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No Russians among Slavyansk self-defense forces NYT reporters
Russia Today ^ | 05-06-2014

Posted on 05/06/2014 3:07:25 PM PDT by PaulCruz2016

Self-defense forces in the anti-Kiev stronghold of Slavyansk are Ukrainians, not Russians, who distrust the new regime and the Western powers that support it, New York Times reporters have discovered. The forces also said they are not being paid to fight.

Two New York Times reporters have spent a week in the city of Slavyansk in eastern Ukraine, talking to members of the self-defense forces. The journalists visited self-defense checkpoints and observed the forces as they battled Ukrainian troops amid a military assault on the city on Friday.

The resistance fighters of the 12th Company, part of the People’s Self-Defense of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic, deny claims made by Kiev and its Western sponsors that Russia or private tycoons are paying them to fight.

“This is not a job,” one of the activists, Dmitry told the NYT reporters. “It is a service.”

Armed with dated weapons, the self-defense activists said they would have bought new weapons if they had financial support. The NYT journalists reported seeing weapons from the 1980s and 1990s in checkpoints and warehouses.

(Excerpt) Read more at rt.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Russia
KEYWORDS: newyorktimes; russia; slavyansk; ukraine

1 posted on 05/06/2014 3:07:25 PM PDT by PaulCruz2016
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To: PaulCruz2016

I hope they remembered to make sure the Self-Defense Forces are composed of an appropriately diverse selection of warfighters, counselors, and activists.


2 posted on 05/06/2014 3:10:00 PM PDT by Steely Tom (How do you feel about robbing Peter's robot?)
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To: PaulCruz2016

In before “Putin is the Second Coming!”


3 posted on 05/06/2014 3:13:28 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Mohammed was a Child Rapist and Islam is a Totalitarian Death Cult.)
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To: PaulCruz2016

is this the same new york times that denied the ukraine fammine a few years back?


4 posted on 05/06/2014 3:13:53 PM PDT by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: PaulCruz2016
The NY Times getting nostalgic, interviewing behind enemy lines.

SE Asia in the 60's.

Central America in the 80's.

The Mid East in the 2000's.

Now this.

5 posted on 05/06/2014 3:18:06 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign

Durante all over again! LIES!!!!!!!!!!!!


6 posted on 05/06/2014 3:23:16 PM PDT by Leo Carpathian (FReeeeepeesssssed)
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To: Uncle Miltie

Russian Colonel Igor Girkin: ‘Only five of my guys dead’ in Sloviansk —

I guess that makes russians in Ukraine ‘’official’’’
in spite of what kremlon internet trolls say.
Or make up...Ed


7 posted on 05/06/2014 3:26:00 PM PDT by hubel458
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To: PaulCruz2016
If the NYT says it's true,you know it's false.I seem to recall a certain Pulitzer Prize that was awarded for reporting on events in Ukraine.......
8 posted on 05/06/2014 3:37:33 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Stalin Blamed The Kulaks,Obama Blames The Tea Party)
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To: Leo Carpathian
1930's...NY Times lies about famine in Ukraine in order to cover for their hero in Moscow.

2014....NY Times lies about the USSR's invasion of yet another weaker,smaller,neighbor.

9 posted on 05/06/2014 3:39:59 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Stalin Blamed The Kulaks,Obama Blames The Tea Party)
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To: PaulCruz2016
Perhaps the NYT's staff are emulating their esteemed, Pulitzer-Prize winning colleague, Walter Duranty:

Duranty was reporting at a time when opinions were strongly divided on the Soviet Union and its leadership. Their participation in the League of Nations was viewed optimistically by some. Others saw an inevitable confrontation between Fascism and Communism as requiring individuals to take one side or the other. Even into World War II, Joseph E. Davies, U.S. Ambassador to the Soviet Union (1936–38), represented positively both "Russia and its people in their gallant struggle to preserve the peace until ruthless aggression made war inevitable" and Stalin as a "decent and clean-living" man and "a great leader."[12]

Many reporters of Duranty's time slanted their coverage in favour for the Soviet Union, either because the capitalist world was sinking under the weight of the Great Depression, out of a true belief in Communism or out of fear of being expelled from Moscow, which would result in the loss of livelihood. Also, many editors found it hard to believe a state would deliberately starve millions of its own people. However, even with this to consider, Duranty's reports were the source of much frustration from The Times readers in 1932, as his reports directly contradicted the paper's own editorial page.[7]

While Duranty has been criticized generally for deferring to Stalin and the Soviet Union's official propaganda rather than reporting news, the major controversy regarding his work is his reporting on the great famine of 1932–33, now known as the Holodomor. Since the 1970s, Duranty's work has come under increasingly harsh fire for reporting there was no famine, even while it was clear from his personal exchanges that he was fully aware of the scale of the calamity. Indeed, he privately reported to the British embassy in Moscow that as many as 10 million people may have died, directly or indirectly, from famine in the Soviet Union in the previous year. * Robert Conquest has written several books, starting in the 1970s—including The Great Terror and Harvest of Sorrow and most recently Reflections on a Ravaged Century (1990)—critical of Duranty's reporting.

Duranty has also been retroactively criticized for defending Stalin's notorious Moscow Trials of 1938, which were staged to eliminate potential challengers to Stalin's authority.

S. J. Taylor, author of the critical Duranty biography, "Stalin's Apologist",[16] argues that Duranty's reporting was a key factor in U.S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt's 1933 decision to grant official recognition to the Soviet Union.


10 posted on 05/06/2014 3:44:05 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: PaulCruz2016
Well! Now we know the truth. I have been waiting for the definitive word from the NYSlime. I mean, if they say it is so then it must be so; they have been so truthful in the past without a political agenda.

God! this type of sarcasm is very difficult to write sometimes.

11 posted on 05/06/2014 3:53:09 PM PDT by dirtymac (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country)
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To: PaulCruz2016

The Old Gray Whore turns another trick.

Thankfully, I’m not one of her marks.


12 posted on 05/06/2014 3:59:00 PM PDT by Justa
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To: PaulCruz2016

“There is no starvation in the Ukraine” New York Times.


13 posted on 05/06/2014 4:02:06 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Leo Carpathian
NY Times finding old allies in E. Ukraine and Crimea.


14 posted on 05/06/2014 4:09:27 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: PaulCruz2016
Russia Today referring to the New York Times in an effort to appear more honest by association. Still a fail.

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15 posted on 05/06/2014 4:09:33 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: PaulCruz2016

http://glasstone.blogspot.com/2009/11/groupthink-and-proliferation-why.html
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16 posted on 05/06/2014 4:10:29 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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17 posted on 05/06/2014 4:11:18 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: FreeReign
Oh it's much more relevant then just slanted reporting on the mid-60s insurgencies.

Walter Duranty was the NYT apologist for Stalin and the Holomodor.

It was decades before the Left admitted he lied.

18 posted on 05/06/2014 4:50:36 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: Regulator
It was decades before the Left admitted he lied.

And it wasn't "he lied" as in "he didn't know and said any old thing". He knew about the millions of deaths and lied about it in his articles.

19 posted on 05/06/2014 5:07:57 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: PaulCruz2016

Who knew Paul Cruz was in favor of Peddling KGB propaganda from a Russian Propaganda tv network run for. sociopath tyrant / former KGB monster named Putin.

So troll did you join in Oct 2 2013 to peddle KGB lies ?


20 posted on 05/06/2014 6:14:12 PM PDT by ncalburt ( Amnesty-media out in full force)
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To: Regulator

Any reslly shocked the left wing NY Slimes loves a KGB thug named Putin and lie for him!
Do you recall Rush’s comments about Gorba-gasims by the media.
Don’t forget that our professional left wing WH spokesman worked in Russia and his wife Comrade Claire Shipman was previously married to a NY Slimes reporter who was a huge fan of the evil Empire !

Comrade Claire kept the posters from her good times behind the Iron Curtain where the peasants knew there place !


21 posted on 05/06/2014 6:22:45 PM PDT by ncalburt ( Amnesty-media out in full force)
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To: ncalburt

>> Who knew Paul Cruz was in favor of Peddling KGB propaganda from a Russian Propaganda tv network <<

Hmm! Maybe his IP address would show that he’s posting from somewhere in Russia?


22 posted on 05/06/2014 6:56:56 PM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: FreeReign; Leo Carpathian

These guys are the dead enders for the meat grinders. Dupes like millions before them. The first team of Team KGB is long gone. Their job was to seize strategic objectives and create chaos. Mission “accomplished”. They aren’t needed anymore for a job that any villager with an AK can do.

What I find interesting is Strelok appears to be MIA. Pencil necked Hero of the Donetsk Republic Girkin took a selfie on the day the anti terror operation kicked off and hasn’t been seen since. He’s probably in Donetsk or Moscow leaving these dim bulbs to their fate.


23 posted on 05/06/2014 7:44:22 PM PDT by lodi90
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