because their parents don’t try to be their buddies.
They don’t try harder because they have a try harder gene.
They try harder because their parents push them.
Being pushed causes conflict as well as increased performance.
In other news, water has been discovered to be wet.
Yeah, that must be it. The worthless hippy generation and their worthless legacy. It’s going to be a real shame when the last hippy dies off. I am rolling my eyes, by the way.
“They also endure “greater parental pressures to succeed than in the case of comparable white peers.””
Greater parental pressure. That’s a nice way to put it.
I dare anyone to apply the same logic to African Americans.
You mean no trophies for showing up?
No kidding. Asian students outperform ALL other students (not just white students)for the same exact reason, but by specifying "white" students when drawing the comparison, the focus would rightfully remain on the factual observation, analysis, and conclusion as opposed to being on the mention of 'race', thereby diverting the focus of the article and generating the faux outrage that is usually associated with such factual comparisons.
You want to increase academic performance for all students; emulate the Asian students. Throwing more tax dollars at the problem will do nothing.
Yeah, but why does their culture teach that? Why do their parents push? Maybe because they're smarter in the first place? People act as though cultures are random, like the Culture Fairy took a magic wand and bestowed cultures on groups of people, and some got good cultures and others bad.
The left must hate Asians. They go absolutely against all the memes they use to try and control people.
Not all of them, of course. But more than here.
No. I mean greater parental pressure is a good euphemism for physical and psychological abuse.
Okay, so just because their advantage grows over time, why do we know that that is due simply to greater study? Asians mature more slowly than other races in other areas, so it would make sense to me that the same would pertain in intellectual power.
This is racist! /s
That would get my vote too.
You’re doing your homework! Get to it! NOW!
Here’s more on different races gaining in intellect at different rates. (E.g., black babies mature more quickly than white babies, who mature more quickly than Asian babies.)
White children are often under the influence of drugs to calm them down, which of course, makes it very difficult for them to learn properly.
Of course, we could do a simple experiment of taking Asian kids away from their parents and swapping them with non-Asian children. The Asian kids would be raised by non-Asian parents and vice versa.
It will never happen, but I don't think the results would be to their, libs, liking. Just like they don't like the book by Nicholas Wade, science writer for the N.Y Times, called "A Troublesome Inheritance" where he pretty much proves inherited intelligence.
And whites outperform blacks why?
Asian kids don’t have a ‘built-in’ defeatist attitude. They know what is expected of them and they wish to please their parents.
They also have parents....................
The parents push harder because they know what it is like to be hungry, with not enough (or no) food to eat.
More people should go to bed hungry in this country. Hunger focuses the mind wonderfully well.
You got that right my aunt up in Alaska teach at Fairbank school mostly Chinese and Japanese American students they follow her class each day they really want see what teaching this going be today
This is high school
Yes, the Left hates us for exactly those reasons. We don’t fit their template. We refuse to be poor and downtrodden. we want our children to be engineers and doctors not rappers and drug dealers..............
Their IQ is also about 5 points higher than whites.
And white IQ is 20 points higher than blacks
And Jewish IQ is 20 points higher than whites
Combine IQ with effort = better students
Combine lower IQ with no effort = sons of Obama
This is so raciss. Who will demand that Asians “check their privilege”, and perform more in line with other minorities?
See this is the deal. If you want sucess, get of you ass and try harder. ..
Problem being the left has promoted keeping us in diffrent groups and given each group a diffrence excuses not to get of their ass.
Because its logical to apply the reason Asians outperform to not just whites but ALL groups
But if you did apply this reason ANY group beside whites it would be decried as racist.
No pain no gain, excuses for failure cripple people.
My daughter signed up for math club in middle school, (her choice, she likes math, go figure). When I go to pick her up, it looks like I accidentally walked into a meeting of the Asian-American Students Association.
Can’t be - the common core advocates say Asian’s only score better because of the curriculum and that common core is going to bring Washington, DC school students up to par with Asian students.
Intelligence is also a predictor of interest math and the logical.
That’s because “conflict” in lib speak is discipline in ours.
When I was in grad school, I had a chinese office mate who was constantly asking for my help with his computer programming assignments, and I’m white.
It can also mean a more structured and disciplined upbringing, in a positive way, and not the “abuse” you so quickly created and embraced.
What do you know about it?
When you've heard that from your Kindergarten days, what does one expect?
With the exception of the early ancestors in our home country, college attendance for the last four generations is/was 100%. Of those, folks in my family with post-graduate degrees probably stands at about 90%. My grandmother is one of fifteen kids, so that is a lot of educated people.
Cuz you're racist, so shut up.
Common Core = slapping leg irons on academically successful people.
Reminds me of this joke posted elsewhere
Guy goes into a bar, theres a robot bartender. The robot says, What will you have? The guy says, Martini. The robot brings back the best martini ever and says to the man, Whats your IQ? The guy says,168. The robot then proceeds to talk about physics, space exploration and medical technology.
The guy leaves, but he is curious, so he goes back into the bar. The robot bartender says, What will you have? The guy says, Martini. Again, the robot makes a great martini, gives it to the man and says, Whats your IQ? The guy says, 100. The robot then starts to talk about Nascar, Budweiser and John Deere tractors.
The guy leaves, but finds it very interesting, so he thinks he will try it one more time. He goes back into the bar. The robot says, What will you have? The guy says, Martini, and the robot brings him another great martini. The robot then says, Whats your IQ? The guy says, Uh, about 50. The robot leans in real close and says, So, you people still happy you voted for Obama?
Don’t Japanese teens have one of the highest rates of suicide in the world because a lot of them can never live up to the expectations of their families?
The left hates success and successful entrepreneurship, and individualism.
They hate whites for the same reasons. Leftism is a religion of self-loathing and perpetual victim-hood. Misery loves company, it’s who they are.
You can provide leadership without abuse and you can abuse without leading. That applies to both children and adults. Too many people confuse the two as either a reason to avoid leading or an excuse to abuse.
Abuse is violation of the roles that the parents and children play in the society. Parents are expected to facilitate learning in their children. Methods vary across cultures.
The catch is that children are not as sophisticated as adults; you cannot guarantee that a mere talk will convince a bad student to become a good one. This is why many societies approve physical punishments of children - it's something that children understand well. Even a smart kid, who heard the talk and logically understands that his parents are right, may be unable to restrain himself in some situations. Fear of punishment is a backup control mechanism. Children still learn from their own mistakes; however guidance from parents helps them to survive until adulthood. Too many Sons of Obama manage to stop a bullet with their bodies before they figure out that gangs and crime are not such a good idea.
My comment was largely facetious and meant to be humorous.
Yet, there is truth in it.
The psychological abuse is the greater issue.
It’s somewhat complicated in that instilled discipline is a good thing.
We used to have that in the US. Because we’ve lost our way, we look with a loss of objectivity to Oriental culture because it has a semblance of what we used to have.
But there is a difference between a work ethic and filial piety.
As an American, old time from pre-Revolution immigrants and Cherokee from way back, I know a lot about East Asian culture due to my marriage and extended family and friends.
There’s good and bad in this “trying harder”.
Sadly to report YES
If we removed Ritalin and various other medications from kids who are just high spirited (and their mentally fragile parents can’t handle it) we would have a lot more success.
I’ve never seen even the Ashkenazi Jewish population averaging 20 points higher than whites.
This study shows nothing new. 20 years ago, when I was taking Education classes, several studies showed that grades were inversely proportional to time spent watching TV: the more time watching TV, the lower the grades. And Asian-American kids watched the least TV, about 1/10th as much as other kids. Moreover, when I was studying Psychology, at least one study showed that the more time spent doing homework, the higher the grades earned. Again, Asian-American students spent more time on homework, 2 or 3 times as much.
Asian kids get beat pretty good. Scarring included.