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Report: Pentagon Paid $150 Per Gallon for Green Jet Fuel
The Washinton Free Beacon ^ | May 7, 2014 | Lachlan Markay

Posted on 05/07/2014 6:34:09 PM PDT by Kaslin

The Department of Defense (DOD) paid $150 per gallon for alternative jet fuel made from algae, more than 64 times the current market price for standard carbon-based fuels, according to a report released on Wednesday.

The Government Accountability Office (GAO) noted in its report that a Pentagon official reported paying “about $150 per gallon for 1,500 gallons of alternative jet fuel derived from algal oil.”

GAO’s report examined the financial challenges facing increased purchases and use of alternative jet fuels by federal agencies. “Currently, the price for alternative jet fuels exceeds that of conventional jet fuel,” the report noted.

The price for conventional jet fuel is currently $2.88 per gallon. GAO’s report reveals that federal agencies have paid significantly higher prices in an effort to promote biofuels in commercial and military aviation.

(Excerpt) Read more at freebeacon.com ...


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: algae; avgas; boondoggle; cronycommunism; cultureofcorruption; econuts; fuel; green; greenenergy; greenscam; insanity; jetfuel; pentagon; redistribution; waste
If these idiots had to pay the fuel out of their own pockets, they would be more careful how they spend the money.
1 posted on 05/07/2014 6:34:09 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

The DemocRATS just looking out for their envirobuddie$ again. They owe them big time for 2012.


2 posted on 05/07/2014 6:36:07 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Obama's smidgens are coming home to roost.)
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To: Kaslin

Some buddy’s making some pretty significant walking around money in this whole scheme. Follow the money.


3 posted on 05/07/2014 6:36:13 PM PDT by lurk
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To: Kaslin

The question needs to be asked, who is getting money from these companies? What is the connection between those who set up this scam and the owners of the companies?


4 posted on 05/07/2014 6:36:21 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Kaslin

Bump

Insanity


5 posted on 05/07/2014 6:36:26 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Kaslin
“Currently, the price for alternative jet fuels exceeds that of conventional jet fuel,” the report noted.

It darn near exceeds the price of perfume.

6 posted on 05/07/2014 6:36:44 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Kaslin

Socialism Is Legal Plunder - The Law; Bastiat
Everything about socialism is sham and affectation. - 23.11 Ch23 Evil; Economic Harmonies; Bastiat


7 posted on 05/07/2014 6:36:52 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: Kaslin

Logical for testing purposes. Otherwise, idiotic.


8 posted on 05/07/2014 6:37:30 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: lurk; Mastador1

BUMP! BUMP!


9 posted on 05/07/2014 6:37:49 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: Mastador1

How many Dems and their family members are shareholders and board members of these rent-seeking corporations??


10 posted on 05/07/2014 6:37:59 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: GeronL
How many Dems and their family members are shareholders and board members of these rent-seeking corporations??

And how much in donations were paid to whom?

11 posted on 05/07/2014 6:40:49 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Kaslin; Revolting cat!

Was it dolphin safe?


12 posted on 05/07/2014 6:40:56 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The new witchhunt: "Do you NOW, . . . or have you EVER , . . supported traditional marriage?")
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To: Kaslin

I’m actually familiar with one of the truckers that hauled this stuff from the midwest to Langley AFB, VA. He had an armed escort follow him the whole way.


13 posted on 05/07/2014 6:41:24 PM PDT by Portcall24 (aer)
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To: Kaslin; GeronL

Going to need to recalculate the exact cost of those Obama flights.


14 posted on 05/07/2014 6:41:29 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The new witchhunt: "Do you NOW, . . . or have you EVER , . . supported traditional marriage?")
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To: Mastador1

Bump


15 posted on 05/07/2014 6:43:02 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: a fool in paradise

Bump


16 posted on 05/07/2014 6:46:36 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Portcall24

And most likely at the taxpayers expense


17 posted on 05/07/2014 6:47:32 PM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin; zot; 2ndDivisionVet; SandRat

Yep, cut troop strength, closed the commissaries, cut housing allowance, all to pay super-duper premium prices for jet and ship fuel that is “green.” And how much do you want to bet that it is Obama’s environmental loving rich buddies who are making that fuel he is having the military buy?


18 posted on 05/07/2014 6:50:25 PM PDT by GreyFriar ( Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: Kaslin
Jet A at $2.88 must be "Contract Fuel", the special rate the government gets. Back in the mid to late '70's, Contract Jet-A was about $0.17/gallon, IIRC.

AirNav: Fuel Price Report

  100LL Avgas       Jet A       Mogas (auto)      
  FBOs FBOs Avg Min Max FBOs Avg Min Max FBOs Avg Min Max
Nationwide 3603 3509 $5.97 $4.39 $10.85 2512 $5.47 $3.79 $9.51 111 $4.61 $3.78 $7.55

19 posted on 05/07/2014 6:59:14 PM PDT by BwanaNdege ( "...[willful] ignorance is the opiate of academic elites." - Mike Adams [BN edit])
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To: Kaslin

Over $22K for this green jet fuel which would last a few minutes in an aircraft with afterburner. Just wow.


20 posted on 05/07/2014 7:04:35 PM PDT by phormer phrog phlyer
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To: BwanaNdege

Do those numbers include tax?

The 2.88/gal is pretty close to the wholesale untaxed price.


21 posted on 05/07/2014 7:05:24 PM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: Kaslin

No the pentagon did not you me and all the rest of us producers taxpayers did


22 posted on 05/07/2014 7:10:52 PM PDT by al baby (Hi MomÂ…)
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To: Kaslin

Green energy is just another way of plundering the tax payers. A whole lot of someones should go to prison for waste like that.


23 posted on 05/07/2014 7:11:08 PM PDT by pallis
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To: Kaslin; blueyon; KitJ; T Minus Four; xzins; CMS; The Sailor; ab01; txradioguy; Jet Jaguar; ...

Active Duty ping.


24 posted on 05/07/2014 7:12:14 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Resist in place.)
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To: Kaslin

The government doesn’t have to eat its own cooking.


25 posted on 05/07/2014 7:17:17 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: Kaslin

The Pentagon pays an average of $400 to put a gallon of fuel into a combat vehicle or aircraft in Afghanistan.
Pentagon officials have told the House Appropriations Defense Subcommittee a gallon of fuel costs the military about $400 by the time it arrives in the remote locations in Afghanistan where U.S. troops operate.

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/63407-400gallon-gas-another-cost-of-war-in-afghanistan-

A big issue for the Pentagon these days is supply lines that are stretched expensive and vulnerable. It would be better if they could produce energy on the spot rather than ship it long distance. So while $150 per gallon is bad ==$400@ gallon is worse.

(of course they’re not there yet. and by the time the biofuel production plant gets to the point where it can be dropped into remote US base somewhere —the US participation in the afghan war will be over... that said there will be other wars to come.)


26 posted on 05/07/2014 7:18:45 PM PDT by ckilmer
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To: Kaslin

That’s our Big Gubby!!


27 posted on 05/07/2014 7:20:01 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: GreyFriar

Thia is another way to destroy our military and our country.


28 posted on 05/07/2014 8:19:48 PM PDT by zot
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To: Sherman Logan
Logical for testing purposes. Otherwise, idiotic.


$150 per gallon is reasonable for small quantity demonstration and validation lots of fuel.

The big issue is how expensive would such a fuel be in volume production to properly demonstrate viability.

Two things to consider.

At sea an aircraft carrier must have its aviation fuel delivered via military tanker which is pretty damn expensive - it's not like have gas stations in the middle of the Indian Ocean.

One reason why the Navy might be interested in converting algae into jet fuel is that while gas stations and military supply tankers may be in short supply in the middle of the Indian Ocean, one thing that is in bountiful supply is algae.

An onboard algae to fuel conversion plant fueled by an aircraft carriers nuclear power plant could allow a carrier to operate independently it's jets for long periods without re supply at a cost incidental to the operation of the carrier as a whole.

Wars, especially air wars, are won and lost by the supply or lack thereof of fuel.

I'll give this one a pass pending more information

29 posted on 05/07/2014 8:50:40 PM PDT by rdcbn
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To: Kaslin

Stupid.....

You can bet your ass that whatever company this fuel was purchased from were big democrat contributors.


30 posted on 05/07/2014 9:30:26 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: rdcbn

I will add some macro economics to the discussion as opposed to micro economics.

A shoemaker makes 10 shoes a day and makes 10 dollars a shoe or 100 dollars a day.

What happens if the shoemaker works harder and makes 20 shoes a day ?

The answer is 200 dollars in micro economics and less than 200 dollars in macro economics.

If Nike makes 10,000 shoes a day and makes 10 dollars a shoe, they get 100k a day.

What happens if Nike makes 20,000 shoes a day ?

The answer is the price of the shoes falls through the floor and they might make nothing.

Now lets talk about 150 dollar a gallon fuel.

If you need a gallon of gas for your lawn mower and gas station 1 sells it for 5 dollars and gas station 2 sells it for 150 dollars. From a micro economic viewpoint, it is stupid to pay 150 dollars for a gallon of fuel.

Now you are the US military buying 100 million gallons of fuel and Chevron is selling 100 million gallons at 5 dollars a gallon. And Algeaon is selling 1 million at 150 dollars a gallon. Why should you every buy from Algeacon ?

You might want to buy 1 million gallons because you create a glut for Chevron which might lower the price to 3.5 a gallon due to the glut. Oil is always priced at the margin.


31 posted on 05/07/2014 9:38:23 PM PDT by staytrue
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To: Kaslin

Navy Takes Biofuels Campaign Into Uncharted Waters

http://www.nationaldefensemagazine.org/archive/2011/January/Pages/NavyTakesBiofuelsIntoUnchartedWaters.aspx

Since 2006, the Defense Logistics Agency has procured more than 36 million gallons of ethanol-and-petroleum blends for the military. The Navy in September ordered an additional 150,000 gallons of algae-based fuel from San Francisco company Solazyme. The new agreement is seven times the size of the initial 20,000-gallon contract awarded last year. The Navy is paying big bucks for these fuels.

The service consumes an average of 1.2 billion gallons of petroleum each year at a cost of $3 billion — about $2.50 per gallon. The service paid Solazyme $8.5 million to provide just 20,000 gallons of algae-based fuel — $425 per gallon. At that rate, it would cost the Navy some $142.8 billion for the 8 million barrels of biofuel needed to meet its 2020 goal.

Camelina-based fuel is a bit cheaper but still more expensive than petroleum. In September 2009 the DLA’s defense energy support center paid Montana’s Sustainable Oils $2.7 million for 40,000 gallons of camelina-based fuel. That comes to about $67.50 per gallon.


32 posted on 05/07/2014 9:47:31 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: nascarnation
Do those numbers include tax?

The 2.88/gal is pretty close to the wholesale untaxed price.

I would guess that they do include the tax. I haven't bought any fuel in a long, long time.

Federal taxes are Avgas $0.193 Jet-A $0.204.

State taxes vary widely. State Taxes in Aviation Fuels

33 posted on 05/08/2014 5:05:22 AM PDT by BwanaNdege ( "...[willful] ignorance is the opiate of academic elites." - Mike Adams [BN edit])
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To: Portcall24

3000 gallon fuel truck at $150.00 per gallon is $450,000 a truckload.

Is there any other ways this administration can squander taxpayer money???


34 posted on 05/08/2014 7:53:00 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: All
The USSA regime, dismantles our military, turns it into a gay parade and wastes the remaining allocated money on crony socialist _green_ fuels. It's a lose/lose situation for USAians who pay for this all. Meanwhile they turn the bureaucrats into fully armed political armies.
35 posted on 05/08/2014 8:10:08 AM PDT by veracious
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To: Kaslin

This makes me think of Gabby Giffords for some reason.


36 posted on 05/08/2014 8:13:53 AM PDT by petitfour
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To: Kaslin

Would a jet run on twelve year old scotch? It would be cheaper than Algal Oil jet fuel.


37 posted on 05/08/2014 8:40:24 AM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: Kaslin

Do we really want to put a price on our future Earth? It is for the children afterall.......lol. I just can’t help myself.


38 posted on 05/08/2014 10:21:15 AM PDT by napscoordinator (Governor Scott Walker 2016 for the future of the country!)
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To: BwanaNdege

Holy Cow. Texas is robbing the aviators. 20 percent?????


39 posted on 05/08/2014 10:29:10 AM PDT by napscoordinator (Governor Scott Walker 2016 for the future of the country!)
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To: Kaslin

The story does not tell you that Obama has ordered them to do it.Its the environment don’t you know


40 posted on 05/08/2014 10:38:47 AM PDT by ballplayer
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To: napscoordinator

Texas $0.20 per gallon tax, not 20%.

Still awful high!


41 posted on 05/08/2014 6:09:12 PM PDT by BwanaNdege ( "...[willful] ignorance is the opiate of academic elites." - Mike Adams [BN edit])
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