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I-Team: Mayor's motorcade caught on tape (Rahm Emmanuel running red lights)
Eyewitness News ABC 7 ^ | May 7, 2014 | Ben Bradley

Posted on 05/08/2014 6:37:19 AM PDT by heartwood

May 5, 2014 (CHICAGO) (WLS) -- Red lights? Speed limits? They're apparently not a problem if you are driving the mayor of the city of Chicago.

Despite Rahm Emanuel's contention that red light and speed cameras are "all about safety," the ABC7 Eyewitness News I-Team learned those same cameras regularly catch the mayor's motorcade running red and speeding.

The city's website catalogs all red light and speed camera violations regardless of who you are.

The I-Team ran the plates of the two city vehicles in which Emanuel is chauffeured around Chicago. Since 2012, the cameras have caught the mayor's motorcade speeding near schools and parks or running red lights nearly two dozen times.

(Excerpt) Read more at abclocal.go.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; US: Illinois
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Laws are for the little people.

Surprising the Machine hasn't edited the records.

1 posted on 05/08/2014 6:37:19 AM PDT by heartwood
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nearly two dozen times

Certainly it was accidental, you know, like accidently shooting someone five times.

2 posted on 05/08/2014 6:43:27 AM PDT by PistolPaknMama
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To: heartwood

Laws don’t apply to the emperor of Chicago.


3 posted on 05/08/2014 6:54:50 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: heartwood

Exactly. Welcome to the world we are all heading toward, where the average serf just pays his taxes and keeps his mouth shut while the government officials and the well-connected get to live in luxury and violate laws at their whim. This is exactly how feudal society operated.


4 posted on 05/08/2014 7:09:08 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: heartwood

It is common practice for high officials to practice measures akin to funeral processions when going about town. I doubt they went about this with reckless abandon. This is some ado about little.


5 posted on 05/08/2014 7:09:48 AM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: heartwood

Rushing to the scene of the latest Chicago shooting...no, over here...oops, over here...nope, now over here...


6 posted on 05/08/2014 7:12:11 AM PDT by twister881
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To: Fester Chugabrew

It may have BECOME “common practice”, but it is by no means acceptable just because of one’s position...

No person should be above the law...NONE.


7 posted on 05/08/2014 7:14:19 AM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: heartwood

Some animals are more equal than others.


8 posted on 05/08/2014 7:15:48 AM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: SZonian
-- No person should be above the law...NONE. --

The people who write the laws usually write in exceptions, for themselves, for other government officials, etc. That way, they can say that are acting within the law, even though the law is written so that it doesn't apply to them. If there is an oversight, the courts write in the exception for them.

9 posted on 05/08/2014 7:17:24 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: heartwood

Late for the Wednesday Special at Man’s Country


10 posted on 05/08/2014 7:17:31 AM PDT by twister881
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To: Fester Chugabrew

Thugs shouldn’t get a pass simply because their despotic behavior is common.


11 posted on 05/08/2014 7:19:32 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: heartwood
Before I retired, I worked 2nd shift. On the way home one night, I was crusin' at a steady 70 on the Tollway when I was passed on the rt. shoulder by a convoy all lit up with red flashing lights. Yup it was former Gov. Rod Bag-O'-Shits on his way home from a fund-raiser.
12 posted on 05/08/2014 7:21:54 AM PDT by Petruchio (Democrats are like Slinkies... Not good for anything, but it's fun pushing 'em down the stairs.)
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To: SZonian

It is a matter of efficiency and expedience that higher authorities are accorded exceptions in matters such as this. I take no offense whatsoever if my mayor must use a quicker process to get from one place to another. There are other displays of arrogance and abuse from high officials that are worth braying about, but simply attempting to be expeditious with official business is not one of them.


13 posted on 05/08/2014 7:36:01 AM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Fester Chugabrew

We’ll just have to agree to disagree...


14 posted on 05/08/2014 7:38:20 AM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: heartwood

I can’t believe a mainstream media outlet would do this. Rahm must have crossed somebody who outranks him in the Rat party.


15 posted on 05/08/2014 7:41:55 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Fester Chugabrew

The “higher authorities” should live entirely under the laws the rest of us must follow. Waiting at stop lights just might instill a little idea of ordinary person’s commute.

Non-emergency exceptions just pump up the arrogance and privileged feeling of those who most need lessons in humility.


16 posted on 05/08/2014 7:45:01 AM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: hoosierham

My remarks are in consideration of the office, not the man. They are also in consideration for the mundane, yet intractable fact that higher authorities often need to take care of business quickly. To make this a matter of grave offense and publish it as such is going too far. Good heavens. There are so many other areas where the law is flouted by these miscreants, starting with bribes and gross injustice. This is what one might call “straining at a gnat and swallowing a camel.” At the same time, I can empathize with umbrage taken when they enjoy a quicker traffic experience than the common man.

Some want us all to be commoners. That is entirely against nature and rule of law. To fail in distinguishing one authority over another and making them do the exact same thing when it comes to driving actually has the effect of making us all commoners rather than honoring those who, by reason of elected office, truly do have greater privilege and authority.


17 posted on 05/08/2014 8:08:26 AM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: heartwood

Be interesting to see how this all comes out in the event of an accident.


18 posted on 05/08/2014 8:26:27 AM PDT by oldtech
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To: heartwood

All over the United States these days, our political commissar betters have adopted the belief that law is only for the proles.


19 posted on 05/08/2014 8:48:24 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: Fester Chugabrew

What "rule of law" are you speaking of?

There is no law stating the the mayor of Chicago does not have to stop at red lights, or that his motorcade can flaunt speed limits.

Elected office only has as much dignity as those who hold it can maintain trust of the people. The people have not surrendered their powers to magistrates, but instead have delegated those powers, without loss of their own rights under the law.

Elected office is not for assumed "perks" which place those individuals who are elected to office under other sets of laws, or else all are not equal under the law.

The assumption that they are not, that elected officials are above laws applicable to everyone else --- that is akin to the thinking of feudal lords of Europe.

Get your mind right, Fester.

20 posted on 05/08/2014 9:15:39 AM PDT by BlueDragon (The Democrats think they are deck officers and our betters, but they cannae tie a bowline)
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To: BlueDragon

The “rule of law” of which I speak is that which distinguishes one office over another and grants privileges not common to all. It’s not that complicated, sir.


21 posted on 05/08/2014 9:36:04 AM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: heartwood

Slackers if they have only been notds less than 24 times since 2012.


22 posted on 05/08/2014 9:41:26 AM PDT by deport
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To: heartwood

The only thing that surprises me in this story is that Tiny Dancer wasn’t being chauffeured around in a Zil.


23 posted on 05/08/2014 9:42:41 AM PDT by Stosh
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To: BlueDragon

For cryin’ out loud, it’s an official motorcade!! “Man, those people in funeral processions, why do they get to run all the red light’s too? They should follow the law like everybody else. Who do they think they are?”


24 posted on 05/08/2014 9:55:44 AM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Fester Chugabrew
Are there laws on the books concerning funeral processions and stoplights?

Fine, if there are.

Are there any laws on the books saying that the Mayor of Chicago does not have to stop at red lights, and can ignore speed limits?

Show those last to me, or shut up. You argue like liberal

25 posted on 05/08/2014 10:00:54 AM PDT by BlueDragon (The Democrats think they are deck officers and our betters, but they cannae tie a bowline)
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To: Fester Chugabrew

I was just in a funeral procession. We stopped at stop signs; we stopped at red lights. We slowed down in the right lane and let the tail end catch up.

Mayors and governors break the traffic laws on the way to baseball games, fundraisers, glad handing appearances. It is seldom that they are on there way to emergency meetings or legislative sessions. No, they consider their time simply more important than anyone else’s and they have made their schedules accordingly.

When NJ Gov. Corzine had his accident, his lights-and-sirens entourage was travelling 91 mph, ran a startled motorist off the road on to the shoulder, and then swerved. What EMERGENCY was Corzine going to? Well he was going to facilitate a kiss-and-make-up-grovel-and-study session between Don Imus and the Rutgers women’s basketball team. I’m just glad it was Corzine who was hurt and not the poor schmoe they ran off the road.


26 posted on 05/08/2014 10:07:27 AM PDT by heartwood
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To: heartwood

I saw a funeral procession during my lunch hour. Pulled over while they went right through a red light. Must be a regional phenomenon.

Legislators and public officials routinely enjoy a more efficient traffic experience because they hold an office that is to be honored and upheld by the people. Begrudging them this small courtesy makes us sound like the lefties who cannot stand to see anyone prosper or get ahead.


27 posted on 05/08/2014 2:24:28 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: BlueDragon

I’m checking into the codes, sir. Meanwhile, I suppose you whine every time you see a citizen who does not come to a full stop at every stop light and exceeds the speed limit by 1 mile an hour. Well, let’s make a federal case our of Mayor Emanuel’s traffic habits and ignore his penchant for corruption.


28 posted on 05/08/2014 2:26:27 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: BlueDragon

Here you go:


(625 ILCS 5/11-205) (from Ch. 95 1/2, par. 11-205)
Sec. 11-205. Public officers and employees to obey Act-Exceptions.
(a) The provisions of this Chapter applicable to the drivers of vehicles upon the highways shall apply to the drivers of all vehicles owned or operated by the United States, this State or any county, city, town, district or any other political subdivision of the State, except as provided in this Section and subject to such specific exceptions as set forth in this Chapter with reference to authorized emergency vehicles.
(b) The driver of an authorized emergency vehicle, when responding to an emergency call or when in the pursuit of an actual or suspected violator of the law or when responding to but not upon returning from a fire alarm, may exercise the privileges set forth in this Section, but subject to the conditions herein stated.
(c) The driver of an authorized emergency vehicle may:
1. Park or stand, irrespective of the provisions of

this Chapter;

2. Proceed past a red or stop signal or stop sign,

but only after slowing down as may be required and necessary for safe operation;

3. Exceed the maximum speed limits so long as he does

not endanger life or property;

4. Disregard regulations governing direction of

movement or turning in specified directions.

(d) The exceptions herein granted to an authorized emergency vehicle, other than a police vehicle, shall apply only when the vehicle is making use of either an audible signal when in motion or visual signals meeting the requirements of Section 12-215 of this Act.
(e) The foregoing provisions do not relieve the driver of an authorized emergency vehicle from the duty of driving with due regard for the safety of all persons, nor do such provisions protect the driver from the consequences of his reckless disregard for the safety of others.
(f) Unless specifically made applicable, the provisions of this Chapter, except those contained in Section 11-204 and Articles IV and V of this Chapter, shall not apply to persons, motor vehicles and equipment while actually engaged in work upon a highway but shall apply to such persons and vehicles when traveling to or from such work.
(Source: P.A. 89-710, eff. 2-14-97; 90-257, eff. 7-30-97.)


As to whether Rahm’s motorcade met the specific requirements in terms of safety (lights and sound), I don’t think he went about it recklessly, but others may differ. If you want to sue for information regarding whether or not an emergency was involved, feel free.

You know what sounds like a lefty? Whining about things that are of little consequence and detesting the fact that certain people have certain privileges on account of their office.


29 posted on 05/08/2014 2:37:51 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Fester Chugabrew
The law you bring testifies against you.

I already knew the laws for other states which read similar.

Where again is this privilege you talk about? It is ASSUMED to be there, when it is not. It's certainly not in evidence in what you bring.

There was no "emergency" which the mayor needed to attend in the normal course of his own duties. It56's not up to me or anyone else to "sue" to find out.

Going about his normal governmental admin functions, or to political meetings, or being on time for his massage at Man's Country, don't count.

You are the whiner here. You got caught bowing as a peasant, and now seem to demand that I do the same to help ease the public embarrassment I caused you for pointing it out.

30 posted on 05/08/2014 7:08:38 PM PDT by BlueDragon
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To: BlueDragon

On the contrary, the Illinois Code testifies in my favor. The Mayor of Chicago has privileges you do not have. Does that bother you? Are you surprised?


31 posted on 05/08/2014 7:35:12 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Fester Chugabrew

One of the prnciples of my America is “all men are created equal..”.

Now one might hold an important office with great power,and with that great power should come rsponsibilty in all things.

Shutting down the transportation networks and inconveniencing tens of thousands when a president comes to town for fundraising is elitist bullshit regardless of party affiliation.Mayors and governors running in high speed convoys and running red lights for routine business just bolsters their smugness for no good reason.

One of the reasons this nation is in such a mess is the arrogance and sense of entitlemen felt by too many recipients of a government paycheck.From the punk cop so quick to shoot and kill an old lady to the punk president who is killing coal mining and affordable electric,all the people ned to be reminded that they are not exempt from the laws of man or God.

And the same for the moneed sports star ,entertainer,or whomever.

The American Revolution was fought to throw off the system of “our betters” running our lives.


32 posted on 05/08/2014 7:47:19 PM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: Fester Chugabrew

What?!
Are you saying the mayor’s limo is an authorized emergency vehicle?

May your chains rest lightly upon you and may we forget we ever knew you.”


33 posted on 05/08/2014 7:53:31 PM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: hoosierham

We do not know what was “authorized” in Rahm’s case, do we? Feel free to get all bent out of shape over this. Officials running red lights is not my cup of tea when it comes to bitching about abuses of power.


34 posted on 05/08/2014 8:10:52 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Fester Chugabrew
You can make all the empty claims you wish. But there is no "there" there.

Rahm Emanuel does not have the privilege of running red lights and ignoring speed limits. He's not a cop responding to an "emergency" or a fireman, or his limo an ambulance responding to an emergency. He is merely an elected official.

Since when is routine travel for a mayor "an emergency"? The law you brought does not make the exceptions you are looking for. Perhaps somewhere else in code of law you could be able to find what you are looking for? Keep looking.

But so far, can you tell that by law, that when not responding to an emergency, and/or using lights/sirens, that police vehicles, including patrol vehicles are by law required to observe traffic laws?

Some states spell that part out better. That this aspect of law is rarely enforced in respect to law enforcement patrol vehicles does not make it "legal".

As it is, I'm not sure if you can't admit to being wrong, or if you are actually stupid enough to think you are correct.

Either way...not exactly the sharpest knife in the drawer, are you?

Bow, peasant, bow.

Like hoosierham said,


35 posted on 05/08/2014 8:13:29 PM PDT by BlueDragon
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To: BlueDragon; hoosierham

meant to include you since I mentioned your name.


36 posted on 05/08/2014 8:14:28 PM PDT by BlueDragon
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To: BlueDragon; hoosierham

I do find it ironic that you and hoosierham would lecture me about “chains” when it is you who would not allow for the slightest civil departure for the sake of official expedience and efficiency. It is one occasion where the red tape can be cut, and here you are hankering for its enforcement. Go figure.


37 posted on 05/08/2014 8:26:30 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: BlueDragon

It’s an official motorcade, not Rahm driving around town with his ballerina bimbos. Get it?


38 posted on 05/08/2014 8:28:36 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: BlueDragon; hoosierham

Let me try to put it another way.

There is a certain amount of latitude we ought to grant to civil authorities so they can go about their business, because they occupy offices that are for the benefit of a wider population. Dad makes the rule: “Don’t run in the house.” But Dad may break his own rule to serve his household. Since I am not privy to the conditions under which Rahm’s motorcade had to get somewhere, I have no idea how to assess things. But I do know this: in the scheme of things it simply does not frost my bagel to see an official motorcade run red lights.

I totally understand there are abuses, and Emanuel can easily be made a case in point. I also count you both as fierce defenders of liberty and do not fault you for pointing out the air of hypocrisy that attends to any and every unnecessary flouting of law. It is unfortunate that our mutual tones have led to some acrimony.

My entire point is to place a check on the tendency to reject legitimate authority and the privileges that attend to it, and to stress the fact that there really are occasions when running a red light may be the better course of action.

Lastly, as you probably have sensed by now, this is relatively low on my list of abuses we suffer together under the current administration.

God bless you both. We really are on the same side, yet, as another has put it, we may agree to disagree on this point.


39 posted on 05/08/2014 8:42:21 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: BlueDragon
. . . not exactly the sharpest knife in the drawer, are you?

Absolutely not. Are you?

40 posted on 05/08/2014 8:45:23 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: BlueDragon

Is it not a bit ludicrous to think that a guy whose office effects millions of people should not (despite all derelictions on his part) be accorded the courtesy of getting from one side of town to the other in an official motorcade without the obstructions the people whom he serves must deal with from day to day? You can bet there are people in the state who have “authorized” such behavior, and for good reason. Besides, it get’s his derelict a$$ out of the way that much quicker.

It is the Office of the Mayor of Chicago. The Office deserves respect. Respect begets privileges, albeit circumscribed, for even the Mayor of Chicago is forbidden by law to endanger the citizenry with his motorcade(s). Running through red lights is a small privilege.

What kind of citizenry would want to see the Mayor of Chicago slapped with fines and frog-marched over his official motorcade running red lights? A citizenry both petty and uneducated; the same kind Rahm Emanuel depends on for re-election.


41 posted on 05/08/2014 9:05:27 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Fester Chugabrew

No. Lacking some retraction on your part, I'm not willing to just "let you put it another way" when that includes assumption of privilege which is then abused. Small-time corruption, almost negligible, but it was enough for Rahm's office to apologize over, which rather undoes your own excuses for the creep.

Not interested in your further opinions or excuses.

You don't know me in the least. You have guessed wrong, about what you don't know about.

42 posted on 05/08/2014 9:23:49 PM PDT by BlueDragon
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To: BlueDragon

The abuse of a privilege does not negate its legitimacy. You ought to know that, as little as I know you.


43 posted on 05/08/2014 10:03:31 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Fester Chugabrew
He does not have the privilege under the law.

Look elsewhere.

44 posted on 05/08/2014 10:53:54 PM PDT by BlueDragon (The world isn't Crazy. It's just the people in it...)
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To: BlueDragon; hoosierham

This may or may not convince you, but today I called the Illinois Vehicle Code people, who in turn took the question to the Illinois State Police liaison. They said that the code I cited below (625 ILCS 5/11-205) precisely governs the Mayor of Chicago’s circumstances, and that his motorcade vehicles by law are treated as squad cars. He is thereby exempt from being penalized for his supposed infractions.

If you want the phone number it’s not hard to find. Pat was gracious in taking a considerable amount of time to ascertain the nature of things and send it up the food chain for evaluation. The response time was several hours.

I also took time to look at the video, read the story, and evaluate further whether this really merits all the hubbub put forth by WLS-TV, who care not a wit to dig up any really dirt on Rahm, but would instead incite the peons to a sense of “unfairness,” when in truth there are times when public officials are, and ought to be, accorded special privileges.


45 posted on 05/09/2014 1:10:14 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Fester Chugabrew

Maybe if the officials realize how bad the chains are then those chains will be loosened if not cut.


46 posted on 05/09/2014 2:38:39 PM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: hoosierham

To respect and honor proper authority is not a great burden, or “chain.” Red lights are a proper authority, but we are not so subservient to them that we obey them to a “T.” Emanuel has since ordered his body guards to be more circumspect. This is an area - a small one - where some give and take is both needed and helpful.


47 posted on 05/09/2014 2:59:04 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Fester Chugabrew; hoosierham
There are no "special privileges" afforded to Rahm under the law.

No, he is not. Technically, neither are "squad cars" exempt, except for under the proscribed conditions. This is where the door for abuse is opened, for there is otherwise no need for the mayor to be traveling in a "police vehicle" unless the little ballerina was under arrest, though somewhere in city filings or charter, it is likely provision has been made to turn the CPD into mayoral office bodyguards and provide transportation. That transportation itself is not what is narrowly being objected to, but rather the scofflaw approach.

That police are not given tickets for breaking the traffic laws when they break them needlessly, is yet another matter. Again, it is very near to precisely there, that the abuse of law begins (in instances such as this).

But they CAN get ticketed when or if not operating under the stipulated conditions. Like --- they cannot just decide to turn on their siren -- because they don't want to stop at a red light. But cops do this at times, not always justifiably so, under the law.

Read this part again

(b) The driver of an authorized emergency vehicle, when responding to an emergency call or when in the pursuit of an actual or suspected violator of the law or when responding to but not upon returning from a fire alarm, may exercise the privileges set forth in this Section, but subject to the conditions herein stated.
Getting to a meeting, even an officially scheduled government function, such as a City Council meeting IS NOT AN EMERGENCY.

Beating the traffic, getting to his office a few minutes sooner, IS NOT AN EMERGENCY.

Being on-time for Rahm's pedicure, IS NOT AN EMERGENCY.

What actual EMERGENCY would require the mayor of Chicago to need himself respond as a first responder? When would a mayor's motorcade ever be in "hot pursuit" of a fleeing criminal?

Just turning on lights and siren is not enough. There must be some emergency, some chase, etc., as stipulated by law.

All this free rent I've been enjoying in your head, is still too damn high

48 posted on 05/09/2014 3:29:11 PM PDT by BlueDragon (The world isn't Crazy. It's just the people in it...)
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To: BlueDragon

I have consulted Illinois legal authorities on this very subject and text of law, and they differ from your assessment. The privileges accorded emergency vehicles extend to municipal officials provided they take appropriate measures, which they have. Even WLS has a follow up story to the same effect. Surely it does not bother you that people who are granted authority also have some latitude for the sake of the expedient exercise of their office. Were you raised to despise proper authority? Are you a Libertarian? Have you changed the bong water since last month?


49 posted on 05/09/2014 3:40:35 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Fester Chugabrew

Red lights are a traffic control device,not a proper authority.

Most criminals work they way from minor to major offenses,so as former New York mayor Guliani(?) demonstrated, cracking down on littering and loitering in Times Square reduced more srious rime as well.

My concern regarding “authorities” abuses of power and privileges is that as they grow accustomed to disregard minor laws they will be emboldened to ignore major laws.

I ticketed self-important stop sign runners in my time and heard their BS.The laws of physics don’t care about respecting authority when the “important official” causes a collision or is struck by the vehicle with the right-of-way.Flipping on lights and sirens at the last second to justify official running the traffic control is a dangerous and despicable habit.I personally observed an officer in an unmarked car run a stop sign (with other traffic both vehicular and pedestrian present)while talking on a handheld cellphone in a city crass enough to have little signs bolted just under the stop sign denoting the $ amount of the fine for running said sign . Most crashes I have seen and too many fatal ones were at intersections,and someone’s attitude of being in too big a hurry to wait meant someone never got to go home!!


50 posted on 05/09/2014 4:12:32 PM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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