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War Council in Moscow; CSTO Discusses Action ("Peacekeeping") in Ukraine
The Interpreter-(Ukraine live blog) ^ | 5-8-2014 | The Interpreter

Posted on 05/08/2014 6:01:27 PM PDT by tcrlaf

On Thursday evening, an informal meeting took place of of the Moscow-led Collective Treaty Security Organization, Lenta.ru reports.

President Vladimir Putin and his fellow heads of state from Belarus, Armenia, Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan visited a training session on management of the Russian armed forces. The situation in Ukraine was the main topic of the evening. Observers have speculated that Moscow could use the CSTO in some fashion to run a "peace-keeping operation" in the south of Ukraine with the support of allies in the Commonwealth of Independent States (CIS).

The Interpreter has translated an excerpt and will add the rest of the story as it is completed:

The visit of the presidents of Belarus, Armenia, Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan was not planned in advance. Vladimir Putin summoned Aleksandr Lukashenka, Serzh Sargsyan, Almazbek Atambayev and Emomali Rakhmon to Moscow for emergency talks, the main topic of which was the situation in Ukraine. The invitation had a military sub-text from the outset. The heads of state visited a training about management of the armed forces of Russia. The practice for deflecting and delivering a nuclear strike, in the words of the Russian Commander-in-Chief, went successfully. The Ukrainian question will be discussed today by Putin and in bilateral meetings with his colleagues.

The emergency invitation of the heads of state not accidentally virtually coincided with talks by the Russian president and the OSCE chairman Didier Burkhalter, during which the Ukrainian authorities in Kiev were proposed again to take the path of a peaceful settlement of the conflict. Moscow demanded from Kiev that it "cease the punitive operation," withdraw troops and sit down at the negotiation table with representatives of the south-east regions of Ukraine. Vladimir Putin essentially agreed to holding the presidential elections in the republic on 25 May, the legitimacy of which is being placed under doubt by Moscow. Simultaneously, Putin asked the militias of the self-proclaimed Donetsk and Lugansk "People's Republics" to postpone the conducting of a referendum. Putin's proposals were supported by the OSCE head.

Kiev did not wait long to respond. On the night of 8 May, preparation for a military operation in the east of the country was completed. All the cities of Slavyansk, Krasny Liman, and Mariupol were closed by checkpoints and military vehicles. Artillery, armored vehicles and infantry withdrew to their original positions. A practically total blockade of Odessa and Nikolayev was established, around which checkpoints were constructed and guarded by fighters in black uniforms without distinguishing insignia. In the cities of the south of Ukraine, a rotation of the law-enforcement organizations was made. According to Ukrainian sources, several thousand fighters have been brought in from Dnepropetrovsk and other regions of the country.

On the morning of 8 May, the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry called the proposals by Vladimir Putin 'the usual farce,' and Andrei Parubiy, secretary of the Ukrainian Council of National Security and Defense (SNBO) announced at a briefing that the "anti-terrorist operation" would be held regardless of the decisions of any saboteur or terrorist groups regarding the referendum." Acting Ukrainian President Oleksandr Turchynov rejected the possibility of dialogue.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: civilwar; putin; putinsbuttboys; russia; surrendermonkeys; ukraine
If true, this could be a HUGE development.

Meanwhile, Lavrov made a very public call "the immediate halt of army operation against people in Ukraine"

The link in the article to Lentu gets a Error404 response.

1 posted on 05/08/2014 6:01:27 PM PDT by tcrlaf
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To: tcrlaf

More from China’s Xinhua:

CSTO vows unity to avert Ukrainian tragedy
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/world/2014-05/09/c_126478919.htm


2 posted on 05/08/2014 6:07:45 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf

Lenta article translated:

Military Council in Moscow
Russia prepares Ukrainian peacekeeping operation
http://translate.google.com/translate?act=url&depth=1&hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http://lenta.ru/articles/2014/05/08/putinodkb/


3 posted on 05/08/2014 6:10:07 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf

From the Lenta article:
... the militia was able to “open” the border in the Luhansk region between Russia and Ukraine for free movement of people and vehicles.

In parallel, in the last week of the militia group, 20 people managed to destroy several Ukrainian radar thus depriving the Ukrainian army control over part of its airspace.”

First I have heard of this. Several tweets have noted that there have been “a few” attacks on Ukraine border outposts, from the Ukraine side, in recent days.


4 posted on 05/08/2014 6:14:05 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf
I have to say this Putin fellow is quite the tactician. He's running circles around the West's Security apparatus.

But I think he's making a strategic error in that eventually the West will wake up and he'll be over-extended.

Anyone notice the parallels to the US partition of Serbia?

PR genius.

5 posted on 05/08/2014 6:27:48 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: tcrlaf

Oh, and Moldova is a member of CIS and has that Transwhatever problem.


6 posted on 05/08/2014 6:28:59 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner
Also, with this source being in Kiev I find it particularly interesting that they mentioned Odessa is under blockade.

Blockade from what?

I am 100% certain that if Ukrainian armor rolls into Odessa the Russian armor will roll through the streets of Kiev.

7 posted on 05/08/2014 6:32:47 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: tcrlaf

A peace keeping force with troops from Russia, Belarus, Armenia, etc. Well that’s one way of skinning a cat. Sounds so much better than occupation forces.


8 posted on 05/08/2014 6:34:04 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: Mariner

“Anyone notice the parallels to the US partition of Serbia? PR genius.”

I have been noting that since this began.


9 posted on 05/08/2014 6:34:31 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: Mariner

“But I think he’s making a strategic error in that eventually the West will wake up and he’ll be over-extended.”

That assumes “The West” isn’t led by a pompous idiot, that is trained as an agitator. There is NOTHING in Obama’s background, or the backgrounds of those around him, like John Fraud, that has prepared them for a situation like this.

The usual demonization and Alinsky tactics aren’t working against Putin, who could care less about being called a racist in the US Media.


10 posted on 05/08/2014 6:39:54 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf
I was thinking of Europe, Germany, France and Poland specifically.

But then Germany seems to have lost its pride.

11 posted on 05/08/2014 6:47:16 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

“But then Germany seems to have lost its pride.”

The enviro nut Greens forced Germany to tie its economic future to Russian gas.

Liberalism is cute until someone steps up to take advantage of your own stupidity.


12 posted on 05/08/2014 7:18:58 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: Mariner

“But I think he’s making a strategic error in that eventually the West will wake up and he’ll be over-extended.”

We are in same boat. We have drawn down European forces for decades. To reestablish, we will have to abandon Iraq, Afghanistan, Asia, etc. None of which will go well.

Just for us to meet his new aircraft & ship maneuvers, it will cost us billions that we don’t have. That doesn’t even take into account Shinseki’s restructuring our military to fight small unarmored insurgent forces.

Also all of our equipment in Afghanistan must travel thru unsafe routes in Pakistan or Russian territory to get out.

Anyone think retiring the A-10s was a little hasty?


13 posted on 05/08/2014 8:04:24 PM PDT by FreeInWV (Have you had enough change yet?)
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To: tcrlaf

It would be but Kiev isn’t interested as i see it. They don’t care how many people are killed in this...they have an agenda which overrides anything to do with Russia other than fight....and that using the people of Ukraine to pull that off.

This is all taking on the very same actions and happenings as was seen in Kiev’s protests....fire everywhere...burning tires...blockades...and yet the Kiev Government is sending their military to kill these people...yet the Maidan insisted the Gov, then, not use guns or armorment on their protesters. Even though police were being set on fire and being shot at.

Those currently in Kiev government are NOT going to yield as they consolidate their power...and this without representation of the Russian community. How can they say they want an election but beat up the Candidates representing the Russian populace?


14 posted on 05/08/2014 8:13:40 PM PDT by caww
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15 posted on 05/08/2014 8:36:03 PM PDT by hubel458
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To: tcrlaf
"The enviro nut Greens forced Germany to tie its economic future to Russian gas."

Well, after all gas is cleaner than nukes or coal!

Germany once dominated the European coal industry.

16 posted on 05/08/2014 8:38:55 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: caww

quote-fire everywhere...burning tires...blockades

Most of that is from little green men terrorists
and their terrorist supporters...

When they can’t hold on to a blockade they set tires
on fire as they run away, makes beautiful pr pictures...


17 posted on 05/08/2014 8:42:09 PM PDT by hubel458
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To: tcrlaf

18 posted on 05/08/2014 8:48:24 PM PDT by hubel458
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To: hubel458; tcrlaf; PieterCasparzen; no-to-illegals

....”Samantha Power’s brazen hypocrisy:
The media swallows U.S. propaganda whole. Here’s the truth about Ukraine — and what it shows about American power”....

Amazingly even Salon is getting it....who’d of thought they’d finally see the truth in Ukraine....so you might want to consider reading this...might change your mind on what you ‘want’ to see in Ukraine to what ‘IS’ happening in Ukraine.

I don’t agree with it all...but Salon has uncovered enough of the lies the media is feeding this nation not only concerning Ukraine but the US involvement in what’s happening there.

http://www.salon.com/2014/05/07/samantha_powers_brazen_hypocrisy_media_swallows_propaganda_but_heres_the_truth_about_ukraine/


19 posted on 05/08/2014 9:41:23 PM PDT by caww
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To: hubel458

Wrong...the anti-kiev protesters are now setting tire fires when they know the Kiev army is approaching, in order to keep them away from their communities....the same Kiev did to keep the police away.

But you’ll believe what ‘you want’ instead of what’s factually being reported from the ground...and that no matter what evidence is shows the obvious.


20 posted on 05/08/2014 9:45:41 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww

Sure they are hoping it will keep authorities away from
them, but the fires burn out, and air got polluted,
and terrorists are still surrounded, and when 25th
comes around they can go vote.. or pout,burn tires, piss
and moan, terrorize... trying to fulfill Putlers desire
to make May 25Th election irrelevent..


21 posted on 05/08/2014 10:26:03 PM PDT by hubel458
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To: caww

Thanks caww.

Shhh, don’t mention ruling financial elites, international banking, banking families, etc. ;)

Interesting Antony Sutton interviews on youtube regarding international financial elites backing of USSR.

Cheers.


22 posted on 05/09/2014 1:40:44 AM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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