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Russian aircraft carrier sails into English Channel
telegraph. ^ | May 8, 2014 | Ben Farmer

Posted on 05/08/2014 12:53:39 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey

A Russian aircraft carrier task group has sailed into the English Channel under escort by a Royal Navy warship. HMS Dragon met the Russian warships in the south western approaches to the Channel on Wednesday and is shadowing them as they are expected to head into the North Sea and back to Russia. The heavy carrier Admiral Kuznetsov is accompanied by the nuclear-powered Kirov class cruiser Peter the Great and several support ships after a five-month mission to the Mediterranean.

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1 posted on 05/08/2014 12:53:39 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey
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To: MeshugeMikey

This can’t be good.


2 posted on 05/08/2014 12:54:19 PM PDT by jmacusa
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To: MeshugeMikey
There's been a pattern in the last few weeks of Russian ships and planes buzzing near NATO territory and assets.

What's not good is if there is no push-back.

3 posted on 05/08/2014 12:57:12 PM PDT by AU72
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To: jmacusa

Coming Soon to the Long Island Sound..the Erie Canal...and the Great Lakes


4 posted on 05/08/2014 12:57:37 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: jmacusa

“... This can’t be good ...”
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It is quite normal, actually.


5 posted on 05/08/2014 12:58:19 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: MeshugeMikey

If it gets close enough to shore, Hussein and Hillary can throw “reset” buttons at it.


6 posted on 05/08/2014 12:58:45 PM PDT by Dagnabitt (Amnesty is Treason. Its agents are Traitors.)
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To: jmacusa

Yeah, I’m waiting for a USS Maine moment involving somebody’s ship. Too many nations challenging each other for something to not happen.


7 posted on 05/08/2014 12:59:17 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Bible Summary in a few verses: John 14:6, John 6:29, Romans 10:9-10)
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To: AU72

8 posted on 05/08/2014 12:59:18 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Dagnabitt

Barry can Hurl both his Phone and his Pen...


9 posted on 05/08/2014 12:59:56 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: jmacusa

Returning from a 5-month deployment to the Med. They’re headed home.


10 posted on 05/08/2014 1:00:07 PM PDT by Tallguy
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To: MeshugeMikey

A direct result of electing a weak President in 2008. There will be more of this.


11 posted on 05/08/2014 1:01:04 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Obama lied; our healthcare died.)
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To: MeshugeMikey

Putin is waving the Red Flag in the face of the weakling Barack Al-Obama.


12 posted on 05/08/2014 1:02:38 PM PDT by 2harddrive
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To: HereInTheHeartland

True. Same with China’s aggression in the Phillipines.


13 posted on 05/08/2014 1:02:53 PM PDT by Rennes Templar
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To: MeshugeMikey

Long Island, maybe.
Width is gonna scrape getting through the Welland Canal.


14 posted on 05/08/2014 1:06:12 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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To: MeshugeMikey

Good opportunity for pictures.

I would done a flyby to see if anything came up


15 posted on 05/08/2014 1:07:57 PM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

They used the Channel because they knew there would be tugboats nearby


16 posted on 05/08/2014 1:09:04 PM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: AU72

And bomber flights off the coast of California.


17 posted on 05/08/2014 1:09:59 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: MeshugeMikey

If Europe didn’t want them to take the luxury route, they wouldn’t go that way.


18 posted on 05/08/2014 1:14:36 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: AppyPappy

Yes, +1.

Apparantly Peter the Great doesn’t go to sea without tugs/salvage ships following along at a discrete distance.


19 posted on 05/08/2014 1:17:12 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: 2harddrive

and obama’s holed up..... sweating out the revelations soon to be made public at the Big Benghazi Picnic!


20 posted on 05/08/2014 1:19:24 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: 2harddrive

and obama’s holed up..... sweating out the revelations soon to be made public at the Big Benghazi Picnic!


21 posted on 05/08/2014 1:19:25 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: HereInTheHeartland
A direct result of electing a weak President in 2008. There will be more of this.

Then why did they do this under Reagan, Bush, Clinton, and Bush? This is normal, happens all the time.
22 posted on 05/08/2014 1:29:05 PM PDT by TexasGunLover ("Either you're with us or you're with the terrorists."-- President George W. Bush)
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To: MeshugeMikey

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoKCSKIra88


23 posted on 05/08/2014 1:56:17 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: MeshugeMikey

I don’t know about naval tech, but the destroyer looks like it could take that carrier down without breaking a sweat. Do I see smoke coming from that carrier’s stack? What do they power that thing with... coal?


24 posted on 05/08/2014 2:04:52 PM PDT by PastorBooks
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To: PastorBooks

Goat Dung...purchased from Iran....from what I understand


25 posted on 05/08/2014 2:11:14 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: TexasGunLover

“This is normal, happens all the time.”

Ok not sure on that part directly what is normal for them. But they are doing a large amount of blustering and showing of force.
And invading sovereign nations!!


26 posted on 05/08/2014 2:35:52 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Obama lied; our healthcare died.)
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To: MeshugeMikey

“The Admiral Kuznetsov is conventionally powered by eight gas-fired boilers and four steam turbines, each producing 50,000 hp (37 MW), driving four shafts with fixed-pitch propellers. Her maximum speed is 29 knots (54 km/h), and her range at maximum speed is 3,800 miles (6,100 km). At 18 knots (33 km/h), her maximum range is 8,500 miles (13,700 km).”

seems slow for a fleet carrier and smoky for a gas fired powerplant. maybe they should invest in a Power Commander.


27 posted on 05/08/2014 2:36:16 PM PDT by RitchieAprile
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To: RitchieAprile

You make the fun of comdrade pootin’s pride and joyski?


28 posted on 05/08/2014 2:37:08 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: RitchieAprile

After a 5-month deployment those boilers are encrusted inside and I bet “Kuznetsov” isn’t capable of anything near that “29-Knot” top speed.

OTOH, she may have spent most of her “cruise” tied up at a Syrian dock.


29 posted on 05/08/2014 2:43:10 PM PDT by Tallguy
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To: Tallguy

““Kuznetsov” isn’t capable of anything near that “29-Knot” top speed.”

Would it help if they got out and pushed?

:-)


30 posted on 05/08/2014 3:39:10 PM PDT by PastorBooks
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To: MeshugeMikey

Cripes! Didn’t Titanic have a 29 knot top speed?


31 posted on 05/08/2014 5:15:50 PM PDT by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: RitchieAprile
seems slow for a fleet carrier and smoky for a gas fired powerplant.

She's not gas fired. Oil powered steam turbine.

32 posted on 05/08/2014 5:25:15 PM PDT by Lower Deck
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To: Lower Deck

I guess the Wiki lied.. they should swing by the dealership for a tuneup regardless.


33 posted on 05/08/2014 6:06:06 PM PDT by RitchieAprile
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To: MeshugeMikey

both russian big boys are out to play. peter the great is the flagship of the northern red banner fleet. i have him and kuznetsov in 1/350.


34 posted on 05/08/2014 7:30:18 PM PDT by bravo whiskey (We should not fear our government. Our government should fear us.)
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To: Repeal The 17th

Have you noticed what Putin’s been up to lately?


35 posted on 05/09/2014 3:28:43 AM PDT by jmacusa
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To: Tallguy

Sailing up the Thames is home for the Russkies?


36 posted on 05/09/2014 3:29:48 AM PDT by jmacusa
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Yeah, right?


37 posted on 05/09/2014 3:31:26 AM PDT by jmacusa
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To: jmacusa

From the article:
“Naval sources said it was not unusual
for Russian warships to pass through the channel
and the Kuznetsov was also escorted past British waters
on its way out in December
when it passed Scotland heading south.”


38 posted on 05/09/2014 3:58:05 AM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: jmacusa

“Sailing up the Thames is home for the Russkies?”

2 basic routes:

1) Around Ireland and through the GIUK Gap (the long way), or

2) Up the English Channel.

Same choice the Spanish Armada had. And either way you’re going to pull a lot of attention from the RN & RAF.


39 posted on 05/09/2014 6:34:49 AM PDT by Tallguy
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To: Tallguy

. ...’’either way you’re going to pull a lot of attention from the RN and RAF.’’Yeah no doubt. That’s way Putin wants the Ukraine so much, the elusive ‘’warm water port’’ the Russkies have always wanted.


40 posted on 05/09/2014 1:03:24 PM PDT by jmacusa
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

A loose WWI or WWII mine could create quite a
problem...


41 posted on 05/09/2014 1:06:15 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: jmacusa

Making no apologies for Putin’s actions in the Ukraine, but the Crimea was taken by Imperial Russia from the Turks in the 1850’s. It was part of Russia-proper until Khrushchev decided it was good politics to ‘offer’ the region to the Ukraine SSR (then a part of the Soviet Union).

So the Crimea was directly a part of Russia for 100 years and for all of that time was host to some important naval installations.

Even after the Ukraine ‘broke-away’ from Russia they shared a naval base near Sevastopol. So in a sense the Russians have had a “warm-water port” for 160 years.


42 posted on 05/09/2014 1:32:55 PM PDT by Tallguy
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