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HHS reports O-Care cut into hospital deaths
thehill.com ^ | may 7, 2014 | Ferdous Al-Faruque

Posted on 05/08/2014 9:55:24 AM PDT by lowbridge

The Obama administration on Wednesday claimed the new healthcare law helped cut the number of deaths in hospitals by 15,000 in 2012.

Data from the Department of Health and Human Services also found about $4 billion in savings compared to the previous year.

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The report also found while 30-day Medicare hospital readmission held at a steady 19 percent between 2007 and 2011 that number dropped to 17.5 percent by 2013. According to HHS that meant 150,000 fewer hospital readmissions among Medicare beneficiaries between January 2012 and December 2013.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 0carenightmare; obamacare; obamacarehospitals; obamacarelies; obamacarepropaganda
Heres the real reason why for the 30 day readmission drop that the article fails to mention:

Under the Affordable Care Act's Hospital Readmissions Reduction Program, hospitals that readmit "excessive" numbers of Medicare patients within 30 days of discharge now face significant penalties. The maximum penalty is 1% of a hospital's Medicare reimbursement, but that will increase to 3% in 2015

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424127887323741004578418993777612184

1 posted on 05/08/2014 9:55:24 AM PDT by lowbridge
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I guess they’re sending them home to die, or not even admitting them to begin with...


2 posted on 05/08/2014 9:56:27 AM PDT by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (I'm not anti-government, government's anti-me.)
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Lips moving out comes lies


3 posted on 05/08/2014 9:57:08 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: lowbridge

And almost no one died in Soviet hospitals’ cancer wards.


4 posted on 05/08/2014 9:57:12 AM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: lowbridge

Yeah....I can believe that - sure. All of it. True!

The reason is ObamaCare ain’t paying for hospital stays longer than a fart, and the peeps are being sent HOME to die.


5 posted on 05/08/2014 9:57:26 AM PDT by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
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To: ZirconEncrustedTweezers

No un-authorized deaths will be allowed without prior approval of the “Health committee”.


6 posted on 05/08/2014 9:57:35 AM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Nascarian. Race: Daytonafivehundrian)
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To: lowbridge
When I was incarcerted in a hospital, they kept me until the insurance company got on their case. I can't imagine why a senior would want to stay in a hospital any longer than necessary....they're germ factories.

If the gov is now saying "cut back on the unnecessary days", less people will die because of the hospital.

7 posted on 05/08/2014 9:59:23 AM PDT by grania
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8 posted on 05/08/2014 9:59:45 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: lowbridge

“Lower hospital deaths”

More people are dying at home due to the delays in seeing a doctor for treatment.


9 posted on 05/08/2014 10:00:24 AM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.)
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To: lowbridge

Strange that they can provide a number for a “reduction in deaths” but yet can’t provide a real number for individuals that have enrolled in Obamacare and paid a premium.


10 posted on 05/08/2014 10:00:54 AM PDT by A_Tradition_Continues (formerly known as Politicalwit ...05/28/98 Class of '98)
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To: ZirconEncrustedTweezers

Contestant to Alex Trebec: What is die at home?

That’s right!!!!! We have a winner!!!!!


11 posted on 05/08/2014 10:01:10 AM PDT by the anti-mahdi
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To: lowbridge

So they died at home. Tricks with numbers. It’s what they do.


12 posted on 05/08/2014 10:01:18 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: lowbridge
The Obama administration on Wednesday claimed the new healthcare law helped cut the number of deaths...

well, as long as it's a credible source...who are we to argue? (obvious sarcasm)

13 posted on 05/08/2014 10:01:39 AM PDT by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: lowbridge

soon no one will ever die. Thank you Barack, Thank you! /s/


14 posted on 05/08/2014 10:02:36 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: lowbridge

Had Obamacare even gone into effect in 2012?


15 posted on 05/08/2014 10:02:46 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: lowbridge
So we pay the HHS ONE TRILLION DOLLARS PER YEAR to be a propaganda spokesman for Obama and Obamakill?

Kill the HHS and cut the $4 trillion government beast down by 80% before they kills us.

16 posted on 05/08/2014 10:02:57 AM PDT by PapaNew
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To: lowbridge
If you don’t admit people they don't die in the hospital.

Home deaths are not included in these numbers, just like those who are not seeking work aren't wrapped up in the unemployment numbers..

17 posted on 05/08/2014 10:04:10 AM PDT by Gamecock (The covenant is a stunning blend of law and love. (TK))
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To: lowbridge

Amazing it has managed to do all these things. Just wait until the numbers after it actually took affect come in. The only possible number they could have would be for the first few months of the year. How can they claim anything for 2012 when it wasn’t even in effect then? What exactly was in effect other than keep kids on until 26? Actual policies were not in place until the 1st of this year.


18 posted on 05/08/2014 10:04:21 AM PDT by pas
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helped cut the number of deaths in hospitals by 15,000 in 2012


Duh. Who can afford to go to the hospital to die these days?


19 posted on 05/08/2014 10:05:17 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: ZirconEncrustedTweezers; All

Patients come in and are placed on ‘observation’ status in the ER. They are NOT admitted particularly if they have been in the hospital within the last 30 days. They are stabilized and sent home and them home health (which is seeing massive cuts and hence people leaving in droves) has to deal with them.

It is a similar version of what the VA is doing in Phoenix and Fort Collins. As long as the paper work doesn’t reflect it, it doesn’t exist


20 posted on 05/08/2014 10:11:49 AM PDT by Nifster
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21 posted on 05/08/2014 10:17:45 AM PDT by b4its2late (A Progressive is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: Nifster
A lot of the patients who get readmitted within 30 days to the hospital have social issues that impact their disease, and that is why they are frequent flyer's. If they are sick enough not to be on observation status,and warrant a hospital admit- they get transferred more readily to a nursing home which lessens the impact of readmits. It would be interesting to see if the number of nursing home admissions has increased. This new rule on readmits may have a side effect of increasing nursing home usage, and the hospitals pushing that option on the patients more aggressively. Overall, it will not decrease healthcare costs.
22 posted on 05/08/2014 10:20:00 AM PDT by kaila
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To: lowbridge

Such a statistic can never be proven. People die, and whether their death could have been prevented is often merely subjective.

This is just more feel-good Stalin era propaganda.


23 posted on 05/08/2014 10:21:05 AM PDT by lurk
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To: lowbridge

BTTT for the truth!


24 posted on 05/08/2014 10:23:13 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: lowbridge

Did ObamaNoCare shut down lots of hospitals, thus the statistic?


25 posted on 05/08/2014 11:48:54 AM PDT by bkopto (Free men are not equal. Equal men are not free.)
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To: kaila

Here where my daughter practices, nursing homes are NOT being used. Patients are sent home TOO SOON because medicare doesn’t cover long stays. Home based care does the best they can with all types of patients but some of these patients should not have been sent home....maybe not even to a SNF (which is really I think what you mean by nursing home) because there just aren’t as many of those as one would think.

We agree on the following “Overall, it will not decrease health care costs”. The ACA wasn’t designed to produce good health care at reasonable costs. It was designed to give O all the power he could possibly grab. IF he actually leaves office, it will be incumbent on the next president to deescalate (that is assuming that conservatives manage to win the WH)


26 posted on 05/08/2014 12:07:01 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Nifster

Maybe not in your daughters area, but I have read articles in which hospitals are pushing their patients ( who meet inpatient acuity and have been in the hospital 3 midnights) into SNF s because it reduces their risk of a return admission. However, that only applies to the patients who meet the inpatient criteria. Medicare has made a 48 hour observation rule on all patients admitted to the hospital( in which all insurance companies now follow- if Medicare makes a rule by law that rule applies to everyone) which makes it hard for patients to meet the criteria for an SNF because If you are an observation patient, you do not qualify for an SNF. If we had Republican politicians who had an ounce of intelligence, they should be screaming this fact about Obamacare to the elderly population, but they do not.


27 posted on 05/08/2014 2:40:55 PM PDT by kaila
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To: kaila

Your comments about observation to SNF is exactly correct.

I believe part of why this area (northern Georgia) has more of the home based care incidents is because there are fewer SNFs here so home based care is what the docs order.

I think we agree that what is happening to patient care is atrocious and driven by the government meddling into health care based on O’s power grab.


28 posted on 05/08/2014 7:55:55 PM PDT by Nifster
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