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Ukrainians form militias to defend nation against chaos
Kyiv Post ^ | May 7, 2014, 11:13 p.m. | Mark Rachkevych

Posted on 05/07/2014 6:21:31 PM PDT by Zhang Fei

In the absence of effective military forces or law enforcement, Ukrainians are taking the defense of the nation in their own hands through loosely organized militias.

One of them popped up in a YouTube video on May 2.

Although the group was unidentified, the clip was posted by a pro-Ukrainian group of former military and law enforcement officers, calling themselves the Donbass Volunteer Battalion. The video shows men armed with Kalashnikov rifles and clad in black ninja outfits dismantling a Kremlin-backed roadblock near Krasnoarmiysk in western Donetsk Oblast.

The national warriors also claim that 15 pro-Russian rebels were handed over to the police and that three Kalashnikovs were recovered.

The group’s leader, Semyon Semenchenko, wrote on his Facebook page that the group is “taking up arms and structuring like the Ukrainian Insurgent Army,” the World War II era partisan group that fought both Nazi Germany and Soviet NKVD units in a futile attempt to gain national independence for Ukraine.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: bandera; ftheeu; graystone; kiev; odessa; rightsector; russia; svoboda; ukraine
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To: DTA

Mass murder Russians? You mean foreign invaders? Or maybe these are Russian forces murdering Ukrainians because they can use chaos to pretend that a secessionist vote passed there too?


21 posted on 05/07/2014 8:33:18 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: GeronL
>>>>> The topic is now defense of a sovereign nation against an invader.<<<<<

. Remember Victoria Nuland's "F' the EU" battle cry?

The Invaders are Neocons who toppled Ukraininian government, installed Neo Nazi thugs in hope to foment the war in Europe.

22 posted on 05/07/2014 8:34:36 PM PDT by DTA
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To: DTA

You are insane. Russia is gobbling up countries rebuilding the USSR. Babbling about neocons installing nazis to power and pretending that a faction that won less than 10% of the vote is running around murdering at random is crazy.


23 posted on 05/07/2014 8:37:14 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: GeronL
You play with words. "Ukraininian" is citizenship as well as ethnicity. There are many Ukraininan citizens who are not Ukrainians by ethnicity, they are Russians, Jews or Poles.Their ancestors lived in Ukraine before "Ukrainians" were invented as ethnicity.

Kievan Rus is the heart of Russia.

Western Ukraine is Polish land, and it was until 1939.

Calling Ukrainian citizens of other ethnic extraction "invaders" is shameful. It borders on Nazism.

Check the history books. It ain't pretty.

24 posted on 05/07/2014 8:42:00 PM PDT by DTA
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To: DTA

Nice to know which side you will be on when the reconquista comes to the southwest US


25 posted on 05/07/2014 8:44:28 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Zhang Fei
Ukrainians form militias to defend nation against chaos


26 posted on 05/07/2014 8:47:08 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: DTA

I did not say the other ethnicities were invaders, but judging how YOU are the one who considers them to be Russian and not Ukrainian isn’t that what you are doing?


27 posted on 05/07/2014 8:48:16 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: GeronL
>>>>>You are insane.....Babbling about neocons installing nazis to power and pretending that a faction that won less than 10% of the vote is running around murdering at random is crazy.<<<<<

Svoboda and Right Sector run Ministry of Interior and two other departments. They ARE Nazis, as their Odessa handiwork shows.

You need this to wash the foul words...

28 posted on 05/07/2014 8:49:51 PM PDT by DTA
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To: DTA
Ukrainians" were invented as ethnicity.

Over 80% of people in Ukraine self identify as being ethnic Ukrainian.

And there is so much more wrong with your posts.

29 posted on 05/07/2014 8:50:00 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: DTA

LoL


30 posted on 05/07/2014 8:51:37 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Zhang Fei

Russia needs that chaos. If the Ukrainians bring any semblance of normality back, watch for Russia to push it back into chaos


31 posted on 05/07/2014 8:54:49 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: DTA

How do we know they weren’t killed by Russia?


32 posted on 05/07/2014 8:55:57 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: GeronL
Imagine living in California and China installing Aztlan junta in power, outlawing English and calling all Californians of Anglo-Saxon extraction "invaders".

USSR was built by Wall-street sponsored Communist thugs. Tens of millions of Russians were murdered. Rusian land was cut into "republics" and Russian people found themselves divided. When USSR got dissolved some 70 years later, millions of Russians found themselves overnight in hostile foreign lands. Even if they were loyal citizens, their human rights were denied.

from this vantage point, the hatred of Russians had nothing to do with the hatred of Communism. It is religious hatred, aimed at annihilating Russians as an ethic group.

The fact that "democratic" EU and U.S. supports the worst scum is an evidence to this claim.

33 posted on 05/07/2014 8:59:23 PM PDT by DTA
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Wall-street created communist Russia? Wow.


34 posted on 05/07/2014 9:01:58 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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>>>>>How do we know they weren’t killed by Russia?<<<<

How about Occam razor?

Right sector was in Odessa, May 2nd.

Right Sector thugs are Caught on "tape".

Odessa is far away from Russian border.

American and Eu MSM keep mum about this genocidal crime.

What is more likely, Right sector murdering off up to 300 Ukrainian citizens who opposed Nazi junta or "Russia"?

The genocidal crime was hushed up by Kiev junta.

If there were grounds to accuse "Russia", how likely is that Kiev Nazi junta and NAT0-controlled media would keep silent?

Russian FM is on record claiming that the perps of this crime will not escape. How likely is that he would raise this issue if "Russia" was the perp?

35 posted on 05/07/2014 9:09:46 PM PDT by DTA
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Svoboda and Right Sector run Ministry of Interior and two other departments. They ARE Nazis, as their Odessa handiwork shows.

The Russians and the Germans each killed millions of Ukrainians. Even if these armed separatists were added to the toll of Russians wrongfully killed by Ukrainians, they are a rounding error of a rounding error, as a % of the millions of Ukrainians deliberately killed by Russians.

36 posted on 05/07/2014 9:15:55 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: GeronL
>>>>Wall-street created communist Russia? Wow.<<<<

If you do not have command of the facts about the events in 1917 that are historical record, you are not qualified to discuss current events that are still fluid.

Ignorance is an ailment that could be cured by learning.

There is no excuse for ignorance in the age of Google.

37 posted on 05/07/2014 9:16:45 PM PDT by DTA
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To: Zhang Fei
>>>>>The Russians and the Germans each killed millions of Ukrainians. Even if these armed separatists were added to the toll of Russians wrongfully killed by Ukrainians, they are a rounding error of a rounding error, as a % of the millions of Ukrainians deliberately killed by Russians.<<<<

What you wrote here is really sick. You advocate genocide against an identifiable ethic group "as such".

38 posted on 05/07/2014 9:21:31 PM PDT by DTA
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Stalin starved to death 5 to 7 million ethnic Ukrainians on the 30's as part of the Holodomor.

The Nazis killed 3 million ethnic Ukrainians during WWII as part Generalplan Ost.

Pretty sick stuff.

Yet you seem to ignore all that history.

39 posted on 05/07/2014 9:37:46 PM PDT by FreeReign
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What you wrote here is really sick. You advocate genocide against an identifiable ethic group "as such".

The deaths of a few dozen people in a building fire at the end of a running street battle in which Ukrainians are killed by gunfire from some of the people in the building = genocide? The deliberate mass starvation of millions of Ukrainians by Russians during the Holodomor was a genocide. The mass killings of millions of civilians (Poles and Ukrainians and 1/2 of the world's Jews) by Germans was a genocide. The casualties of a running street battle are not a genocide.

40 posted on 05/07/2014 9:41:21 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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