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Criminal responsibility for rehabilitation of Nazism is introduced in Russia
Itar Tass ^ | 05/07/2014 | Itar Tass

Posted on 05/06/2014 9:38:33 PM PDT by goldstategop

Criminal responsibility for rehabilitation of Nazism is introduced in Russia Russia May 07, 7:31 UTC+4

The maximum punishment being the deprivation of freedom for a term of up to five years

MOSCOW, May 07, /ITAR-TASS/. Criminal responsibility for the rehabilitation of Nazism is introduced in Russia, effective from Wednesday, with the maximum punishment being the deprivation of freedom for a term of up to five years. Amendments to this effect to the Penal Code and to the Code on Administrative Offences are published in Rossiiskaya Gazeta.

Article 354.1 ("Rehabilitation of Nazism") is added to the Penal Code. The Article envisages punishments ranging from a fine (up to 300,000 roubles) to deprivation of freedom or forced labour for a term of up to three years for a denial in public of the facts established by the sentence passed by the Nuremberg Tribunal, or an approval of the crimes established by the Tribunal, as well as for spread of deliberately false data on the activities of the USSR during the Second World War years.

The maximum fine for the same acts, committed with the use of one's official position, with the use of the media, and the framing-up of charges, grows up to 500,000 roubles and a possible prison term of up to five years, the newspaper points out.

The new Penal Code article also provides for one's responsibility for the "spread of data expressing an obvious disrespect for society and concerning the Days of Military Glory and Russia's commemorative dates connected with the defence of the Fatherland, and for desecration in public of the symbols of Russia's military glory. This is penalized by a fine of up to 300,000 roubles or compulsory or correctional labour.

Provision is made for a fine ranging from 400,000 to one million roubles for legal entities guilty of similar offences committed with the use of the media and the Internet.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: criminalsanctions; itartass; nazism; russia
Russia has now amended the federal criminal code to introduce criminal sanctions for the rehabilitation of Nazism, effective from Wednesday, May 7, 2014.

Fines and prison terms are contemplated for violation of the new law. Freedom of speech has clear limits in Russia.

1 posted on 05/06/2014 9:38:33 PM PDT by goldstategop
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To: goldstategop
Freedom of speech has clear limits in Russia.

Considering all the dead and beaten journalists and editors, news organizations closed down or taken over, with Russian "journalists" receiving awards from Putin for "objectivity," and then go on and have interviews wherein they declare "propaganda" as a legitimate form of "journalism," and this new journalism as an "effective weapon" for their cause, what was your first hint that there are "limits," extreme ones, on freedom of speech in Russia?

2 posted on 05/06/2014 9:43:39 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: goldstategop

Ah the communists find a new way for the thought police to throw people into the gulag


3 posted on 05/06/2014 10:15:49 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: goldstategop

Is Putin a Democrat? Unlike Democrats he just doesn’t point out and scream at everyone he says is a Nazi he jails them! Coming soon to a Democrat Party near you?


4 posted on 05/06/2014 10:48:48 PM PDT by melsec (Once a Jolly Swagman camped by a Billabong.)
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To: goldstategop
Freedom of speech has clear limits in Russia.

This is true. But, to my mind, freedom of speech must go with a certain responsibility for spoken words.

5 posted on 05/07/2014 12:33:05 AM PDT by Freelance Warrior (A Russian.)
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To: Nifster
the communists find a new way for the thought police to throw people into the gulag

They had a better way back then: at Stalin's era people could be jailed for any disagreement with the Bolshevics, today only for stating that Hitler was a good guy. Besides, a similar law is in Germany - one can be jailed for Holocaust denial.

6 posted on 05/07/2014 12:37:25 AM PDT by Freelance Warrior (A Russian.)
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To: Freelance Warrior

~This is true. But, to my mind, freedom of speech must go with a certain responsibility for spoken words. ~

To me speech may not be in a sphere of legal regulations, but Russia is simply following a practice of enlighted Europe on this matter.


7 posted on 05/07/2014 12:42:12 AM PDT by wetphoenix
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To: wetphoenix
To me speech may not be in a sphere of legal regulations, but Russia is simply following a practice of enlighted Europe on this matter.

Picture of two people continuously verbally offending themselves in public doesn't look nice to me. Either a police should intervene or those two must be prosecuted not for a duel.

8 posted on 05/07/2014 12:49:54 AM PDT by Freelance Warrior (A Russian.)
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To: wetphoenix

This is snow job to aid putin calling Ukrainians

Nazis, to make it seem he is better than them.

And drive others away from helping Ukraine...

There are more Nazis in Russia, including putin,

than all the rest of the world. Their is even Nazi

like political parties in russia’s Duma. The russian nazis

have big parades with thousands attending....Ed


9 posted on 05/07/2014 3:14:01 AM PDT by hubel458
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To: Freelance Warrior

You apparently have not been reading any of the news out of the Soviet Union (formerly known as Russia) about the journalists , business men, and others who disagree with Putin are being rounded up and tossed in jail

Do not kid yourself. Putin is restoring the Soviet glory (according to him). He is, was, and will always be KGB.


10 posted on 05/07/2014 9:58:04 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: Nifster
1. I meant the theoretical dimension, what freedom of speech is from the Russian point ov view vs the American one;

2. Putin is restoring the Russian glory, not the Soviet one (according to him). The Soviet glory would mean a all-national nationalisation.

3. Those anti-Putin activists are punished for misdemeanors, except the businessmen. This makes your 'tossed in jail' inaccurate. The said businessmen did commit crimes, but too many Russians have comitted crimes in the lawless 90ies, and, if prosecuted properly, millions would be jailed. The real problem here is selective use of justice.

11 posted on 05/07/2014 10:34:39 AM PDT by Freelance Warrior (A Russian.)
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To: Freelance Warrior

You are delusional.....


12 posted on 05/07/2014 11:27:04 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: Nifster

I’m an insider, therefore I know much on the subject.


13 posted on 05/07/2014 12:11:04 PM PDT by Freelance Warrior (A Russian.)
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To: goldstategop
What Russia is saying here is that if there's any talk of restoring Nazism in Russia, those who do so will be fined and thrown in jail.

I suspect if Ukrainians came to visit relatives around here and in public advocated forming right wing Nazi type militias to enforce the law, it would be labeled gang activity and they'd be thrown in jail.

14 posted on 05/07/2014 12:20:07 PM PDT by grania
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To: Freelance Warrior

Oh sure thing you and Alex Jones.... So what do you think of the most recent crack down on the Soviet Union’s (formerly known as Russia) crack down on bloggers and internet access? (this happened today)


15 posted on 05/07/2014 3:57:03 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Nifster
O.K., let's review the recent bill which has imposed new rules on bloggers:

- they are to be registered if subscribers' number >=3000;
- internet sites should not delete posts for at least 6 months
- registered bloggers should public their names and emails
- registered bloggers should check facts before posting
- registered bloggers should obey other information laws in effect (state secrets, extremism, personal data, porn and etc.)

I'm not sure you cannot find elsewhere alike rules . The punishment for breaking this law is fines 10 000 - 30 000 roubles for individuals and 100 000 - 300 000 for organisations. The US dollar is 36 roubles.

So, nothing like "tossing to jail". Anyway, I'd not state it's ok with the freedom of speech in Russia, it's still not the USSR.

16 posted on 05/08/2014 1:07:19 AM PDT by Freelance Warrior (A Russian.)
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To: Freelance Warrior

The Soviet constitution guaranteed all sorts of things (like free speech and religious expression) NONE of which were actually allowed in practice.

The fact that YOU have not yet been arrested does not mean others have not been. You post from a message board that just may have an axe to grind.

The list of things you picked out from the new law do NOT exist in the US...

What I do notice is that you have NO idea what a real republic with constitutional freedoms is all about.

Since the law is new you have NO idea how it will be used with Putin consolidating his power


17 posted on 05/08/2014 10:01:36 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: Nifster
I don't pretend that Russia has the same degree of freedom of speech that the U.S. has. While some ex-Rusians claim that the U.S. has a far stricter mind control that Russia of the USSR have ever had, while it's not run by the government ...

To the topic: jailing isn't a rule here, any case of prosecution of an opposition activist is a news. This is the point you started with and I replied on it, not in a broader sense. The case of suspension of the Navalny's verdict is a good example.

18 posted on 05/10/2014 10:51:35 AM PDT by Freelance Warrior (A Russian.)
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To: Freelance Warrior

I know you think you receive lots and lots of information from the ‘sources’ that Putin provides.....

You make me laugh when you suggest that the US has stricter ‘mind control’ than Russia or the USSR......You really don’t know your own history. Have you read any of the 20th century dissents works???

You have no clue


19 posted on 05/10/2014 11:46:36 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: Nifster
Putin provides.....

Putin cannot provide everything I can access, especially in the Internet era.

‘mind control’

Isn't the US PC crowd or NAACP or feminists exercising a sort of mind control?

Have you read any of the 20th century dissents works???

Yes, as well as their critics. Speaking about the knowledge on the topic by a common American, it's pure bullshit since he is fed by propaganda and doesn't care for a critical research - what is understandable, since those Soviet/Russian matters are too remote for him.

20 posted on 05/10/2014 1:23:06 PM PDT by Freelance Warrior (A Russian.)
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To: Freelance Warrior

What the heck is U S P C? No the NAACP is most definitely not using mind control.

You think you know so much about the US. Have you ever even been here?


21 posted on 05/10/2014 2:45:08 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Nifster
Those are 2 different words. "US"+"PC". I meant the American "political correctness crowd".

When all those activists don't impose rules of public life whether formally or de-facto, then we can say there's no mind control present. But instead we see banning Mark Twain's masterpiece "The adventures of Huckleberry Finn" from American schools.

22 posted on 05/10/2014 2:59:19 PM PDT by Freelance Warrior (A Russian.)
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To: Freelance Warrior

And yet you refuse to answer my question...interesting. At least I have been to your country and know people who are still there.

Your comment about political correctness is over dramatic. You cite the occasional concerns raised by Clemens use of language that some folks find offensive. The truth is the book is not banned from US schools. It is still considered a classic. That some people want to ban it is not the same as it being banned.

Your understanding of the US is grossly inadequate and probably fed by the appropriate sources.

Until you answer my question, have you EVER been to the US, I will not bother with you.


23 posted on 05/10/2014 7:51:19 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Nifster
I will not bother with you

With such your tone I see no reason to reply. Stay happy with yourself.

24 posted on 05/11/2014 11:28:28 PM PDT by Freelance Warrior (A Russian.)
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To: goldstategop

Wow. Now, socialist fascism is a crime, in the USSR? If Germanic borne? Good grief. The ant keepers- know, no bound.


25 posted on 05/11/2014 11:39:21 PM PDT by RedHeeler
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