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Notre Dame Calls Cops On School-Authorized Table Promoting Traditional Marriage
The Daily Caller ^ | 12:05 PM 05/01/2014 | Eric Owens, Education Editor

Posted on 05/07/2014 8:01:58 AM PDT by topher

Members of a group that promotes traditional heterosexual marriage say school officials at the University of Notre Dame called the police after group members set up a table on campus — even though “an officially recognized on-campus student group” had received permission for the display.

The cops rushed to the scene after they got the call from school officials at the Roman Catholic school and quickly slapped a “cease and desist” order on the conservative group, Tradition Family Property Student Action, reports Campus Reform.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailycaller.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Indiana
KEYWORDS: marriage; notredame
Notre Dame is that University that had about 100 Bishops/Cardinals coming down on the University for inviting Obama to speech.

I guess they are the same old school that does not represent Catholic values.

I still say they should change their name to Knute Rockne U -- they are Football school -- that is all.

1 posted on 05/07/2014 8:01:58 AM PDT by topher
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To: topher

This is crazy. So the conservative students could have a table present, but weren’t allowed to have anyone staff the table...at a supposedly Catholic institution. It seems that so many Catholic schools aren’t really interested in following Catholic teachings anymore.


2 posted on 05/07/2014 8:09:39 AM PDT by FamiliarFace
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To: topher

Is it too much to hope that if not the Pope of Rome himself, then at least the local ordinary, will call the administration to account?


3 posted on 05/07/2014 8:10:22 AM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: topher

This country is circling the drain.


4 posted on 05/07/2014 8:11:11 AM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: The_Reader_David

Yes!


5 posted on 05/07/2014 8:11:44 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: FamiliarFace

Is anyone else amazed at this?

Less than 20 years ago, Congress passed the Defense of Marriage Act, by overwhelming margins. The definition of marriage was not controversial at all back then.

Nowadays, not only is the definition of marriage controversial, we also have a situation in which the liberals charge you are bigoted, if you support the definition of marriage which was not controversial not too many years ago.

So, we have a situation, in which you can’t even support traditional marriage at a Catholic university. The Catholic Church recognizes only traditional monogamous marriage, but we’re not allowed to talk about that aspect of church doctrine at a church affiliated university.

We live in strange times. Orwell’s 1984 is here.


6 posted on 05/07/2014 8:14:35 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: topher

whatever my personal views on gay marriage are -they are of no consequence-—BUT—isn’t this an RC school? I thought the RC Church does not support same sex marriage. I guess Notre Damned really doesn’t give a flying focaccia about those things. More importantly, what about freedom of conscience and freedom of speech - I guess that is relative in academia (the highest bastion of the Left along with Hollywood). When the RC church comments about socio-political topics yes, I read what they have to say—but do I really take them seriously? It depends (not the kind that I wear-lol)


7 posted on 05/07/2014 8:14:54 AM PDT by brooklyn dave ( We need a Klingon for President!)
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This country is circling the drain.

Yes, but if we just vote for E-Republicans who can win, and not those rascally constitutionalist types, it will be allllllll better. They promise.

8 posted on 05/07/2014 8:16:12 AM PDT by TruthBeforeAll
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To: topher; All
They had permission from the administration. They also informed, and got permission from the Notre Dame Storm Troopers. Disgusting. I get emails from TFP and I sent off an email to the head criminal of this used to be Catholic University. Oh I am a Catholic who is tired of this crap.
Christ in the Temple is my Christ. Time to kick some pansy Catholic butt. I have asked the turn the other cheek crowd how meek Christ was when he whipped the money changers in the Temple. Crickets.
9 posted on 05/07/2014 8:29:34 AM PDT by prof.h.mandingo (Buck v. Bell (1927) An idea whose time has come (for extreme liberalism))
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To: topher

The “offended” set routinely calls the police for non-crimes. The police routinely arrest innocent people for non-crimes that violate political correctness.
The police now enforce political correctness.

When was this country founded? How many years did it last as a beacon of freedom?


10 posted on 05/07/2014 8:31:43 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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To: topher

It started with Hesburgh and the “Land of Lakes” statement more than 40 years ago when the Marxists were marching through the Institutions to take over all perceptions/minds of the masses, especially necessary in the Catholic Church, since along with Abp. Fulton Sheen and the time of Dodd (Bella Dodd), the CC was the most visceral, organized force against Marxism and Freemasonry, and a force for Truth in the World, that even gained the White House of the US.

The Catholic Church had an organization that the Marxists/Communists envied and subverted. it is their M.O.

(It is why all the molestations/homosexual takeover (Fr. Oko’s Report). Vatican II allowed all the chaos/subversion to occur and many people inside the CC know that Masons/Marxists were responsible for setting up the Church for the invasion and looking the other way....”Good Bye, Good Men”.

The Catholic Church had to be subverted/destroyed to gain control of the World. Truth has to be subverted and kids confused—only Lies can be allowed in the public square “for the children” and in the Universities...the Marxist training ground.

http://www.amazon.com/What-Happened-Notre-Dame-Charles/dp/1587319209


11 posted on 05/07/2014 8:35:36 AM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: topher

Harvard was once a Puritan Divinity School.


12 posted on 05/07/2014 8:41:00 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: The_Reader_David
Is it too much to hope that if not the Pope of Rome himself, then at least the local ordinary, will call the administration to account?

What? And risk calling down the thunder from the Gay Nazi Squad? Au contraire mon frere. That would take some backbone.

13 posted on 05/07/2014 8:48:30 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Only Liberals can look at an amendment that says “shall not be infringed" and see blank parchment.)
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To: prof.h.mandingo
At the time of the Obama invitation to Notre Dame (2008/2009), the head of the Holy Cross order had his email given out as someone people could complain to.

The local bishop also has jurisdiction over this University -- it is wants to claim to be Catholic.

Maybe people need to politely contact the Bishop's Office.

14 posted on 05/07/2014 8:51:47 AM PDT by topher (Traditional values -- especially family values -- which have been proven over time.)
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To: topher

I am a classmate of the President of Notre Dame, John I. Jenkins. Jenkins is a member of the Congregation of Holy Cross. Jenkins needs to resign immediately. So should Bishop Daniel Jenky, CSC of Peoria, Illinois, a member of the ND Board of Fellows, the 12 member group that actually governs ND. As a Fellow, he was complicit in this.

As far as the police are concerned, these are members of the godless goon squad known as the Notre Dame Security Police, or “NDSP”. These jokers generally don’t act on their own but take their marching orders from upstairs, such as the University’s general counsel Marianne Coor.

What is ironic and maddening about this is that, near the University Bookstore, which sells millions of dollars of ND branded merchandise every year in addition to books and school supplies, there is a statue of St. Andre Bessette, the CSC brother from Montreal who was a paragon of hospitality and friendship for travelers and pilgrims. Jenkins, Coor and the other apparatchiks that run ND are the polar opposite of St. Andre.


15 posted on 05/07/2014 8:54:09 AM PDT by nd76
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To: The_Reader_David
The local Bishop complained about the Obama invite and the arrogant priest who was (and I imagine still is) president of Notre Dame ignored his local bishop.

I felt that then that priest was in serious violation of Canon Law.

Of course, there were about 100 bishops/cardinals/archbishops that protested the Obama award at Notre Dame because of his ardent support of abortion...

16 posted on 05/07/2014 8:54:40 AM PDT by topher (Traditional values -- especially family values -- which have been proven over time.)
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To: FamiliarFace

And not one homily will mention this or anything like it this Sunday or any Sunday. Not one parishioner’s incorrect thoughts, beliefs or opinions will be challenged or corrected this Sunday.


17 posted on 05/07/2014 8:56:15 AM PDT by Phillyred
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To: topher

Notre Dame has been incongruously homophilic for a while now. Back when I was there in 1986, if my memory serves me correctly, they successfully covered up an incident where a priest affiliated with the Theology department died under suspicious circumstances (murder? suicide?). He had been involved with gay S&M groups in the area. For some reason, local law enforcement didn’t investigate this for very long....


18 posted on 05/07/2014 8:56:26 AM PDT by DickBrannigan (When did logic become reversed, and right became wrong, and wrong became right?)
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To: topher

What the Daily Caller article doesn’t say, and in fact intentionally obscures, is that the people staffing the table are not Notre Dame students. While a recognized university student group applied for and received the permit, those staffing the table are not members of that group. University policy does not allow outsiders to hand out stuff on campus, which is why they were ordered to stop doing so.


19 posted on 05/07/2014 8:57:16 AM PDT by drjimmy
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To: Phillyred

Pope Francis needs to shut down these institutions one by one until everyone gets in line with correct Catholic teaching. They have become pointless secular institutions.


20 posted on 05/07/2014 8:57:47 AM PDT by Phillyred
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To: topher
The current president of Notre Dame is still:

Father John I. Jenkins, C.S.C.

The Holy Cross priests/brothers run Notre Dame.

21 posted on 05/07/2014 8:57:50 AM PDT by topher (Traditional values -- especially family values -- which have been proven over time.)
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To: drjimmy
They should have told the TFP folks this immediately, and maybe they should have told them the procedures for a table at Notre Dame.

Other articles on this, to my knowledge, did not have this information...

22 posted on 05/07/2014 8:59:40 AM PDT by topher (Traditional values -- especially family values -- which have been proven over time.)
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To: drjimmy
The only article that I found that has those details is:

Outside group protests gay marriage

Note that the title of this article is more a defense of Gay Marriage and comes from a Notre Dame newspaper.

They spin against Traditional Marriage, and they list all the violations by this group.

There may be TFP Student Action members at Notre Dame, and the group should have had them man the table.

But I don't understand why supporting traditional marriage is a protest of Gay Marriage -- unless Gay Marriage is something that should be promoted at a Catholic University.

23 posted on 05/07/2014 9:09:04 AM PDT by topher (Traditional values -- especially family values -- which have been proven over time.)
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To: topher
I was polite but I did not hesitate to tell him that I would never send my grandchildren to Notre Dame or any other Catholic lite university. There are still real Catholic schools out there.
Remember we got into the fix we are in by being polite and not standing up for what we believe in. We just let ourselves be pushed around and tried to “get along” with everyone. Well I am drawing the line. This far and no further.
24 posted on 05/07/2014 9:43:05 AM PDT by prof.h.mandingo (Buck v. Bell (1927) An idea whose time has come (for extreme liberalism))
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To: topher
That article is from the student newspaper at Notre Dame, which is editorially independent from the university. I saw all of the other articles about this incident, and the reason most of them don't mention this information should be obvious, since they are taking the TFP Student Action point of view.

The article in Campus Reform linked to from the Daily Caller article actually has a quote from the Notre Dame spokesman that explains why the group was booted. John Ritchie is being disingenuous when he says he doesn't understand why. The whole "having a table" vs. "sitting at a table" is a red herring, since the distinction under university policy involves "who" is sitting at that table.
25 posted on 05/07/2014 9:44:11 AM PDT by drjimmy
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To: The_Reader_David
"Is it too much to hope that if not the Pope of Rome himself, then at least the local ordinary, will call the administration to account?"

Notre Dame has become a joke, even by secular university standards....

26 posted on 05/07/2014 9:51:26 AM PDT by cookcounty (IRS = Internal Revenge Service.)
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To: drjimmy
John Ritchie is being dishonest on this point, and I would agree with you.

They should not be trying to cause media attention when they are at fault.

Though I am a strong supporter and advocate of Traditional Marriage, and other thing cannot be defined in terms of Marriage.

27 posted on 05/07/2014 10:05:30 AM PDT by topher (Traditional values -- especially family values -- which have been proven over time.)
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To: topher

Satan cackles with glee.


28 posted on 05/07/2014 6:22:27 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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