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Trooper wounded in I-70 shootout in critical condition; suspect shot dead ID'd as convicted killer
Denver Channel ^ | May 8, 2014 | John Ferrugia

Posted on 05/08/2014 6:00:02 PM PDT by george76

DOTSERO, Colo. - A state trooper was rushed to the hospital after he was shot while helping a driver who was stopped on the side of Interstate 70 near Dotsero.

The Colorado State Patrol identified the trooper as Eugene Hofacker, a 6-year veteran, who is listed in critical but stable condition at Valley View Hospital in Glenwood Springs. Hofacker is assigned to the Vail Troop Office.

Garfield County Sheriff Lou Vallario said the trooper was shot as he approached the driver-side window of the suspect's car. A second trooper returned fire and killed the suspect.

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the dead man is Thomas Ornelas, 41, who has a long criminal history that dates back to a murder he committed as a teenager. His history also includes several parole violations, repeated violations of a protection order, resisting arrest and attempted murder.

Ornelas has six other aliases listed on his record with the Colorado Bureau of Investigation. One of the aliases includes the first name, "Sick."

He was awaiting trial on attempted murder and other charges in Mesa County in September.

Ornelas' criminal record begins in 1991, when he was still 17. The CBI record shows the teenager was convicted as an adult of homicide and sent to the Territorial Correctional Facility in Canon City.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: attemptedmurder; convictedkiller; criminal; homicide; killer; murder; murderer
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1 posted on 05/08/2014 6:00:02 PM PDT by george76
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To: george76
Thomas Ornelas, 41, who has a long criminal history that dates back to a murder he committed as a teenager.

Well, he'll kill no one again! Prayers for the trooper.

2 posted on 05/08/2014 6:06:28 PM PDT by Bushbacker1 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: george76

That’s why the death penalty is so effective .... there are no repeat offenders .... should have fried him at 17 yrs old.


3 posted on 05/08/2014 6:07:49 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Progressives (communists) lie because their expectations and promises never match reality.)
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To: george76

Maybe the many cop haters here at FR will chime in with “is the dog OK?” or “what,did the donut shop refuse his credit card?” or “couldn’t he have picked on someone his own size?”


4 posted on 05/08/2014 6:08:45 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Stalin Blamed The Kulaks,Obama Blames The Tea Party)
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To: Bushbacker1

Catch and release does not work for future victims ; repeat felons like liberal judges / laws and weak parole boards.


5 posted on 05/08/2014 6:08:59 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

Who was the liberal who set him free?


6 posted on 05/08/2014 6:09:52 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: george76
He was awaiting trial on attempted murder and other charges in Mesa County in September.

...and out on bail???

7 posted on 05/08/2014 6:26:31 PM PDT by null and void ( They don't think think they are above the law. They think they are the law.)
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To: Gay State Conservative
I HATE dogs and donuts! LIGhten up Francis photo: Lighten up, Francis francis.jpg
8 posted on 05/08/2014 6:27:45 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: Gay State Conservative
Maybe the many cop haters here at FR will chime in with “is the dog OK?”

I think a lot of Freepers, including myself, were once staunch defenders of the police. But that was some time ago when police behaved considerably better. If you don't think that many police are currently acting in a more belligerent and militaristic fashion, then you are not paying attention. Freepers don't 'hate' police. They hate jackbboots and power trip gestapo techniques that are increasingly being employed.

9 posted on 05/08/2014 6:27:58 PM PDT by Right Brother
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To: RetiredTexasVet

yup.

if we executed every murderous felon quicky like in old times, i’d be more for letting those that did their entire sentences have gun rights back.


10 posted on 05/08/2014 6:28:12 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Right Brother; Gay State Conservative
I think a lot of Freepers, including myself, were once staunch defenders of the police. But that was some time ago when police behaved considerably better. If you don't think that many police are currently acting in a more belligerent and militaristic fashion, then you are not paying attention. Freepers don't 'hate' police. They hate jackbboots and power trip gestapo techniques that are increasingly being employed.

I agree. I thought about making a very similar response to GSC but then thought, "Why bother? People like him/her, are going to believe what they want - just like a progressive."

11 posted on 05/08/2014 6:32:23 PM PDT by raybbr (Obamacare needs a death panel.)
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To: george76
but i bet the judge feels good about itself for being so fair/nonjudgmental by letting this POS back on the street...
12 posted on 05/08/2014 6:32:45 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: george76

I hope the trooper makes a full recovery. I wonder if that is the same hospital that “Doc Holiday” went to?


13 posted on 05/08/2014 6:33:46 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: Right Brother; Gay State Conservative

GSC, I’m interested in your response to what Right Brother said, as his views mirror my own.


14 posted on 05/08/2014 6:33:49 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Want to keep your doctor? Remove your Democrat Senator.)
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To: Parley Baer

All the more reason for the death penalty.


15 posted on 05/08/2014 6:35:31 PM PDT by DaveA37
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To: george76
One of the aliases includes the first name, "Sick."

Here's a new one, "Dead."

16 posted on 05/08/2014 6:42:14 PM PDT by Doomonyou (Let them eat Lead.)
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To: RetiredTexasVet

Yea, no repeat offenders, and this Trooper would still be alive.

Way to go liberals!


17 posted on 05/08/2014 6:42:15 PM PDT by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - a classical Christian approach to homeschool])
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To: Gay State Conservative

No Kidding! I’ve come across a few of them myself recently....quite a diversity of opinion here!


18 posted on 05/08/2014 6:43:12 PM PDT by NYAmerican
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To: Right Brother

Great reply. I wish I could say it that well. Where I live in N.J. Barney barely needs a bullet but all seven cops of which 3 are part time have all the bells & whistles. And our citizens are still better armed than the cops are.


19 posted on 05/08/2014 6:49:30 PM PDT by certrtwngnut (')
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To: Gay State Conservative

I concur with what Right Brother wrote on post #9. The police today are not the LEOs that I grew up with and once admired. They are becoming increasingly militarized and their ranks are polluted with men (it’s usually men) with out-sized egos and the desire to control—rather than protect—the citizenry.

You can like them if you wish. I don’t.


20 posted on 05/08/2014 6:51:09 PM PDT by OldPossum ("It's" is the contraction of "it" and "is"; think about ITS implications.)
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To: Right Brother

I should have included you in my #20 post to Gay State Conservative. It was an oversight.


21 posted on 05/08/2014 6:52:36 PM PDT by OldPossum ("It's" is the contraction of "it" and "is"; think about ITS implications.)
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To: george76

Prayers for a speedy recovery for Officer Hockafer.


22 posted on 05/08/2014 6:56:00 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Gay State Conservative

As crappy as the cops are these days, state troopers often aren’t part of that crowd. You don’t see them doing the kinds of thing that you see out of say, the LAPD. They generally are more professional with more common sense and restraint.


23 posted on 05/08/2014 7:01:05 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead...)
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To: george76

Underscores the value of 2-man patrol cars and of following the basic training rule “no call is routine.”


24 posted on 05/08/2014 7:12:12 PM PDT by lightman (O Lord, save Thy people and bless Thine inheritance, giving to Thy Church vict'ry o'er Her enemies.)
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To: Balding_Eagle
OK...condensing a 10,000 word explanation down to a few lines:

1) I'd bet the clothes on my back that,apart from Freepers who've served in combat,I've see more death...more VIOLENT death...than anyone on FR.Having worked for 20 years in the ER of a major hospital located in a major city makes me willing to make that claim.I've seen more murder victims than most Freepers have had hot dinners.I've even seen a couple of murdered cops.When dealing with potentially violent situations I'm willing to give cops the same "benefit of the doubt" that I'm willing to give one of our soldiers,sailors,airmen and Marines while serving in combat.Just as surely as there are US servicemen who are "bad apples",so too there are some cops who are bad apples.

Although I never served in combat..or anywhere near it..I firmly believe that Oliver Stone was full of bleep when he clearly implied in Platoon that it was SOP for our guys in Vietnam to rape and murder innocent civilians just for laughs.And more recently we had the senior Senator from Chappaquiddick making the same accusations regarding our guys in Iraq and Afghanistan.He,too,was a lying sack of ****.And I'm equally convinced that the many Freepers who believe that it's SOP for cops to murder dogs...and people...just for thrills are full of bleep.

25 posted on 05/08/2014 7:16:04 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Stalin Blamed The Kulaks,Obama Blames The Tea Party)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Now that IS gay!


26 posted on 05/08/2014 7:20:59 PM PDT by BatGuano (You don't think I'd go into combat with loose change in my pocket, do ya?)
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To: Right Brother
I think a lot of Freepers, including myself, were once staunch defenders of the police. But that was some time ago...

Up until 14 years ago i had complete trust in law enforcement and a profound respect for police officers. That was until I was framed by a corrupt cop and justice of the peace. I will never trust any of them ever again.

27 posted on 05/08/2014 7:27:00 PM PDT by immadashell (The inmates are running the asylum.)
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To: raybbr

“I agree. I thought about making a very similar response to GSC but then thought, “Why bother? People like him/her, are going to believe what they want - just like a progressive.”

You were reading my mind! Like a lot of things today, good LEOs have to bear the brunt of the “failings” of their “jackbooted fellow officers.” Hope that the trooper makes a full recovery. No one should be “cheering” this kind of wanton crime.


28 posted on 05/08/2014 7:36:11 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: Balding_Eagle
...as his views mirror my own.

Same here. Well said Right Brother.

29 posted on 05/08/2014 7:41:20 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: null and void
He was awaiting trial on attempted murder and other charges in Mesa County in September.

...and out on bail???

Exactly. This guy had already been convicted of murder and, apparently, attempted murder:

The dead man is Thomas Ornelas, 41, who has a long criminal history that dates back to a murder he committed as a teenager. His history also includes several parole violations, repeated violations of a protection order, resisting arrest and attempted murder.

How on earth could he be released under such conditions?

Absurd. It almost seems as if there is a deliberate effort to sow excess mayhem in society. To what end? In order to get the People to surrender still more Freedoms?

It's sheer insanity.

30 posted on 05/08/2014 7:42:27 PM PDT by sargon
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To: Free Vulcan
...state troopers often aren’t part of that crowd. You don’t see them doing the kinds of thing that you see out of say, the LAPD.

Interesting. I've read similar things here and this mirrors my own (admittedly limited) first-hand experience with LEOs. That is, city/town police tend to have the egos and control issues. I have seen them personally make some questionable calls on what to put in or leave out of official reports. (in one case nearly landing a friend of mine in jail) County sheriff's deputies OTOH have been professional, courteous and confident without being on a power trip. The several I've met I wouldn't mind hanging out with.

31 posted on 05/08/2014 7:47:14 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: george76
Think this is the guy


32 posted on 05/08/2014 7:49:41 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Melowese Richardson - Democrat Vote Fraud Expert)
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To: lightman
Underscores the value of 2-man patrol cars and of following the basic training rule “no call is routine.”

I'm sure the brass will tell you that 2-man patrol cars are too expensive.

But...I had a friend of mine who was a Reserve Deputy Sheriff out west back in the 1980's. He'd go out with a regular deputy maybe once a week on a volunteer basis, as the second man in the car.

The regular deputy would handle all citizen interaction while the reserve deputy would hang back and keep an eye on things. And, yes, he was trained and armed.

That was a decent idea. Why not bring it back?

33 posted on 05/08/2014 7:55:02 PM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: Gay State Conservative; Right Brother; ThunderSleeps

Although you avoided responding to the main assertion “that many police are currently acting in a more belligerent and militaristic fashion...............Freepers don’t ‘hate’ police”, I appreciate your response, including what you didn’t say.


34 posted on 05/08/2014 8:10:16 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Want to keep your doctor? Remove your Democrat Senator.)
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To: george76

I’ll bet the Dems couldn’t wait to get this boy back on the street, registered to vote and murdering people.


35 posted on 05/08/2014 8:10:56 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Obama's smidgens are coming home to roost.)
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To: Balding_Eagle
Although you avoided responding to the main assertion “that many police are currently acting in a more belligerent and militaristic fashion...

I refer you to my observation that there are *some* bad apples both in our Armed Forces and police forces.

*Some*...not *many*.

36 posted on 05/08/2014 8:14:27 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Stalin Blamed The Kulaks,Obama Blames The Tea Party)
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To: Leaning Right

Our sheriff ended reserve deputies because he didn’t want anyone but full-time officers.That was a couple decades ago,not sure what the current sheriff thinks. Insurance and lawyers have changed or eliminated a lot f things once familiar to Americans.

And for the record,I only hate BAD cops;that does include those who think themselves special,who shoot down old ladies and any person they see with a gun,and cowardly killers of dogs protective o their home or just runnng across teir own yard; and especially those willing to particpate in gun confiscations as happened in New Orleans.


37 posted on 05/08/2014 8:18:06 PM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: Gay State Conservative

The information on the bad apples in law enforcement indicates that relative to, say a decade ago, the proper description of the todays number is many, not some.

Many is not all, or even most.


38 posted on 05/08/2014 8:22:31 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Want to keep your doctor? Remove your Democrat Senator.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Now if only all the good cops,military,and government employees would stop covering for ,or being intimidatd by, the bad ones it would be just all fine.

But he good cops very rarely denounce the bad ones.

In this instance the bad ones are the judges and lawyers who let the dead perp out on bail.And further,the responsibilty should lie with all those who agitated and saw to it the legal system is so lenient with violent criminals and murderers.

Hope the trooper makes a full recovery.


39 posted on 05/08/2014 8:27:24 PM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: george76
the dead man is Thomas Ornelas, 41, who has a long criminal history that dates back to a murder he committed as a teenager. His history also includes several parole violations, repeated violations of a protection order, resisting arrest and attempted murder. ... He was awaiting trial on attempted murder and other charges in Mesa County in September.

Sheesh! What does it take to get locked up for good? Glad that piece of trash is dead now.

40 posted on 05/08/2014 8:52:42 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: Gay State Conservative; Balding_Eagle; Right Brother

That was really disjointed and evasive.

None of that had zip to do with what the man said in #9


41 posted on 05/08/2014 9:20:43 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Most stories I see here are cops acting retarded. This case they were doing something normal and they reacted properly.

I hope the trooper makes a full recovery.


42 posted on 05/08/2014 9:21:25 PM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: ForYourChildren

He is still alive according to the article. Critical but stable condition.


43 posted on 05/08/2014 9:22:43 PM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: Gay State Conservative

I learned long ago, be very aware and very suspect of wordy answers and responses to very basic questions and comments.

What you did or how much blood saw working in some hospital doesn’t mean zip, and has nothing to do with what happens down on the ground or in the streets.


44 posted on 05/08/2014 9:24:30 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Gay State Conservative

“And I’m equally convinced that the many Freepers who believe that it’s SOP for cops to murder dogs...and people...just for thrills are full of bleep”

What a refreshing change from the “jackbooted thugs” comments and jokes They are so tiring.

(Go Bruins!!!!!!!!!!):-)

.


45 posted on 05/08/2014 9:30:19 PM PDT by Mears
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To: Bulwyf

Yes. I pray that his recovery will be so rapid the physicians will be shocked.

From the photo the trooper appeared to be a young man, with much left to live for. He may yet make all the difference for some who cross paths with him in the future.

May God guide the man, holding him closely and reassuring him for the rest of his life (here on earth).

We were put here for a reason --- for many. Life is not a cosmic accident.

46 posted on 05/08/2014 9:37:05 PM PDT by BlueDragon
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To: BlueDragon

You’re absolutely right, God has a plan for each and every one of us, it’s up to us if we listen, and even if we don’t, he has ways of putting us back on track.


47 posted on 05/08/2014 9:50:24 PM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: Leaning Right
Why not bring it back?

Police unions would have not part of that.

48 posted on 05/09/2014 12:16:54 AM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy (The bill was the subject of a truly awe-inspiring tsunami of poorly informed indignation. Rich Lowry)
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To: OldPossum

. The police today are not the LEOs that I grew up with and once admired.
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True BUT the cops we grew up with in the 50/60/70’s were, for the most part VETS.

I think our troubles began - in many ways - when it was deemed ‘we’ weren’t allowed to stop people from stealing our property.
Then the standards had to be ‘lowered’ to accommodate females and the 95 pound weaklings - who were widely recruited because ‘they’ started making college course etc mandatory.

Then as the Civilians started taking control of PD’s the Chiefs weren’t coming up the ranks, they were going outside the Departments, which cause further problems.

Then the advent of SWAT teams and tactical units just kept piling on.

Back in ‘our’ day you never would have heard of 50 cops - armed to the teeth - with all sort of specialty vehicles - standing outside a school waiting orders to enter...

Right, Wrong or Indifferent, COPS in ‘our’ day would have stormed the building. Because they were Ex Military and that was their training PLUS they had real life experience from their Military Service.


49 posted on 05/09/2014 1:07:55 AM PDT by xrmusn ((6/98)"Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until they speak.".)
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To: xrmusn

Sorry, back then we also didn’t have Unions to contend with.


50 posted on 05/09/2014 1:10:38 AM PDT by xrmusn ((6/98)"Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until they speak.".)
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